Nungali Posted October 15 9 hours ago, -ꦥꦏ꧀ ꦱꦠꦿꦶꦪꦺꦴ- said: I just realized how close that symbol is to An emblem of the 2nd degree (on a black background) ; a downward wedge of light , plunging through and illuminating darkness " My brother, on this occasion of you passing through the ordeal I present to you this emblem ..... 'The Sacred Downvote ! ' 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nungali Posted October 15 9 hours ago, Miffymog said: I like @ChiDragon! Ah, there we have it ! A down vote on a post means you dont like someone ! Good Lord ! I get this all the time ; being a director on three boards ... in community meetings : " Sorry, bad idea for these reasons ; 1 2 3 4 5 6 ..... so I vote no . " Proposer : " Ohhhh Man ! I thought you where my friend !??? " 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nungali Posted October 15 6 hours ago, ChiDragon said: I only see three members are in favor of it. The majority is not. But we have not had a vote on downvote ... how many will upvote the downvote ? What sort of 'election' counts no votes as the majority ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nungali Posted October 15 5 hours ago, Cobie said: But does it say that? This is my interpretation of the characters. 天 地 不 仁 萬 物 芻 狗 聖 人 不 仁 百 姓 芻狗 Nature is not humane, all bodies disposable; the Emperor is not humane, all people disposable. ~~~ The First Part of DDJ Ch 5 is not in the Guodian. Chars MWD A: 天 地 不 仁 tian1 di4 bu4 ren2 以 萬 物 為 芻 狗 yi3 wan4 wu4 wei2 chu2 gou3 聖 人 不 仁 sheng4 ren2 bu4 ren2 以 百 姓 為 芻 狗 yi3 bai3 xing4 wei2 chu2 gou3 Okay fine, now how does that work if we replace what I said in response to what I was responding to ? ie. how much does it change my contextual point ? and by the way , such a question does not imply that I dont like Cobie Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ChiDragon Posted October 15 3 minutes ago, Nungali said: But we have not had a vote on downvote ... how many will upvote the downvote ? What sort of 'election' counts no votes as the majority ? Well, that is not a bad idea. I just hope this 'downvote' icon was meant to be applied to CD only. I just don't want to see other members get discouraged and banned themselves from TDB permanently. 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nungali Posted October 15 5 hours ago, NaturaNaturans said: Thats beautifull ... and the first precept of hermetics You wanted to penetrate the Eleusinian Mysteries ? The writing across the arch of the first doorway was 'Man, know thyself .' Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nungali Posted October 15 (edited) 5 hours ago, Cobie said: The traditional character for ‘qi’ is 氣 . The character has 2 components: 气 qi4 - air 米 mi3 - rice 气 + 米 —> 氣 air + rice —> qi oxygen + food —> energy Always good to see your translations ... however sometimes your logic seems awry .... The above shows oxygen might be an ingrediant of air , but not its equivlence . IE Qi = Oxygen . Wrong . By the above logic Qi = Oxygen PLUS food . Go on .... explain to me how 'Chinese logic' is different . ( Noooooooo ... that was rhetorical . ) Edited October 15 by Nungali 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nungali Posted October 15 4 hours ago, ChiDragon said: Chapter 51.天地不仁，2.以萬物為芻狗。3.聖人不仁，4.以百姓為芻狗。5.天地之間，6.其猶橐籥乎﹖7.虛而不屈，8.動而愈出。9.多言數窮，10.不如守中。Chapter 5 In terse English01. Sky and Earth have no mercy,02. Treating all things as straw dogs.03. Sages have no mercy,04. Treating people as straw dogs.05. In-between-Heaven-and-Earth06. Is like a wind box,07. Vacuous but inexhaustible,08. Dynamic but invigorating.09. Excessive words accelerate failure.10. Prefer to stay being neutral. Even looking at point one , how does that fit in with my original response considering its CONTEXT or has that fallen by the wayside as the wheels follow the ruts ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nungali Posted October 15 (edited) 4 hours ago, -ꦥꦏ꧀ ꦱꦠꦿꦶꦪꦺꦴ- said: @dwai this too. We must educate with the iron fist of the downvote. It seems nicer than an 'up fist ' . Edited October 15 by Nungali 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nungali Posted October 15 (edited) 35 minutes ago, ChiDragon said: Well, that is not a bad idea. I just hope this 'downvote' icon was meant to be applied to CD only. I just put in a report on you for suggesting that moderators put in a down vote feature that was meant to apply only to cross dressers ... Sean will be furious ! I just don't want to see other members get discouraged and banned themselves from TDB permanently. Meh , IMO too many people see too much importance about who pressed what under their own posts . I have a heap of likes ... how many YOU got ? Edited October 15 by Nungali 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ChiDragon Posted October 15 1 hour ago, Nungali said: How about we replace it with this ? .... Don't you think this is a nicer way to slap somebody's face with a little humor without hostile intention? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nungali Posted October 15 (edited) 12 minutes ago, ChiDragon said: Don't you think this is a nicer way to slap somebody's face with a little humor without hostile intention? Eeeeegh ! 1. If I use down vote there is NO intention that it means a slap in the face , on my part . If YOU feel a slap in the face , that is something for you to look at and work on . 2. Look at the cats faces ... one is sad and hurt and the other has 'evil delight' . 3. Its physical abuse . 4. Yes, it is humerous ... but why ? Please explain why , not a rhetorical question . 5. Your whole analogy about slapping someones face and a mere down arrow is really over the top, if you think about it . Obviously your ego is bruised , and you did feel a bit knocked off your perch ... but IMO TTBs is about growth and development ... as a well as ;selling your wares ' . I am not too keen on the second one , but 'tough titties' to me . [ Are you an American ? I do find their culture has engendered in them , more of a feeling of upset, outrage, anger , not looking at the underlying issue , etc . when criticized or insulted . I really noticed that at work with mixed USA and Aussie crews with a big mix of various other cultural individuals . ] 6. You cant seem to disassociate hostile intent from all the other things a down vote might mean , even though its been explained in all sorts of ways . 7. I have never drawn more points of criticism from such a short phrase before ! 8 . Persistent little bugger aren't you ? ( meaning you 'hold fast to your perceptions amidst a sea of alternative 'pointing out and explaining ' . ) Edited October 15 by Nungali 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Miffymog Posted October 15 I was thinking, could we possibly change the colour for the down vote from red to blue, so it looks a little less harsh? 2 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Miffymog Posted October 15 Goddammit! I've now lost some of the joy of that little notification symbol when I log in! 2 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
-ꦥꦏ꧀ ꦱꦠꦿꦶꦪꦺꦴ- Posted October 15 4 hours ago, Miffymog said: I was thinking, could we possibly change the colour for the down vote from red to blue, so it looks a little less harsh? 1 1 2 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Thrice Daily Posted October 15 That’s a cool idea tbf. I’m half with you and half with ChiDragon. for the sake of mental health 😂 IMHO 😆 1 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
-ꦥꦏ꧀ ꦱꦠꦿꦶꦪꦺꦴ- Posted October 15 18 minutes ago, Thrice Daily said: That’s a cool idea tbf. I’m half with you and half with ChiDragon. for the sake of mental health 😂 IMHO 😆 Half half you say? 2 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Thrice Daily Posted October 15 Yes. That’s totally cool, @ChiDragon has to get behind that. would you support this change @ChiDragon 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lukks Posted October 15 1 hour ago, -ꦥꦏ꧀ ꦱꦠꦿꦶꦪꦺꦴ- said: Half half you say? That's what I call a Taoist downvote 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sir Darius the Clairvoyent Posted October 15 I suggest we all just accept christ into our hearts instead, and never again pass judgement on one another. thy kingdom come, amen 🕊️ 1 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
liminal_luke Posted October 15 Sorry NaturaNaturans! In a very abstracted theoretical way I can get behind what you are saying. But the "Christians" have low-key traumatized me with their bullying my-way-or-the-highway ways. 3 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sir Darius the Clairvoyent Posted October 15 Just now, liminal_luke said: Sorry NaturaNaturans! In a very abstracted theoretical way I can get behind what you are saying. But the "Christians" have low-key traumatized me with their bullying my-way-or-the-highway ways. It was a joke my Friend 1 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
liminal_luke Posted October 15 1 hour ago, NaturaNaturans said: It was a joke my Friend Ah, OK...I thought maybe but wasn´t sure. Thanks! 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ChiDragon Posted October 15 (edited) 1 hour ago, Thrice Daily said: Yes. That’s totally cool, @ChiDragon has to get behind that. would you support this change @ChiDragon Yes, I definitely will support anything that is related to Taoist philosophy. I think that is a great idea. The Yin-yang downvote icon warms my heart. PS I have felt the peace and harmony amongst our TDB friends already. Edited October 15 by ChiDragon 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sir Darius the Clairvoyent Posted October 15 8 minutes ago, liminal_luke said: Ah, OK...I thought maybe but wasn´t sure. Thanks! Yupp, that dogma has allready been pushed on way to many billions. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
