Apech Posted April 23 3 hours ago, S:C said: First questions first: Are the fruits on the cards of the high priestess pomegranates? Yes 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Apech Posted April 23 3 hours ago, S:C said: How can there be any deviance from the principle (the dao part) anyhow? , ”when good and bad arise the Dao is destroyed” quote from I would have to look it up. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
S:C Posted April 23 (edited) 1 hour ago, Apech said: , ”when good and bad arise the Dao is destroyed” quote from I would have to look it up. here you go, cat https://www.taoistic.com/taoteching-laotzu/taoteching-38.htm Edited April 23 by S:C 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Apech Posted April 23 1 hour ago, S:C said: here you go, cat https://www.taoistic.com/taoteching-laotzu/taoteching-38.htm Am I cat now? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
S:C Posted April 23 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Apech said: Am I cat now? Are you not? Luminous blob? I am confused. Edited April 23 by S:C Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nungali Posted April 23 8 hours ago, S:C said: How can there be any deviance from the principle (the dao part) anyhow? I am not really understanding this question. Can you ask it again using different words . I dont know what you mean by 'deviance from the principle ' , its like you are asking how yin and yang can 'deviate' from dao . ( if you are , consider n+ + n- = 0 . ) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nungali Posted April 23 8 hours ago, S:C said: Are all three pillars ‚humane‘? (As in residing in a human spirit?) Considering they are part of the Tree of Life , it is considered to permeate all things . 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nungali Posted April 23 8 hours ago, S:C said: It would seem that the differentiation between ‚four worlds‘ is arbitrary Not at all , according to kabbalah . But it might take some study of the subject before one sees this . and not necessarily a consequence of the diagramm. Not understanding again . The diagram is 'a consequence' of a teaching and a system , the system was not developed from the diagram . Why are several spheres a world? Because some of those worlds are 'higher' and 'pure' and some are a combination of energies . We have to remember it is 'worlds' . We could say Dao is a 'world' ( level ) , yin and yang are a world and the 10,000 things are a world . Here , 'worlds' are a 'level of existence or conceptions . Is this intuitive or experiential gnowledge for you? The experiential part came later as a confirmation of learnt theory . After a while it transforms to 'intuitive' * and that is when the benefits of such an outlook become apparent . * intuition, it has been shown, is actually fueled by experience and learning . After some time it beds in and knowledge and solutions seem to arise 'intuitively' without conscious mentation . (Seems I‘d need to take a look at that book of yours, bes! Seems very complex.) 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nungali Posted April 23 9 hours ago, blue eyed snake said: scared cow Of course , with me having no spiritual pride , all my cows feel safe and secure Oh ! ... errrr ..... ooops ! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nungali Posted April 23 9 hours ago, S:C said: What’s got the poor cow got to do with it? After the posting of the emoji Tree of Life , she is worried she might not be taken seriously anymore . Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
blue eyed snake Posted April 23 i thought you're the guy trying to balance these are dead, not happily sleeping after consuming to much apples or something Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nungali Posted April 23 (edited) 9 hours ago, S:C said: Thanks, that’s probably the most helpful answer. I‘m also not sure what is kabbalistic ‘tradition’ and what is nungalis interpretation here… In the hermetic tradition I see it as (mainly ) two fold ; the descent and rising through the spheres ( see the two previous links I made on that ) and the benefits one gets from the perception of relationships between things as learnt in the 'table of correspondences * - which is a list of the details of the basic concepts and how they relate to and interact with each other . Hide contents @Nungali (always knew you were very fond of neptune… but to put him on the top? Wouldn’t he get trouble with jupiter and don’t forget the sun…) Obscure . Is this a quote ? It seems a response to something , without that original 'something' I cant be sure what it is referring to .... it might be referring to my personal system I developed , but that does not have Neptune at the top Whats this Neptune at the top business ? I also doubt the gender is 'he' ; Neptune is feminine (on the tree not as a Greek God ) I dont know what 'in trouble with Jupiter ' means ( Jupiter is 'Jove' or Zeus , the 'Boss God ' ? ) and the term 'forget ' relating to the Sun ???? . I suppose that means the writer thought the Sun should be 'on top' - dont know why , the Sun is usually attributed to the center ( solar system , in the body - heart , and on Tree of Life . ) Edited April 23 by Nungali Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nungali Posted April 23 13 minutes ago, blue eyed snake said: i thought you're the guy trying to balance these are dead, not happily sleeping after consuming to much apples or something Sorry , bad joke ; No matter how well you look after your cows ..... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dorrigo,_New_South_Wales#History 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
S:C Posted April 24 Thank you for explaining your point of view, @Nungali! I guess I understand you better now. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Apech Posted April 24 14 hours ago, S:C said: Are you not? Luminous blob? I am confused. There used to be someone on here called Cat and I did not wish to usurp the title. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites