Free energy transmission and UDT meditation

[Chang dao ling]

https://gurusiyagyoga.org/

https://the-comforter.org/

Method of Meditation https://gurusiyagyoga.org/method-of-meditation/

 Please check above websites. 

Edited September 6 by Chang dao ling

[-ꦥꦏ꧀ ꦱꦠꦿꦶꦪꦺꦴ-]

This is not Daoist, please post in the relevant section

[Giles]

3 hours ago, -ꦥꦏ꧀ ꦱꦠꦿꦶꦪꦺꦴ- said:

This is not Daoist, please post in the relevant section

 

@admin

 

This poster, @-ꦥꦏ꧀ ꦱꦠꦿꦶꦪꦺꦴ-, appears to be correct and although the subject of the OP could be viewed as including spontaneous qigong, it's roots appear to reside in the Nath tradition.

 

That being the case, please relocate this thread either to the General or to the Hindu subforums.

 

Thanks in anticipation.

 

🙏🏻

 

[Sahaja]

On 9/3/2024 at 1:58 AM, Chang dao ling said:

https://gurusiyagyoga.org/

https://the-comforter.org/

Method of Meditation https://gurusiyagyoga.org/method-of-meditation/

 Please check above websites. 

Seems like they are conflating relatively easy to achieve entry level qi gong experiences (zi fa gong) with much deeper, much harder to achieve shen gong  level outcomes (chakra opening and kundalini). However does have good zi fa gong pictures showing people grounding yang qi to the floor (head or back or hands or front torso to floor). 

[Chang dao ling]

19 minutes ago, Sahaja said:

showing people grounding yang qi to the floor

Can you please elaborate?

I also read in the website that regular meditation practice leads to samadhi ( absorption)

[Sahaja]

this is my understanding but I’m sure others know more. 
 

Zi fa gong or spontaneous movement  is generated by active energy that is released/arises (‘yang” qi) during energy related practices (mantra, mudra, breath practices, qi gong, hatha, etc). The body’s natural way of dealing with a temporary excess  of this active qi is to automatically seek to balance it with  receptive form energy (“yin” qi). The earth’s yin qi is used by the body to balance this active Yang qi. It’s analogous to electricity being grounded into the earth. Yang qi tends to rise in the body so the head and hands are often involved in this grounding to the earth’s yin energy in spontaneous movement episodes. The torso can also be involved to maximize this grounding.
 

This rising of energy to the head can lead to health issues if not managed, so it’s always good to close down well at the end of practice bringing this active energy back down. Through practices that build/strengthen the yin  energy center in the abdomen (Dan tian or kanda) one creates a controlling mechanism/repository for this active energy leading to less spontaneous activity as well as less exposure to issues from  active energy  rising to the head. Regardless still always a good practice to close down well to be on the safe side. 
 

this excess active energy also has many other manifestations than this seeking of grounding (speaking, shaking, dancing, forming hand mudras, etc,) all are the body/mind’s efforts to normalize and respond to this excess energy. They are akin to the body’s natural response to digesting food (belching and passing gas) and should be viewed similarly (politely ignored) so that people don’t overreact to the experiences generated. 
 

there are many types/levels of absorption - from the basic- soaking one’s full awareness into the body or into sound vibration during yoga or qi gong practice all the way up to the very advanced nirvikalpa samadhi. There is even a Sahaja samadhi - 😆. Different traditions use different names for seemingly related concepts.. My understanding is that meditation is a state one arrives at rather than something one does.

 

hope this is useful. 

Edited September 6 by Sahaja

[Chang dao ling]

11 hours ago, Sahaja said:

this is my understanding but I’m sure others know more. 
 

Zi fa gong or spontaneous movement  is generated by active energy that is released/arises (‘yang” qi) during energy related practices (mantra, mudra, breath practices, qi gong, hatha, etc). The body’s natural way of dealing with a temporary excess  of this active qi is to automatically seek to balance it with  receptive form energy (“yin” qi). The earth’s yin qi is used by the body to balance this active Yang qi. It’s analogous to electricity being grounded into the earth. Yang qi tends to rise in the body so the head and hands are often involved in this grounding to the earth’s yin energy in spontaneous movement episodes. The torso can also be involved to maximize this grounding.
 

This rising of energy to the head can lead to health issues if not managed, so it’s always good to close down well at the end of practice bringing this active energy back down. Through practices that build/strengthen the yin  energy center in the abdomen (Dan tian or kanda) one creates a controlling mechanism/repository for this active energy leading to less spontaneous activity as well as less exposure to issues from  active energy  rising to the head. Regardless still always a good practice to close down well to be on the safe side. 
 

this excess active energy also has many other manifestations than this seeking of grounding (speaking, shaking, dancing, forming hand mudras, etc,) all are the body/mind’s efforts to normalize and respond to this excess energy. They are akin to the body’s natural response to digesting food (belching and passing gas) and should be viewed similarly (politely ignored) so that people don’t overreact to the experiences generated. 
 

there are many types/levels of absorption - from the basic- soaking one’s full awareness into the body or into sound vibration during yoga or qi gong practice all the way up to the very advanced nirvikalpa samadhi. There is even a Sahaja samadhi - 😆. Different traditions use different names for seemingly related concepts.. My understanding is that meditation is a state one arrives at rather than something one does.

 

hope this is useful. 

Thanks 👍 

[Lukks]

On 03/09/2024 at 5:58 AM, Chang dao ling said:

https://gurusiyagyoga.org/

https://the-comforter.org/

Method of Meditation https://gurusiyagyoga.org/method-of-meditation/

 Please check above websites. 

Nice ones, thanks for sharing

[Chang dao ling]

15 minutes ago, Lukks said:

Nice ones, thanks for sharing

Welcome 🙂. Are you practicing?

[Lukks]

No, At moment I'm only doing SFQ, ZZ and Xuan Daoji's meditation😁

 

But I saved them for the future. I read the websites, everything, they seem very interesting and legit practices.

 

Edit:

I don't know why the words are changing in size, maybe because I'm on my phone haha

Edited September 24 by Lukks

[Chang dao ling]

34 minutes ago, Lukks said:

At moment I'm only doing SFQ, ZZ and Xuan Daoji's meditation

Wow nice. Which level in sfq ? Zz from lam Kam?

[Lukks]

9 hours ago, Chang dao ling said:

Wow nice. Which level in sfq ? Zz from lam Kam?

 

Level 1 is all you need for healing yourself in SFQ. I have level 2, the movements will also help to clear energy blockages but it's more focused on healing others, I did it a few times but I'm mainly on level 1. 

If I would start on SFQ today I would buy the 5 elements qigong, I heard people saying that it's an improved version of level 1.

 

Yes, ZZ from "The Way of Energy" book by Lam.

[Chang dao ling]

13 hours ago, Lukks said:

Level 1 is all you need for healing yourself in SFQ.

Are you practicing via online or in-person? Do you practicing LDT meditation in level 1? 

[Lukks]

9 hours ago, Chang dao ling said:

Are you practicing via online or in-person? Do you practicing LDT meditation in level 1? 

 

Online, you just need to learn the movements from the videos and then you practice on your own.

 

By LDT meditation what I understand is a practice where you sit comfortably and focus on your LDT, if that's what your referring to, the answer is no, as far as I know there's no LDT meditation in SFQ.

You focus on your LDT at the end of each session to bring the energy there, but that's all.

 

[Chang dao ling]

58 minutes ago, Lukks said:

By LDT meditation what I understand is a practice where you sit comfortably and focus on your LDT, if that's what your referring to, the answer is no, as far as I know there's no LDT meditation in SFQ.

You focus on your LDT at the end of each session to bring the energy there, but that's all.

 

Thanks for clarification 🙂