Forgiveness

[Tommy]

15 hours ago, Lairg said:

 

When I see the energy of personal karma, if the karma is slight, it appears to me as a grey lunar arc from the left shoulder flowing outward and connecting back to the left hip.

 

When the person deals with the personal karma, immediately that arc is gone.

That is extraordinary to be able to see Karma on a person. I have never heard of this but am open to the idea. Guessing it would be strange to not see it on most people? Meaning there is ignorance and craving abounding.

[Lairg]

 

Usually I do such experiments with a real-time observer.   I have a couple of friends that can also see karmic energies

 

Mostly I am not interested in the karma of others but occasionally there is a spirit in human format that could do with some prompting to let go of past lives

 

 

[Tommy]

I am guessing that my ignorance of such things protect me from whatever goes bump in the night. But, whenever the conditions are right, those things that need to be worked out will arise and play out their dance to dispel their energies. And since I have no way to know these things, I go on in my ignorance as happy or sad as life wishes it to be.

[Lairg]

1 hour ago, Tommy said:

I am guessing that my ignorance of such things protect me

 

George Orwell might support that.  He stated "Ignorance is strength"

 

https://interestingliterature.com/2023/04/war-is-peace-freedom-is-slavery-ignorance-is-strength-meaning/

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[stirling]

On 3/12/2025 at 2:22 PM, Tommy said:

That is extraordinary to be able to see Karma on a person. I have never heard of this but am open to the idea. Guessing it would be strange to not see it on most people? Meaning there is ignorance and craving abounding.

 

Every time you meet someone guarded, or afraid you are seeing the karma on them. People with no karma are open and kind, unafraid of you injuring their "self". It isn't magic.

 

[Tommy]

2 hours ago, stirling said:

 

Every time you meet someone guarded, or afraid you are seeing the karma on them. People with no karma are open and kind, unafraid of you injuring their "self". It isn't magic.

 

Yeah, that is reading a person's outward behavior. Body language?  Lairg (from his post) seems to actually see the Karmic energy.

 

On 3/12/2025 at 2:07 AM, Lairg said:

 

When I see the energy of personal karma, if the karma is slight, it appears to me as a grey lunar arc from the left shoulder flowing outward and connecting back to the left hip.

 

When the person deals with the personal karma, immediately that arc is gone.

I do not discount what he believes he sees. I just think it is extra-ordinary to be able to see this Karmic energy. And you are right, one can see tell tale signs of Karma. Some call that body language??

 

Personally, I have never had extra ordinary experiences. No seeing beings or Goddesses or Guardians. No seeing people's auras. No seeing people's past or future. Although reading a person can be fairly easy to see if they are troubled or open and free. I once met a beautiful girl who said she could see worlds thru the walls. Full blown stories and adventures. And, I told her that she was an amazing person. Quite unique. No judgement. Because judgement would have shut down her story about herself. I liked that she was open enough to talk with me. So, I told her she was fascinating and wish we could talk more. Sorry, I never saw her again.

[stirling]

3 hours ago, Tommy said:

Yeah, that is reading a person's outward behavior. Body language?  Lairg (from his post) seems to actually see the Karmic energy.

 

It's possible. I have seen auras of various types, but it is far easier to understand people based on how open or closed they are to experience. Karma is simple: Attachment, aversion and our story about how/what/why that exists.

 

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I just think it is extra-ordinary to be able to see this Karmic energy. And you are right, one can see tell tale signs of Karma. Some call that body language??

 

It would be extraordinary to see that, yes, but it isn't that hard to see or understand once you realize what causes it. Karma is created by our constructed story about ourselves, and reality. Reality is just how things are, without our stories about how reality is. 

 

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Personally, I have never had extra ordinary experiences. No seeing beings or Goddesses or Guardians. No seeing people's auras. No seeing people's past or future. Although reading a person can be fairly easy to see if they are troubled or open and free. I once met a beautiful girl who said she could see worlds thru the walls. Full blown stories and adventures. And, I told her that she was an amazing person. Quite unique. No judgement. Because judgement would have shut down her story about herself. I liked that she was open enough to talk with me. So, I told her she was fascinating and wish we could talk more. Sorry, I never saw her again.

 

Reality is how we experience it. Someone else's stories about reality are not reality. What do you observe? What do you notice about people's behavior, and how they filter reality through their thoughts, beliefs and opinions? Reality is how things are without those thoughts, beliefs, and opinions. Our story is always a distortion - a delusion.

[Lairg]

12 minutes ago, stirling said:

Karma is created by our constructed story about ourselves, and reality.

 

As you will have observed biological creatures take in substances and excrete/exhale what is not wanted.  The excretions are then used by other creatures.

 

As below, so above.

 

All the substances of this galaxy have been used many times and therefore are qualified/contaminated by the intelligences that used them.

 

Humans reuse those same substances in their physical, emotional and mental bodies.  Thus the human personalities contain energies used/misused many times.  

 

Humans have to work hard to escape the galactic karma implicit in their personalities

 

 

[Tommy]

21 hours ago, stirling said:

Reality is how we experience it. Someone else's stories about reality are not reality. What do you observe? What do you notice about people's behavior, and how they filter reality through their thoughts, beliefs and opinions? Reality is how things are without those thoughts, beliefs, and opinions. Our story is always a distortion - a delusion.

Yes, all true. And as you have given to me, advice, before speaking to see if the words are in the light of compassion, kindness and helpful. So, it doesn't matter what I think of their stories or reality. It does matter that I remain attentive and compassionate and do no harm.

 

I understand that there is conventional truth and ultimate truth. And the critical eye you are pointing to. Since my experiences are of conventional truth, it is difficult to know what the wise choice of action is. So, I try to remain open and understanding when dealing with others. I do get caught up in my own reality, thoughts. Not always doing the right thing. But, I am trying to learn and grow. Thanks for the help.

[Mark Foote]

22 hours ago, Lairg said:

 

As below, so above.

 

 

 

They said to Him: Shall we then, being children,
enter the Kingdom? Jesus said to them:
When you make the two one, and
when you make the inner as the outer
and the outer as the inner and the above
as the below, and when
you make the male and the female into a single one,
so that the male will not be male and
the female (not) be female, when you make
eyes in the place of an eye, and a hand
in the place of a hand, and a foot in the place
of a foot, (and) an image in the place of an image,
then shall you enter [the Kingdom].

 

(The Gospel According to Thomas, coptic text established and translated by A. Guillaumont, H.-CH. Puech, G. Quispel, W. Till and Yassah ‘Abd Al Masih, pg 18-19 log. 22, ©1959 E. J. Brill; emphasis added)

 

 

So he abides fully conscious of what is behind and what is in front.
As (he is conscious of what is) in front, so behind: as behind, so in front;
as below, so above: as above, so below:
as by day, so by night: as by night, so by day.
Thus with wits alert, with wits unhampered, he cultivates his mind to brilliancy.
 

(Sanyutta-Nikaya 51.12; tr. Pali Text Society vol. V p 235; emphasis added; expanded, SN 51.20)

 

 

Edited Saturday at 04:50 AM by Mark Foote