Sanity Check Posted August 11 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Testament_of_Solomon Summary Solomon's young friend is troubled by a demon Solomon prays and is given a magic ring to communicate with & control demons to help his friend Solomon communicates with and controls many demons which he forces to build his temple Solomon lusts after a woman who will only lie with him if he sacrifices crickets to false idols Solomon crushes the crickets, the spirit of God leaves him With the spirit of God departed, Solomon becomes a fool who demons and humans make sport of This is an interesting story. Although if a character in a story had a magic ring to communicate with supernatural forces, the most obvious questions would be to ask of the nature of God, heaven, angels, the afterlife, etc. All of Solomon's questions revolve around the nature, tendencies & descriptions of demons. Which could be viewed as unusual behavior for a believer in God. The concept of Solomon using demons to move massive rocks and pillars used to construct his temple is also interesting. Are there other alt biblical texts that are interesting? Someone recommended the book of enoch years back but I still haven't gotten around to reading it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nungali Posted August 16 On 8/11/2024 at 8:07 PM, Sanity Check said: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Testament_of_Solomon Summary Solomon's young friend is troubled by a demon Solomon prays and is given a magic ring to communicate with & control demons to help his friend Solomon communicates with and controls many demons which he forces to build his temple Solomon lusts after a woman who will only lie with him if he sacrifices crickets to false idols Solomon crushes the crickets, the spirit of God leaves him With the spirit of God departed, Solomon becomes a fool who demons and humans make sport of This is an interesting story. Although if a character in a story had a magic ring to communicate with supernatural forces, the most obvious questions would be to ask of the nature of God, heaven, angels, the afterlife, etc. Nah ... not for most . if you where to practice the holy magic of Abramelin , you would need isolation for months, supplications and prayers to God, fasting ... get enough 'hollies' built up so as to be able to direct the demons ... then what ? Then you can do the rest of it .... including make demon 'cause you to see a naked maiden ' Wow-ee ! A good lesson on WHY most undertake this path ..... and fail . All of Solomon's questions revolve around the nature, tendencies & descriptions of demons. Which could be viewed as unusual behavior for a believer in God. What about a monotheistic religion that curses such behavior having demons build its central temple ? More evidence to indicate that Judaism was something other than its later proponents made it out to be ! The concept of Solomon using demons to move massive rocks and pillars used to construct his temple is also interesting. Are there other alt biblical texts that are interesting? Sure ! Someone recommended the book of enoch years back but I still haven't gotten around to reading it. I shall post a list of them for you not to read later . 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sanity Check Posted August 18 (edited) Thanks to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Spaceships_of_Ezekiel I'm wondering if there could be an alien spacecraft tie in to claims of Solomon's Temple being constructed by "demons". Descriptions of angels in Ezekiel might resemble spaceship landings. If demons or fallen angels are similar in composition. It might be evidence for other historical landmarks like the giza pyramids being constructed by alienz. Edited August 18 by Sanity Check Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nungali Posted August 19 Well, they would be aliens that want a blood meat and kidney fat sacrifice then . Scary ! Oooops ! Wrong religion ... thats a 'false religion ' that one . Hang on a minute ..... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
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Nungali Posted August 19 Wait up .... didnt someone else start all this ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nungali Posted August 19 On 8/18/2024 at 7:26 PM, Sanity Check said: Thanks to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Spaceships_of_Ezekiel I'm wondering if there could be an alien spacecraft tie in to claims of Solomon's Temple being constructed by "demons". Descriptions of angels in Ezekiel might resemble spaceship landings. If demons or fallen angels are similar in composition. It might be evidence for other historical landmarks like the giza pyramids being constructed by alienz. Right, thats it ! Thats the limit. I am off to town for haircut . During the cold winter I let it grow and it has a mind of its own now ... looking very much like the above ! I gotta get rid of that ! Today is pensioner 'cheap clipper cut day ' ... a number 3 and a beeni methinks . . 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Thrice Daily Posted October 22 @Nungali, you get around a bit don’t you mate Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Thrice Daily Posted October 22 On 19/08/2024 at 4:04 PM, Sanity Check said: ALIENS… You must read the book of Enoch. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Daniel Posted November 7 On 8/18/2024 at 2:26 AM, Sanity Check said: Descriptions of angels in Ezekiel might resemble spaceship landings. If demons or fallen angels are similar in composition. It might be evidence for other historical landmarks like the giza pyramids being constructed by alienz. To be consistent with the story, all of these beings are creations of God. On 8/11/2024 at 3:07 AM, Sanity Check said: Although if a character in a story had a magic ring to communicate with supernatural forces, the most obvious questions would be to ask of the nature of God, heaven, angels, the afterlife, etc. All of Solomon's questions revolve around the nature, tendencies & descriptions of demons. Which could be viewed as unusual behavior for a believer in God. Asking about the nature of God, imo, would not make a good story. If it's simply stated, it sounds silly. If it's complete, the story will go on forever. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nungali Posted Friday at 10:48 PM Which TOTALLY avoids and tries to mask the issue of the question : All of Solomon's questions revolve around the nature, tendencies & descriptions of demons. Which could be viewed as unusual behavior for a believer in God. An answer , related to the question, can be ; He was very clearly and obviously a believer in things NOT condoned by Judaism . He practiced ritual magic . Now, we can look at where this strange and alien influence might have come from . It certainly wasnt from the preceding instructions given in how to behave, believe and worship God . Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nungali Posted Friday at 10:56 PM Now.. for the REAL answer to this dilemma (instead of yet another attempted diversion designed to get us not to look into it ) How (did ) the figure of Solomon, presented in the Bible as a wise and holy king favored by the Judeo-Christian God above all other men, came to be associated with black magic. According to the lore of magic, King Solomon was not only a master magician, he was the originator of some magics. Just as Zoroaster is viewed as the first magus and inventor of astrology, and Hermes Trismegistus the first alchemist, King Solomon is thought of as the originator of more than one form of magic, such as Ars notoria, the magical art of supernaturally achieving knowledge, and perhaps most importantly, Ars goetia, the ritual magic used to summon and bind demons and thus obtain favors from them. As we will see, though, much like those of Zoroaster and Hermes Trismegistus, the legend of King Solomon’s contributions to magic prove impossible to credit upon closer examination. This should be apparent even at the outset, as we see the legend evolve into folklore about King Solomon that rivals even the most fantastical of fairy tales. Anyone who attended Sunday school knows that the wisdom of King Solomon is legendary, and we already know that he is associated with magical artifacts, for he had possession of the Ark of the Covenant, for which he built a permanent Temple in Jerusalem. But according to the magical myth of Solomon, which developed out of numerous traditions in multiple cultures, God granted him supernatural wisdom like a superpower, including even the ability to talk with animals and to command spirits. From angels he received four magical stones, one that gave him power over the animal kingdom, one that empowered him to move heaven and earth, one that granted him dominion over all angels, and one that enabled him to bind even demons to his service. Like Thanos, he united these stones into a ring that made him the most powerful human of all time. He possessed also the philosopher’s stone, it was believed by others, and thus was able to create gold and riches. And with this great wealth and power, he built many wonders, forcing demons to complete the labor on his behalf. Not only did he build the Temple of Jerusalem in this manner, but also mythical constructions like the walled city of copper, a vast and secret city built to contain all his treasures and books of arcane wisdom. Even if the city were ever found, as it is said has happened before, no mortal can penetrate its walls without dying of laughter. How King Solomon himself might have visited this marvelous place is clear, though, for like a tale out of the Thousand and One Nights, he rode a flying carpet, carried aloft either by the demons at his command or by the winds that he could tame, depending on what source you read. In total, he was an ancient superhero, and his legend would provide the background for quite the adventure story. But where does this all come from? As mentioned, those who only know Solomon from the Bible know him only as the wise king, a writer of songs, lauded for his clever judgments, the builder of the First Temple, arrayed in riches and luxuries, and known for his sexual escapades. Unsurprisingly, there is no biblical basis for these fanciful legends, but perhaps more surprisingly, there is little scriptural support for any claims of Solomonic magic. To find the origin of this pseudohistory, we must revisit these scriptures, the earliest of sources recording the life of Solomon, and trace the evolution of his legend from there. read the rest at https://www.historicalblindness.com/blogandpodcast//the-key-to-the-secrets-of-king-solomon-an-encyclopedia-grimoria-volume including info that previously was attempted to be suppressed and diverted here on Daobums (except it didnt , its all still up for anyone to read ) , ie. ' This rewriting of Solomon’s life continued in the postexilic Second Temple period, when much “parabiblical literature” was produced that adapted the history and lessons of the Bible for Hellenistic sensibilities as the known world came under the influence of ancient Greece. Works such as The Wisdom of Ben Sira, Eupolemus’s work Concerning the Kings in Judea, and of course Flavius Josephus’s Jewish Antiquities etc . Share this post Link to post Share on other sites