Seeing, Recognising & Maintaining One's Enlightening Potential II: Open Tradition Edition

[Sherman Krebbs]

54 minutes ago, forestofclarity said:

Meditation is Tibetan is gom, often translated as "to become familiar with." I like this emphasis it isn't really effortful. Once you become familiar with some one, we can recognize them instantly, even if they are dressed differently, with a different haircut, or even in disguise. Same here, IME. 

 

Thanks!  Emotion seems to be hardest to "recognize" and release in this context.  Sometimes am not sure how to regard emotion within the pheonmenonal realm, or really what emotion is. Happiness, sadness, anger, fear, anxiety, anger.  Suppose there are all just the same thing. or maybe there is just pain and no pain.   Something sterling said the other day really stuck with me though, that its the story we make of these things not the things themselves, as they are self liberating. 

[forestofclarity]

1 hour ago, old3bob said:

 

mind, including pure mind (which is great) is still a thing and is not "beyond the beyond" per borrowing a Buddhist quote.

 

Not at all, but feel free to form whatever ideas if that helps you on your own path. 

[old3bob]

 

oh, what happened to the funny guy?

[Thrice Daily]

This is a nice song that is very meditative and is sang three times at each daily session in the Mahayana Kadampa centres … it’s always stayed with me and it’s lovely in the precise way they sing it there. It’s very memorable and meditative in the spirit of a sympathetic joy…. 
 

Here are the words;

 

Tsongkhapa

Crown ornament of thе scholars of the Land of the Snows

You are Buddha Shakyamuni and Vajradhara

The source of all attainments

Avalokiteshvara

The treasury of unobservable compassion

Manjushri

The supreme stainless wisdom

And Vajrapani

The destroyer of the hosts of maras

 

O Venerable Guru-Buddha

Synthesis of all Three Jewels

With my body, speech and mind

Respectfully I make requests

Please grant your blessings

To ripen and liberate myself and others

And bestow the common and supreme attainments…

[forestofclarity]

Quote

Compared to begging one hundred times, save me, protect me! It is much more effective to say once, "Devour me!"

 

--- Machig Labdron

[forestofclarity]

Let's mix it up. I was surprised to come across this. Maybe not fully on point, but sympathetically so: 

 

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Kia cannot be experienced directly because it is the basis of consciousness (or experience), and it has no fixed qualities which the mind can latch on to. Kia is the consciousness, it is the elusive “I” which confers self-awareness but does not seem to consist of anything itself. Kia can sometimes be felt as ecstacy or inspiration, but it is deeply buried in the dualistic mind. It is mostly trapped in the aimless wanderings of thought and in identification with experience and in that cluster of opinions about ourselves called ego. Magic is concerned with giving the Kia more freedom and flexibility and with providing means by which it can manifest its occult power. Kia is capable of occult power because it is a fragment of the great life force of the universe.

 

--- Peter Carroll, Liber Null

[Thrice Daily]

3 minutes ago, forestofclarity said:

Let's mix it up. I was surprised to come across this. Maybe not fully on point, but sympathetically so: 

 

--- Peter Carroll, Liber Null

well ahead of his time wasn't he.

[stirling]

1 hour ago, forestofclarity said:

Let's mix it up. I was surprised to come across this. Maybe not fully on point, but sympathetically so: 

 

--- Peter Carroll, Liber Null

 

I read that a few months ago. Some of it is, while more complicated, quite similar to the Buddhist models. I think of his description of Kia as (an inexpensive car... kidding!) a nice metaphor to explain how our intention can manifest in the world when we are more and more "empty" of "self". My experience is that this is certainly the case.

[forestofclarity]

17 hours ago, Thrice Daily said:

well ahead of his time wasn't he.

 

Or behind, by several millenia, depending on how one looks. 

 

16 hours ago, stirling said:

 

I read that a few months ago. Some of it is, while more complicated, quite similar to the Buddhist models. I think of his description of Kia as (an inexpensive car... kidding!) a nice metaphor to explain how our intention can manifest in the world when we are more and more "empty" of "self". My experience is that this is certainly the case.

 

I could never get straight chaos magic to work. One could say that the model wasn't conducive to convincing my deeper layers of mind.