Free energy transmission and UDT meditation

[Chang dao ling]

https://gurusiyagyoga.org/

https://the-comforter.org/

Method of Meditation https://gurusiyagyoga.org/method-of-meditation/

 Please check above websites. 

Edited September 6 by Chang dao ling

[-ꦥꦏ꧀ ꦱꦠꦿꦶꦪꦺꦴ-]

This is not Daoist, please post in the relevant section

[Giles]

3 hours ago, -ꦥꦏ꧀ ꦱꦠꦿꦶꦪꦺꦴ- said:

This is not Daoist, please post in the relevant section

 

@admin

 

This poster, @-ꦥꦏ꧀ ꦱꦠꦿꦶꦪꦺꦴ-, appears to be correct and although the subject of the OP could be viewed as including spontaneous qigong, it's roots appear to reside in the Nath tradition.

 

That being the case, please relocate this thread either to the General or to the Hindu subforums.

 

Thanks in anticipation.

 

🙏🏻

 

[Sahaja]

On 9/3/2024 at 1:58 AM, Chang dao ling said:

https://gurusiyagyoga.org/

https://the-comforter.org/

Method of Meditation https://gurusiyagyoga.org/method-of-meditation/

 Please check above websites. 

Seems like they are conflating relatively easy to achieve entry level qi gong experiences (zi fa gong) with much deeper, much harder to achieve shen gong  level outcomes (chakra opening and kundalini). However does have good zi fa gong pictures showing people grounding yang qi to the floor (head or back or hands or front torso to floor). 

[Chang dao ling]

19 minutes ago, Sahaja said:

showing people grounding yang qi to the floor

Can you please elaborate?

I also read in the website that regular meditation practice leads to samadhi ( absorption)

[Sahaja]

this is my understanding but I’m sure others know more. 
 

Zi fa gong or spontaneous movement  is generated by active energy that is released/arises (‘yang” qi) during energy related practices (mantra, mudra, breath practices, qi gong, hatha, etc). The body’s natural way of dealing with a temporary excess  of this active qi is to automatically seek to balance it with  receptive form energy (“yin” qi). The earth’s yin qi is used by the body to balance this active Yang qi. It’s analogous to electricity being grounded into the earth. Yang qi tends to rise in the body so the head and hands are often involved in this grounding to the earth’s yin energy in spontaneous movement episodes. The torso can also be involved to maximize this grounding.
 

This rising of energy to the head can lead to health issues if not managed, so it’s always good to close down well at the end of practice bringing this active energy back down. Through practices that build/strengthen the yin  energy center in the abdomen (Dan tian or kanda) one creates a controlling mechanism/repository for this active energy leading to less spontaneous activity as well as less exposure to issues from  active energy  rising to the head. Regardless still always a good practice to close down well to be on the safe side. 
 

this excess active energy also has many other manifestations than this seeking of grounding (speaking, shaking, dancing, forming hand mudras, etc,) all are the body/mind’s efforts to normalize and respond to this excess energy. They are akin to the body’s natural response to digesting food (belching and passing gas) and should be viewed similarly (politely ignored) so that people don’t overreact to the experiences generated. 
 

there are many types/levels of absorption - from the basic- soaking one’s full awareness into the body or into sound vibration during yoga or qi gong practice all the way up to the very advanced nirvikalpa samadhi. There is even a Sahaja samadhi - 😆. Different traditions use different names for seemingly related concepts.. My understanding is that meditation is a state one arrives at rather than something one does.

 

hope this is useful. 

Edited September 6 by Sahaja

[Chang dao ling]

11 hours ago, Sahaja said:

this is my understanding but I’m sure others know more. 
 

Zi fa gong or spontaneous movement  is generated by active energy that is released/arises (‘yang” qi) during energy related practices (mantra, mudra, breath practices, qi gong, hatha, etc). The body’s natural way of dealing with a temporary excess  of this active qi is to automatically seek to balance it with  receptive form energy (“yin” qi). The earth’s yin qi is used by the body to balance this active Yang qi. It’s analogous to electricity being grounded into the earth. Yang qi tends to rise in the body so the head and hands are often involved in this grounding to the earth’s yin energy in spontaneous movement episodes. The torso can also be involved to maximize this grounding.
 

This rising of energy to the head can lead to health issues if not managed, so it’s always good to close down well at the end of practice bringing this active energy back down. Through practices that build/strengthen the yin  energy center in the abdomen (Dan tian or kanda) one creates a controlling mechanism/repository for this active energy leading to less spontaneous activity as well as less exposure to issues from  active energy  rising to the head. Regardless still always a good practice to close down well to be on the safe side. 
 

this excess active energy also has many other manifestations than this seeking of grounding (speaking, shaking, dancing, forming hand mudras, etc,) all are the body/mind’s efforts to normalize and respond to this excess energy. They are akin to the body’s natural response to digesting food (belching and passing gas) and should be viewed similarly (politely ignored) so that people don’t overreact to the experiences generated. 
 

there are many types/levels of absorption - from the basic- soaking one’s full awareness into the body or into sound vibration during yoga or qi gong practice all the way up to the very advanced nirvikalpa samadhi. There is even a Sahaja samadhi - 😆. Different traditions use different names for seemingly related concepts.. My understanding is that meditation is a state one arrives at rather than something one does.

 

hope this is useful. 

Thanks 👍