old3bob Posted April 19 We've heard a thousand things about enlightenment and related teachings but we haven't or seldom hear about the end of the cosmic cycle and what happens with all beings then? (although the historic Buddha mentioned it in a way or in passing to Ananda) So if all beings return to the great Tao, ready or not, at the end of the cosmic cycle then all beings will be enlightened per that returning ... (before it begins again) What does your teachings or system say about this? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dwai Posted April 19 6 hours ago, old3bob said: all beings will be enlightened per that returning ... all beings are already enlightened - they just haven’t realized it yet 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
old3bob Posted April 19 (edited) 2 hours ago, dwai said: all beings are already enlightened - they just haven’t realized it yet ok, we have heard that many a time which does not take into account evolution of the soul, (although and granted the Self, which could be said to be the Soul of the soul does not evolve) anyway we could say all beings will realize such by the end of the cosmic cycle, ready or not. Edited April 19 by old3bob Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dwai Posted April 19 2 hours ago, old3bob said: ok, we have heard that many a time which does not take into account evolution of the soul, (although and granted the Self, which could be said to be the Soul of the soul does not evolve) anyway we could say all beings will realize such by the end of the cosmic cycle, ready or not. What soul? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
old3bob Posted April 20 6 hours ago, dwai said: What soul? the one some haven't realized yet Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
old3bob Posted May 9 (edited) On 4/19/2024 at 10:37 AM, dwai said: all beings are already enlightened - they just haven’t realized it yet My wording would be that the Self in all beings was, is, and always will be enlightened and realizes same, as for or while the conditioned earthly, astral and casual forms of beings veiled with those identities are not the eternal, unchanging Self, thus only the Self knows the Self by the Self, since our earthly, astral and casual identities can not reach it or realize it and remain so. (in such a timeless moment) Edited May 9 by old3bob Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sanity Check Posted May 9 (edited) Christianity says there will be a harvest: Quote And another angel came out of the temple, crying out with a loud voice to Him who sat on the cloud, “Put in your sickle and reap, for the hour to reap has come, because the harvest of the earth is ripe.” -Revelation 14:15 Scary. Edited May 9 by Sanity Check Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
old3bob Posted May 9 2 hours ago, Sanity Check said: Christianity says there will be a harvest: Scary. that applies to realms and beings karmically bound to those realms, not to the Self which is in no way bound. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
