Thrice Daily Posted October 22 (edited) 21 minutes ago, old3bob said: the 'Sermon on the Mount' gets through to us but at such a heavy price!! (and that also gets co-opted for worldly power) Gets through to us - What doesn’t ? Let’s pray it changes… Walking back from the Sermon - I feel like we are at a point in human history akin to the time just before the invention of the wheel. Heavy Price - And the truth is we need to push with all our might… 💡 Co-opted indeed - The secret story told and entwined silently in our blood… Worldly Power… - our roles will reverse 🔄 Edited October 22 by Thrice Daily 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
blue eyed snake Posted October 22 (edited) 7 hours ago, Thrice Daily said: How’s the crime rate? we are veering into current events territory with that question, crime rate is about the european average for a comparison of robbery in european countries you can have a look here. https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/share-of-victims-who-reported-crime-to-the-police?country=~NLD Edited October 22 by blue eyed snake typo Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sir Darius the Clairvoyent Posted October 22 Good luck trying to draw a cautation between decline of christianity in Europe to increased crime. I somehow feel there might be other factors at play. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
blue eyed snake Posted October 22 7 hours ago, Thrice Daily said: Wise Words… nice big quote you created , the bigger the better uh I do not give a F about what the majority thinks, i prefer my own thoughts. a 1000 times zero is still zero yaknow furthermore, in the global North ( europe, america) the share of christians is diminishing. It's the growth in the global south that makes for the global growth, looks like they're gonna repeat the same mistake. some info to be found here https://www.pewresearch.org/religion/2011/12/19/global-christianity-exec/ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Apech Posted October 22 2 hours ago, old3bob said: seems that is mainly of the fanatical and violent dictatorial branch's quests for worldly power but not the Sufi... I met some Ishmaili Muslims once who were very pleasant - but then too are mystical Christians. The exceptions don't really make the rule. 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Thrice Daily Posted October 22 (edited) 2 hours ago, Sir Darius the Clairvoyent said: Good luck trying to draw a cautation between decline of christianity in Europe to increased crime. I somehow feel there might be other factors at play. It’s quite straight forward if you look at statistics of migrant unemployment and crime. Previously Christian countries have become more and more unsafe. Mainly due to migrant gangs , almost totally actually. (Culturally the West is Christian that’s where we get our basic values and human rights, a lot of people fail to notice this simple truth) The U.K. is like this. Sweden too is like this, so sad so many no go zones there are some places Police won’t even go, and the same is happening in America. (They would rather spit on a Bible in court than swear on it, if they can even speak English…) Tough criminals come from wore torn countries with different values. Not Christian. Last year Poland paid 1 million euro fine per day, because they refused to take the Migrant Quota from the EU. Germany recently admitted it cannot handle the migrants and they have destroyed the safety of their country, they have been recently trying to send them here to Poland… Poland currently has the lowest crime rate in Europe. I understand Croatia is quite similar in that regard… Check yourself before you wreck yourself. That’s the best border policy too… Edited October 22 by Thrice Daily Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Thrice Daily Posted October 22 2 hours ago, blue eyed snake said: nice big quote you created , the bigger the better uh I do not give a F about what the majority thinks, i prefer my own thoughts. a 1000 times zero is still zero yaknow furthermore, in the global North ( europe, america) the share of christians is diminishing. It's the growth in the global south that makes for the global growth, looks like they're gonna repeat the same mistake. some info to be found here https://www.pewresearch.org/religion/2011/12/19/global-christianity-exec/ The link you sent is 15 years old BES. Do you have a more up to date one to back up your theory? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Thrice Daily Posted October 22 (edited) 2 hours ago, blue eyed snake said: I do not give a F about what the majority thinks, i prefer my own thoughts. a 1000 times zero is still zero yaknow I” care what you think. I asked a question in my last post and wonder if you have an opinion. I’m most interested in what females have to say… And I agree, 1000 x 0 is zero What do you think we Westerners, should do about birth rates? Please Google first if you are not sure what’s going on with replacement rates country to country. Check South Korea first. You’ll understand what I’m getting at then… and yes it’s extremely relevant to Christianity… or lack there of… Edited October 22 by Thrice Daily Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
blue eyed snake Posted October 22 2 hours ago, Thrice Daily said: The link you sent is 15 years old BES. Do you have a more up to date one to back up your theory? said the guy telling us all kinds of things without substantiating them Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
blue eyed snake Posted October 22 2 hours ago, Thrice Daily said: What do you think we Westerners, should do about birth rates? not only in the global north but everywhere birth rates should be lowered, there are far too many humans on the globe. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Thrice Daily Posted October 22 Tell me and I will verify unless they were stated opinions.. if it’s a black and white fact I should have proof. I’m here to be contested. Please do so… I’ve asked a lot of questions though. I’d prefer to hear YOUR opinions to be honest… if you dare. Here’s one to get things going. What do you think about birth control? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
blue eyed snake Posted October 22 2 hours ago, Thrice Daily said: I” care what you think. I asked a question in my last post and wonder if you have an opinion. I’m most interested in what females have to say… so much posts, won't scroll back and search for it Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Thrice Daily Posted October 22 What do you think about birth control? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
blue eyed snake Posted October 22 24 minutes ago, Thrice Daily said: What do you think about birth control? Classed in the same category as the invention of fire in the home. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Thrice Daily Posted October 22 (edited) I don’t follow you, please elaborate? id like to understand your views, and opinions on the subject. Where it came from, where it is, where it might go. How it’s effected society. the good the bad and the ugly. You know your views on it all. I mean it’s highly unnatural right? Do you think it was a good idea to invent it? Edited October 22 by Thrice Daily Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
blue eyed snake Posted October 22 26 minutes ago, Thrice Daily said: I don’t follow you, please elaborate? id like to understand your views, and opinions on the subject. Where it came from, where it is, where it might go. How it’s effected society. the good the bad and the ugly. You know your views on it all. I mean it’s highly unnatural right? Do you think it was a good idea to invent it? i think anticonception is the best thing that has ever been invented for women simple as that 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Thrice Daily Posted October 22 Cool, what do you think about punishment for serious crime. Do you think death penalty should be a feature? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cobie Posted October 22 (edited) 14 hours ago, Thrice Daily said: How’s the crime rate? Like BES, I too am from the Netherlands. In the Netherlands suicide is now the leading cause of death for people under 30 . “ Suicide rates in youths have nearly tripled between the 1960s and 1980s.” “Religion lost its influence on Dutch politics between the 1960s and 1980s.” (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Youth_suicide) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religion_in_the_Netherlands#:~:text=Secularization%20in%20the%20Netherlands%20started,resulting%20in%20liberal%20Dutch%20policy) Edited October 22 by Cobie 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sir Darius the Clairvoyent Posted October 22 @Cobie but good lord, you cant just throw Out stats like that an assume it is due to christianity. Are you familiar with statistics at all? sorry, but this is just dumb 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Thrice Daily Posted October 22 29 minutes ago, Cobie said: Like BES, I too am from the Netherlands. In the Netherlands suicide is now the leading cause of death for people under 30 . “ Suicide rates in youths have nearly tripled between the 1960s and 1980s.” “Religion lost its influence on Dutch politics between the 1960s and 1980s.” (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Youth_suicide) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religion_in_the_Netherlands#:~:text=Secularization%20in%20the%20Netherlands%20started,resulting%20in%20liberal%20Dutch%20policy) No Shit Sherlock 🎩 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
blue eyed snake Posted October 22 (edited) 36 minutes ago, Cobie said: Like BES, I too am from the Netherlands. In the Netherlands suicide is now the leading cause of death for people under 30 . “ Suicide rates in youths have nearly tripled between the 1960s and 1980s.” “Religion lost its influence on Dutch politics between the 1960s and 1980s.” (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Youth_suicide) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religion_in_the_Netherlands#:~:text=Secularization%20in%20the%20Netherlands%20started,resulting%20in%20liberal%20Dutch%20policy) sigh bron: https://www.cbs.nl/nl-nl/longread/statistische-trends/2021/zelfdoding-in-nederland-een-overzicht-vanaf-1950?onepage=true 2.1.1 Amount of suicides among total population per 100.000 citizens plus the changes in religion Edited October 22 by blue eyed snake Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
blue eyed snake Posted October 22 59 minutes ago, Thrice Daily said: Cool, what do you think about punishment for serious crime. Do you think death penalty should be a feature? I've lost interest some posts before further, as I said before, you're veering sharply towards subjects that belong in the section current events. If you want to discuss things like this, that is the place to go. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Thrice Daily Posted October 22 42 minutes ago, Sir Darius the Clairvoyent said: @Cobie but good lord, you cant just throw Out stats like that an assume it is due to christianity. Are you familiar with statistics at all? sorry, but this is just dumb Really though, Sweden I hear is like 60% tax. 50% unemployment, so those working work for the other half. I heard it used to have the best education system, best healthcare system lots of free services, childcare. And over one year maternity and paternity leave so both Mom and Dad get paid to have all that time off with baby, wow that is incredible. Why would the birth rates drop. Among natives, such a shame. Incredible place to move though, especially is you want loads of kids and loads of money. interesting… @Cobie I’m putting back on my thinking 🎩 . Thankyou Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sir Darius the Clairvoyent Posted October 22 Just now, Thrice Daily said: Really though, Sweden I hear is like 60% tax. 50% unemployment, so those working work for the other half. I heard it used to have the best education system, best healthcare system lots of free services, childcare. And over one year maternity and paternity leave so both Mom and Dad get paid to have all that time off with baby, wow that is incredible. Why would the birth rates drop. Among natives, such a shame. Incredible place to move though, especially is you want loads of kids and loads of money. interesting… @Cobie I’m putting back on my thinking 🎩 . Thankyou I could answer you, but I wont. I think you and I both know why this is the case. Here we call it «svenske tilstander.» translates to swedish conditions. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Thrice Daily Posted October 22 (edited) 26 minutes ago, blue eyed snake said: I've lost interest some posts before further, as I said before, you're veering sharply towards subjects that belong in the section current events. If you want to discuss things like this, that is the place to go. I’m not BES. Birth control and abortion rights are currently the hottest topic in Christianity. Further more I don’t think your views line up too well with your ancient origins. Birth control and abortion has been a disaster for society. As well as other more modern phenomena that Christianity serves well to thwart… I really wish you’d think things thru sometimes when you reply , I really do. :/ Edited October 22 by Thrice Daily 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
