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44 minutes ago, NaturaNaturans said:

Here:

 

 

 

 

I hope you got the deeper part of the joke .

 

Plenty of youtubes showing 'gun defense '    where the offender sticks the barrel into someone's back or stands within arms reach  and they 'jitsu' them  ... riiiight !

 

I was visiting a dojo a while back, they had weapons on the wall including plastic hand guns . me ; " You are not teaching people deference against guns are you ? "  he said he was , since no one else was around   he goes " Pick one up and I will show you ."  Okay dude   :rolleyes:

 

So I take one up, walk away from him turn and point the 'gun'  "Give me your wallet ."   He takes it out and  in hand offers it .

 

"No no , put it on the floor and kick it over here ."  he does . I squat, keeping aim and eye on him and pick it up and pocket it . And he  smirked ;  " Its just my going out wallet , only got a 20 and no cards in it . "   I amide the gun at his kneecap and said 'Bang ! " thats for being a smart arse  !     .... and I hope you dont teach your kids to give lip to the guy with the gun ! "

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2 minutes ago, Nungali said:

 

 

I hope you got the deeper part of the joke .

 

Plenty of youtubes showing 'gun defense '    where the offender sticks the barrel into someone's back or stands within arms reach  and they 'jitsu' them  ... riiiight !

 

I was visiting a dojo a while back, they had weapons on the wall including plastic hand guns . me ; " You are not teaching people deference against guns are you ? "  he said he was , since no one else was around   he goes " Pick one up and I will show you ."  Okay dude   :rolleyes:

 

So I take one up, walk away from him turn and point the 'gun'  "Give me your wallet ."   He takes it out and  in hand offers it .

 

"No no , put it on the floor and kick it over here ."  he does . I squat, keeping aim and eye on him and pick it up and pocket it . And he  smirked ;  " Its just my going out wallet , only got a 20 and no cards in it . "   I amide the gun at his kneecap and said 'Bang ! " thats for being a smart arse  !     .... and I hope you dont teach your kids to give lip to the guy with the gun ! "

I did boxing, as ive mentioned before. Some people at the gym there, practiced kali sakaran (self defence). Never tried it my self thou, but is it legitimate?

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4 minutes ago, NaturaNaturans said:

I did boxing, as ive mentioned before. Some people at the gym there, practiced kali sakaran (self defence). Never tried it my self thou, but is it legitimate?

 

Probably  .  Sikiran exists in many forms , traditionally its a village foot fighting system where they continually flog each other with fast complex kicks  , full contact .  The version I did had devolved to a 'karate' form , but it still retained some unusual kicks , the instructor (Filipino  ) had remarkable speed, flexibility in the hips  and reflexes  .

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Just now, Nungali said:

 

Probably  .  Sikiran exists in many forms , traditionally its a village foot fighting system where they continually flog each other with fast complex kicks  , full contact .  The version I did had devolved to a 'karate' form , but it still retained some unusual kicks , the instructor (Filipino  ) had remarkable speed, flexibility in the hips  and reflexes  .

Yeah, and If skilled enough you could survive an encounter with a person with a knife?

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1 minute ago, NaturaNaturans said:

Yeah, and If skilled enough you could survive an encounter with a person with a knife?

 

'could'  and ' survive '   being the  relevant  words

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13 hours ago, Nungali said:

 

 

Thanks for sharing this Documentary. I just watched the first five minutes with some food.

Looking forward to returning to it..

 

I’ve had a little training with a Guro who got the chance to train in 2 or 3 systems in the Filipines. A westerner but I think sincere and arduous, his stuff was great to watch.
 

While I only got to spend time briefly with him. I’ve trained often over the years drilling in the basics. I feel that goes a long way energetically. 
 

I prefer to have some training in person. Mantak Chia and Bruce Frantzis I’ve not had the chance to contact in person. Even for a minute would be awesome as their works in their books have been most beneficial over the years.

 

Have you practiced much internal martial arts or more only the hard external stuff?

 

Also did you follow any Qigong systems over the years?

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9 hours ago, Thrice Daily said:

Thanks for sharing this Documentary. I just watched the first five minutes with some food.

 

 actually, I remember being so impressed with his view and philosophy about it,  ( the latter half of the vid , I think  ) I am going to watch it again

 

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Have you practiced much internal martial arts or more only the hard external stuff?

 

You will have to define the difference to me .  I have not not done anything that specifically identifies it as such , but I might be doing it anyway .

 

Also did you follow any Qigong systems over the years?

 

Same answer ... I never did anything CALLED Qigong ... but sometimes ,when I have shown someone some of the stuff I do ,  who knows about stuff like that ,  they have said;  'Thats like Qiqong ." 

 

 

 

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5 minutes ago, Zorro Dantes said:

What is high level but life or death in the terms you lay out…see supremely unpopular opinions 

I don't know. I think if a practitioner can embody a whole system well. 
 

That might constitute high level.

 

I don’t know though personally I will always consider myself a beginner I think. I only really practice basics.

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Agreed ,  its  not first place but last resort .

 

Some people dont stop until they come up against 'last resort' .... if they dont come up against any one or thing like that  , they become 'unstoppable' .  Its part of human nature for some .

 

Check your  'Budoism'.   ;)

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Ah the unstoppable force meets the immovable object…

 

My favourite film illustrating this point is Collateral… 

 


Still, it was an early morning for my this morning, very early and I’m not going to lie. It was an excellent session with the sticks. I’ve found some absolute gems Gem 💎 💎 💎 💎 💎   in the practice , they will probably keep me going for years, maybe even ten.

 

I’m using Beach wood though as my light practice sticks are strangely missing. They are heavy and so it’s quite different training. Gotta watch the elbow joints (and shoulders) 

 

Still great training. Blessings to all 🙏 

And @Nungali, you were right to recommend that fma player through the video you shared. It is ideal information for the trajectory I’m on, so again, Thankyou. 

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On 23/10/2024 at 6:10 AM, Nungali said:

they become 'unstoppable' .  Its part of human nature for some .

I tend to keep my training secret largely, and return to basic rudiments if people watch or at a class. Just have slow respectful beginner mind.

 

My daughter though I teach some stuff to. She loves it, a couple of days ago she asked me if I can become a teacher. She said, oh please Dad. She is just 7. Man something in her voice made me think about doing it.

 

Great Responsibility. Maybe one day, get permission to teach. 
I’ve been very respectful so far, and don’t teach as I’m not qualified. I might have to though…

 

Anybody here qualified to teach Martial Arts, or have experience doing so, any thoughts?

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2 hours ago, Thrice Daily said:

My daughter though I teach some stuff to. She loves it, a couple of days ago she asked me if I can become a teacher. She said, oh please Dad. She is just 7. Man something in her voice made me think about doing it.

 

 

Learn from this guy, teach your daughter first.

 

https://www.instagram.com/reel/C7fXXWcKeAz/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link&igsh=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==

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3 hours ago, Thrice Daily said:

🎞 Nice clip, Thankyou Master Logray… 

🥋 He looks like a solid guy

Lots of nice tutorials…  

 

You may also take a look at this one  https://www.instagram.com/wudangzixiao/

 

He is the fellow disciple of the earlier one.  He also teaches in Spain.  On the video alone, he seems to have a more advance level, probably due to starting from younger age.  If you can't go to China now, learning from these "resellers" in the west would be a possible option.   Because it would be a waste if you learn something now, and shift to another totally different system in China later.  And there are principles and system conflicts too. 

 

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10 hours ago, Thrice Daily said:

I tend to keep my training secret largely, and return to basic rudiments if people watch or at a class. Just have slow respectful beginner mind.

 

My daughter though I teach some stuff to. She loves it, a couple of days ago she asked me if I can become a teacher. She said, oh please Dad. She is just 7. Man something in her voice made me think about doing it.

 

Great Responsibility. Maybe one day, get permission to teach. 
I’ve been very respectful so far, and don’t teach as I’m not qualified. I might have to though…

 

Anybody here qualified to teach Martial Arts, or have experience doing so, any thoughts?

 

Yes, a lot and also a lot of 'remedial work'  . I urge any teacher to try and teach their students in a way the student can comprehend it ! To this end you might want to look into 'types of learning '  ; some people need  visual, some hands on some theory , some need time to digest , we are all different .   I liked sometimes to teach with no words used whatsoever .

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