The Downvote Feature!

[Nungali]

  On 10/14/2024 at 2:19 PM, -ꦥꦏ꧀ ꦱꦠꦿꦶꦪꦺꦴ- said:

 

 

I just realized how close that symbol is to

 

 

An emblem of the 2nd degree (on a black background)  ; a downward wedge of light , plunging through and illuminating darkness

 

 

 

" My brother, on this occasion of you passing through the ordeal I present to you this emblem ..... 'The Sacred Downvote ! '

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Nungali]

  On 10/14/2024 at 2:46 PM, Miffymog said:

I like @ChiDragon!

 

Ah, there we have it !

 

A down vote on a post means you dont like someone !

 

Good Lord !  I get this all the time ; being a director on three boards ... in community meetings :  " Sorry, bad idea for these reasons ; 1 2 3 4 5 6 .....   so I vote no . "

 

Proposer : " Ohhhh Man !  I thought you where my friend !???  "

 

 

[Nungali]

  On 10/14/2024 at 5:56 PM, ChiDragon said:

I only see three members are in favor of it. The majority is not.

 

But we have not had a vote on downvote ... how many will upvote the downvote ?

 

What sort of 'election' counts no votes as the majority ? 

[Nungali]

  On 10/14/2024 at 7:06 PM, Cobie said:

 

But does it say that? This is my interpretation of the characters.

 

天 地 不 仁 

萬 物 芻 狗  

聖 人 不 仁 

百 姓 芻狗 

 

Nature is not humane,

all bodies disposable;

the Emperor is not humane,

all people disposable.

 

~~~
The First Part of DDJ Ch 5 is not in the Guodian. Chars MWD A:

 

天 地 不 仁  tian1 di4 bu4 ren2 

以 萬 物 為 芻 狗  yi3 wan4 wu4 wei2 chu2 gou3 

聖 人 不 仁   sheng4 ren2 bu4 ren2 

以 百 姓 為 芻 狗  yi3 bai3 xing4 wei2 chu2 gou3 

 

 

 

 

Okay fine, now how does that work if we replace what I said  in response to what I was responding to ?

 

ie. how much does it change my contextual point ?

 

and by the way , such a question does not imply  that  I dont like Cobie       

[ChiDragon]

  On 10/15/2024 at 12:25 AM, Nungali said:

 

But we have not had a vote on downvote ... how many will upvote the downvote ?

 

What sort of 'election' counts no votes as the majority ? 

Well, that is not a bad idea. I just hope this 'downvote' icon was meant to be applied to CD only. I just don't want to see other members get discouraged and banned themselves from TDB permanently.

[Nungali]

  On 10/14/2024 at 7:12 PM, NaturaNaturans said:

Thats beautifull 

 

... and the first precept of hermetics    

 

You wanted to penetrate the Eleusinian Mysteries ?   The writing across the arch of the first doorway was  'Man, know thyself .'

 

 

     

 

  

   

 

 

 

[Nungali]

  On 10/14/2024 at 7:20 PM, Cobie said:

 

The traditional character for ‘qi’ is 氣 . The character has 2 components:

气 qi4 - air

米 mi3 - rice

 

气 + 米 —> 氣 

air + rice —> qi 

oxygen  + food  —> energy

 

 

 

Always good to see your translations ... however sometimes  your logic seems awry ....

 

The above shows oxygen might be an ingrediant of air , but not its equivlence  .  IE  Qi  = Oxygen .

 

Wrong .   By the above logic  Qi  =   Oxygen PLUS food .

 

Go on .... explain to me how 'Chinese logic' is different   .   

 

( Noooooooo ... that was rhetorical . )

 

 

Edited October 15, 2024 by Nungali

[Nungali]

  On 10/14/2024 at 8:32 PM, ChiDragon said:

Chapter 5
1.天地不仁，
2.以萬物為芻狗。
3.聖人不仁，
4.以百姓為芻狗。
5.天地之間，
6.其猶橐籥乎﹖
7.虛而不屈，
8.動而愈出。
9.多言數窮，
10.不如守中。

Chapter 5 In terse English
01. Sky and Earth have no mercy,
02. Treating all things as straw dogs.
03. Sages have no mercy,
04. Treating people as straw dogs.
05. In-between-Heaven-and-Earth
06. Is like a wind box,
07. Vacuous but inexhaustible,
08. Dynamic but invigorating.
09. Excessive words accelerate failure.
10. Prefer to stay being neutral.

 

Even looking at point one , how does that fit in with my original response considering its CONTEXT

 

or has that fallen by the wayside as the wheels follow the ruts ?

[Nungali]

  On 10/14/2024 at 8:43 PM, -ꦥꦏ꧀ ꦱꦠꦿꦶꦪꦺꦴ- said:

@dwai this too. We must educate with the iron fist of the downvote. 
 

 

 

 

It seems nicer than an  'up fist '  .

Edited October 15, 2024 by Nungali

[Nungali]

  On 10/15/2024 at 12:37 AM, ChiDragon said:

Well, that is not a bad idea. I just hope this 'downvote' icon was meant to be applied to CD only.

 

I just put in a report on you for suggesting that moderators put in a down vote feature that was meant to apply only to cross dressers ... Sean will be furious ! 

 

I just don't want to see other members get discouraged and banned themselves from TDB permanently.

 

Meh , IMO too many people see too much importance  about who pressed what under their own posts .

 

I have a heap of likes     ... how many YOU got ? 

 

 

 

 

Edited October 15, 2024 by Nungali

[ChiDragon]

  On 10/14/2024 at 11:34 PM, Nungali said:

How about we replace it with this  ?   ....

 

 

Don't you think this is a nicer way to slap somebody's face with a little humor without hostile intention?

[Nungali]

  On 10/15/2024 at 1:13 AM, ChiDragon said:

Don't you think this is a nicer way to slap somebody's face with a little humor without hostile intention?

 

Eeeeegh ! 

 

1.  If I use down vote there is NO intention that it means a slap in the face , on my part . If YOU feel a slap in the face , that is something for you to look at and work on .

 

2.  Look at the cats faces ... one is sad and hurt and the other has 'evil delight' .

 

3. Its physical abuse .

 

4.  Yes, it is humerous ... but why ?   Please explain  why , not a rhetorical question .

 

5. Your whole analogy about slapping someones face and a mere down arrow is really over the top, if you think about it .  Obviously your ego is bruised , and you did feel a bit knocked off your perch ... but IMO TTBs is about growth and development ... as a well as ;selling your wares ' . I am not too keen on the second one , but 'tough titties' to me .

 

[ Are you an American ?  I do find their culture has engendered in them , more of a feeling of upset, outrage, anger , not looking at the underlying issue , etc . when criticized or insulted  .  I really noticed that at work with mixed USA and Aussie crews with a big mix of various  other  cultural individuals . ]

 

6. You cant seem to disassociate hostile intent from all the other things a down vote might mean , even though its been explained in all sorts of ways .

 

7. I have never  drawn more points of criticism from such a short phrase before !  

 

8 . Persistent little bugger aren't you ?    ( meaning  you 'hold fast to your perceptions amidst a sea of alternative 'pointing out and explaining ' . )

Edited October 15, 2024 by Nungali

[Miffymog]

I was thinking, could we possibly change the colour for the down vote from red to blue, so it looks a little less harsh?

[Miffymog]

Goddammit! I've now lost some of the joy of that little notification symbol when I log in!

[-ꦥꦏ꧀ ꦱꦠꦿꦶꦪꦺꦴ-]

  On 10/15/2024 at 6:53 AM, Miffymog said:

I was thinking, could we possibly change the colour for the down vote from red to blue, so it looks a little less harsh?

 

[Thrice Daily]

That’s a cool idea tbf. I’m half with you and half with ChiDragon. 
 

for the sake of mental health 😂 

 

IMHO 😆 

[-ꦥꦏ꧀ ꦱꦠꦿꦶꦪꦺꦴ-]

  On 10/15/2024 at 11:22 AM, Thrice Daily said:

That’s a cool idea tbf. I’m half with you and half with ChiDragon. 
 

for the sake of mental health 😂 

 

IMHO 😆 

Half half you say?

 

 

[Thrice Daily]

Yes. That’s totally cool, @ChiDragon has to get behind that.

 

would you support this change @ChiDragon 

[Lukks]

  On 10/15/2024 at 11:41 AM, -ꦥꦏ꧀ ꦱꦠꦿꦶꦪꦺꦴ- said:

Half half you say?

 

 

 

That's what I call a Taoist downvote

 

[Sir Darius the Clairvoyent]

I suggest we all just accept christ into our hearts instead, and never again pass judgement on one another.

 

thy kingdom come, amen 🕊️

[liminal_luke]

Sorry NaturaNaturans!  In a very abstracted theoretical way I can get behind what you are saying.  But the "Christians" have low-key traumatized me with their bullying my-way-or-the-highway ways.  

[Sir Darius the Clairvoyent]

  On 10/15/2024 at 2:07 PM, liminal_luke said:

Sorry NaturaNaturans!  In a very abstracted theoretical way I can get behind what you are saying.  But the "Christians" have low-key traumatized me with their bullying my-way-or-the-highway ways.  

It was a joke my Friend

[liminal_luke]

  On 10/15/2024 at 2:07 PM, NaturaNaturans said:

It was a joke my Friend

 

Ah, OK...I thought maybe but wasn´t sure.  Thanks!

 

[ChiDragon]

  On 10/15/2024 at 12:49 PM, Thrice Daily said:

Yes. That’s totally cool, @ChiDragon has to get behind that.

 

would you support this change @ChiDragon 

Yes, I definitely will support anything that is related to Taoist philosophy. I think that is a great idea. The Yin-yang downvote icon warms my heart.

 

PS I have felt the peace and harmony amongst our TDB friends already.

Edited October 15, 2024 by ChiDragon

[Sir Darius the Clairvoyent]

  On 10/15/2024 at 2:09 PM, liminal_luke said:

 

Ah, OK...I thought maybe but wasn´t sure.  Thanks!

 

Yupp, that dogma has allready been pushed on way to many billions.