Psychotic behavior resulting from occult study.

[Nungali]

12 hours ago, stirling said:

 

The primary feelings that arise are fear and love. Anger is contraction, love is openness. Anger comes from fear. Anger naturally arises and passes until there is no resistance to the reality of things as they are, meaning that there is no further contraction.

 

Have you noticed that the symptoms of both relate to the effects of hot and cold ?  Anger makes us flush and go red, become tense and 'quake' .  Fear, like the cold , can make us shiver  ,  "freeze' or go 'floppy'  . 

 

[Nungali]

3 minutes ago, Cobie said:

Darius has been banned. 

 

 

 

 

That made you happy  ? 

[Cobie]

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Edited January 10 by Cobie

[Nungali]

Okay then .  I thought it was a shame the whole thing happened  .    I hoped my light - hearted  list was not taken the wrong way    ( I did include Vegemite,  after all ... who is seriously going to claim that as an accomplishment  ? )

 

 

[Cobie]

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Edited January 10 by Cobie

[Nungali]

You left something out .... Darius' grave beneath your feet .

 

 

 

[stirling]

1 hour ago, Nungali said:

Have you noticed that the symptoms of both relate to the effects of hot and cold ?  Anger makes us flush and go red, become tense and 'quake' .  Fear, like the cold , can make us shiver  ,  "freeze' or go 'floppy'  . 

 

I honestly hadn't really thought about it... but yes, true. Heat makes things expand, cold makes things close up. Huh.

[Cobie]

At OP, sorry for all the deleted posts; it was all off topic (re. Darius)

 

 

Edited January 11 by Cobie

[Cadcam]

I'm dwelling in the thought of how powerless we really are. Especially in light of the gods and their power. 

 

What will happen will happen.

[Maddie]

23 minutes ago, Cadcam said:

I'm dwelling in the thought of how powerless we really are. Especially in light of the gods and their power. 

 

What will happen will happen.

 

Control is an illusion anyways. Illusions cause suffering. 

[Jenn]

1 hour ago, Cadcam said:

I'm dwelling in the thought of how powerless we really are. Especially in light of the gods and their power. 

 

What will happen will happen.

 

If everything is a foregone conclusion anyway - doesn't that take all the pressure off? Decisions, dilemmas, guilt, worry, blame, failure, outcomes, choices, repercussions, shame, disappointment - if what will happen will happen regardless - you can just be yourself and do what you will. You can't ruin anything because you don't have that level of influence - the weight of the world is not yours to hold.

 

I found that realization very freeing. 

[Nungali]

2 hours ago, Cadcam said:

I'm dwelling in the thought of how powerless we really are. Especially in light of the gods and their power. 

 

What will happen will happen.

 

Yet, at times , tiny small actions or decisions can have immense consequences .

 

What if Buddha had not 'jumped the wall' ?  Jesus ran off from the soldiers ?  Cyrus had been a tyrant ?  You added 'one straw too many'?    The boy didnt put his finger in the dyke ? 

[Cobie]

15 minutes ago, Nungali said:

… The boy didnt put his finger in the dyke ? 

That never happened. You cannot stop a dike breaking that way (when they weaken, whole chunks disappear).

 

 

[Cobie]

25 minutes ago, Nungali said:

… You added 'one straw too many'?    The boy didnt put his finger in the dyke ? 

That neither ever happened, that’s an idiom.

 

 

[Cobie]

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What if Buddha had not 'jumped the wall' ?  Jesus ran off from the soldiers ?  Cyrus had been a tyrant ?  

 

Imo when the time is ripe, things happen. If it hadn’t been these particular guys, someone else would have taken on the mantle. 
 

 

Edited Saturday at 11:51 PM by Cobie

[Nungali]

24 minutes ago, Cobie said:

That neither ever happened, that’s an idiom.

 

 

 

'Thank' you Cobie .

 

I hope you can appreciate an example of process as opposed to factual history  ?

 

Otherwise known as nitpicking  ..... otherwise known as  'trying to fault a fault that has immaterial significance compared to to the other wealth of knowledge contained .

[Nungali]

19 minutes ago, Cobie said:

 

Imo when the time is ripe, things happen. If it hadn’t been these particular guys, someone else would have taken on the mantle. 
 

 

 

 and you comment to me that ...

 

" that never happened "         

[silent thunder]

On 1/10/2025 at 1:09 PM, Nungali said:

 

Have you noticed that the symptoms of both relate to the effects of hot and cold ?  Anger makes us flush and go red, become tense and 'quake' .  Fear, like the cold , can make us shiver  ,  "freeze' or go 'floppy'  . 

 

 

On 1/10/2025 at 2:43 PM, stirling said:

 

I honestly hadn't really thought about it... but yes, true. Heat makes things expand, cold makes things close up. Huh.

hmm, intriguing thought arose while reading this exchange... that Water is one (and only?) compound that responds with reversal to heat and cold as it expands when frozen and contracts when warmed.  As our bodies are comprised of so much water... i wonder how that may affect awareness/emotions.

 

i've always associated lovingness to a gentle warmth, or warming, while anger seems a flaring or consuming fire.  Fear does not seem particularly cooling for me, while it may paralyze which fits the freezing/cooling it also induces wild flight which counters that analogy.  Something in this peaks curiosity and also confusion.  Appreciate the bone to chew on this morning's meander.

[blue eyed snake]

8 hours ago, silent thunder said:

 

hmm, intriguing thought arose while reading this exchange... that Water is one (and only?) compound that responds with reversal to heat and cold as it expands when frozen and contracts when warmed.  As our bodies are comprised of so much water... i wonder how that may affect awareness/emotions.

 

i've always associated lovingness to a gentle warmth, or warming, while anger seems a flaring or consuming fire.  Fear does not seem particularly cooling for me, while it may paralyze which fits the freezing/cooling it also induces wild flight which counters that analogy.  Something in this peaks curiosity and also confusion.  Appreciate the bone to chew on this morning's meander.

 

maybe the anger is like an icecold block in the body, the venting of the anger is the heat.

 

[Nungali]

9 hours ago, silent thunder said:

 

hmm, intriguing thought arose while reading this exchange... that Water is one (and only?) compound that responds with reversal to heat and cold as it expands when frozen and contracts when warmed.  As our bodies are comprised of so much water... i wonder how that may affect awareness/emotions.

 

It 'deadens' them      

 

Spoiler

When water freezes in your body and expands it ruptures the cells  and you die .....  or it just kills off the extremities ; 'frostbite' .  I would include an image but its too disgusting .

 

i've always associated lovingness to a gentle warmth, or warming, while anger seems a flaring or consuming fire.  Fear does not seem particularly cooling for me, while it may paralyze which fits the freezing/cooling it also induces wild flight which counters that analogy.  Something in this peaks curiosity and also confusion.  Appreciate the bone to chew on this morning's meander.

 

I think its the 'shaking with fear '   and 'shivering'  that is behind that one .   Its to do with psychological drives being classified as 'hot or cold'  ...... but I cant remember the source .

 

Its also present in cognition ...... how often have I been 'in trouble' in relationships due to my 'cold cognition '   - I prefer to say that 'my Mercury is above my Mars / Venus base line .   

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hot_and_cold_cognition

 

 

 

Hot cognition   Vs   cold cognition ;

 

 

 

[Cadcam]

I guess what I mean to say is that no amount of mourning,  and no matter what you think, or understand,  will stop the worlds movement, or change the inevitable outcome of death. 

 

It's something I dwell on a lot these days

[Nungali]

 Death is the inevitable outcome of life   .... but who knows what the outcome of death  is ?

 

Outcome ;  "  That which comes out of, or follows from, something else; issue; result; consequence; upshot. '

 

- unless you meant  ' the inevitable outcome that is death .'   ?  No ... you cant change that , but you might be able to change what comes after that .