What is the dan in neidan and dan tian? 丹

[Forestgreen]

7 hours ago, Thrice Daily said:

 

I would get with a female and my energy would completely degrade and practice would be pretty much reset (if you know what I mean) 

Means the foundations are not solid enough. 

7 hours ago, Thrice Daily said:

 

My problem I think looking back is I never found a girl who was cultivating herself in a strong way to complement my own practices.

It's not about your partner. It is always about you. 

My wife focus on gym practice. 

That is not a hurdle in my practice. 

 

You were right in your other post, the entire system must be integrated. 

 

Then you change which level you are working on. 

 

Or, one could just sit and breathe, whatever floats ones boat. A quail is satisfied with it's flying ability...

[ChiDragon]

43 minutes ago, Forestgreen said:

Nowadays, as since the WuZhenPian was written, and the goal was set to awaken to reality rather than health and longevity. 

That is what you are talking about

嗟夫，人身难得，光景易迁，罔测短修，安逃业报，不自及早省悟，惟只甘分待终。

https://zh.m.wikisource.org/zh-hans/悟真篇

Edited September 26 by ChiDragon

[ChiDragon]

On 9/21/2024 at 11:48 AM, Antares said:

I see. And what about this one?

 

So, that is where it came from.

皆云日魂月魄。庚虎甲龙，水银朱砂，白金黑锡，坎男离女，能成金液还丹，终不言真铅真汞是何物色，不说火候法度、温养指归。

[ChiDragon]

Moved down to the nest post.

Edited September 26 by ChiDragon

[ChiDragon]

2 hours ago, Forestgreen said:

It's not about your partner. It is always about you. 

I think what he meant is difficult to find a sex partner, but say it in an eloquent way.

[Thrice Daily]

2 hours ago, ChiDragon said:

I think what he meant is difficult to find a sex partner, but say it in an eloquent way.

I looked at sex and sexual partners very differently in my mid 20’s. That’s when I was doing the most qigong.

 

Sadly I looked at girls largely as an interruption to my practice. 
Energy goes where it’s needed most doesn’t it. I would find in bed laying next to a partner at that very moment before falling asleep when my defences were down I would feel energy leave the body suddenly. With one partner it was always from the heart centre. 
 

People are different of course. I just think it’s difficult being a cultivator in a relationship and helps to have the best partner possible.

 

Would be a good topic for a thread that would. I wonder if there is an older thread that really gets into the subject. Partner or no Partner?

Edited September 26 by Thrice Daily

[Antares]

7 hours ago, Forestgreen said:

Means the foundations are not solid enough. 

That's true. There is the building foundation stage in daoist practice. Ofc it is not possible to realize if one has not authentic method.

Another issue people stumble upon is Hun and Po balance in the practice and daily life even if one has got an authentic method of cultivation.

If one works on Ming mostly the Po will be strengthened and there is a chance to fall into desires and lust and that is where most people balk at in their progress...

If one works on Xing mostly there could be another sort of problems. Both issues relate to Hun and Po balance.

Dual cultivation of Xing and Mng is the best solution. The more balance one has the more chance to control desires but it is not easy task anyway. I am not talking about methods people get from the books or any sort of videos which are not authentic in most cases.

The problem becomes insoluble in such a case

Edited September 26 by Antares

[Antares]

On 25.09.2024 at 10:17 PM, ChiDragon said:

This contains two symbols from the Yijing(易經). Do you know what they meant?

In my humble opinion these are postheaven fire and water - Li and Kan. They must be cultivated and purified. When they are full they can be reversed and thus transformed from postheaven quality into their preheaven state.

[Antares]

ChiDragon, honestly I dont know what you are doing in this section of the forum. May be u need to go to sciencedao.com?

 

[ChiDragon]

52 minutes ago, Antares said:

ChiDragon, honestly I dont know what you are doing in this section of the forum. May be u need to go to sciencedao.com?

 

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[Taoist Texts]

so What is the dan in neidan and dan tian? 丹

There is a true lineage super secret parable about what this exact dan 丹 actually is. Goes like this: once upon a time there were seven blind gropers getting together to grope an elephant with a view to find out what the elephant looks like. But since they were blind they walked past the elephant, bumped into each other, made a huddle and got to groping each other all the while believing  they are groping the elephant. The end.

[Thrice Daily]

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