Lois Posted Thursday at 06:11 PM "The Height of Idiocy There are hundreds of thousands of artists in the world. I once read that there are 300,000 artists in Paris alone. There are many famous artists who, for example, arenât interested in AI painting. Yet, thatâs whatâs truly fascinating right now! I believe that those who ignore modern forms of painting have no connection to history! Check out this gallery to see the grand levels of artistry: https://superrare.com/explore But 99 percent of artists are unaware of such things. They continue with endless exhibitions in traditional galleries, clueless about what's really happening. Itâs both frightening and amusing!" Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nungali Posted Thursday at 10:43 PM It is not 'painting' though .  Painting is a visual art, which is characterized by the practice of applying paint, pigment, color or other medium to a solid surface (called the "matrix"[1] or "support").[2] The medium is commonly applied to the base with a brush, but other implements, such as knives, sponges, and airbrushes, may be used. One who produces paintings is called a painter.  'Unaware ' ... 'clueless' ...  'amusing '  ?   ' The Height of Idiocy '    did seem a good title for that post though . 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lois Posted Friday at 02:58 AM 4 hours ago, Nungali said: It is not 'painting' though . Â This is the answer of AI Copilot Yes, computer graphics can be considered a form of painting, especially when it comes to digital painting. Digital painting uses computer technology to create images, mimicking traditional artistic tools like brushes, paints, and canvases. Digital painting allows artists to create artworks on a computer screen using graphic tablets and specialized software. This form of art includes many techniques and styles characteristic of traditional painting but utilizes digital tools for their execution. Therefore, digital painting is a modern direction in art that expands the possibilities for artists and allows them to experiment with new forms and methods of creating images. If you have any more questions about digital painting or other aspects of computer art, feel free to ask! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nungali Posted Friday at 06:45 AM 3 hours ago, Lois said:  This is the answer of AI Copilot Yes, computer graphics can be considered a form of painting, especially when it comes to digital painting. Digital painting uses computer technology to create images, mimicking traditional artistic tools like brushes, paints, and canvases. Digital painting allows artists to create artworks on a computer screen using graphic tablets and specialized software. This form of art includes many techniques and styles characteristic of traditional painting but utilizes digital tools for their execution. Therefore, digital painting is a modern direction in art that expands the possibilities for artists and allows them to experiment with new forms and methods of creating images.  I say it isnt . And it will not be allowed in our galleries .  3 hours ago, Lois said: If you have any more questions about digital painting or other aspects of computer art, feel free to ask!  Ask who ?  AI copilot ?    1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lois Posted Friday at 09:16 AM 2 hours ago, Nungali said: Ask who ?  AI copilot ?  yes 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lois Posted Friday at 09:27 AM 2 hours ago, Nungali said: Â I say it isnt . And it will not be allowed in our galleries . Â This is not true. Galleries exhibit computer graphics works that are printed, for example, on paper. There are other forms. There are galleries that show video art, including those created with computer graphics. Personally, I did this in one gallery. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nungali Posted Friday at 08:50 PM 11 hours ago, Lois said: yes  No thanks .  But you can give AI art a message from me ;  Go back to art school and concentrate on getting the hands right ! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nungali Posted Friday at 09:00 PM (edited) 11 hours ago, Lois said:  This is not true. Galleries exhibit computer graphics works that are printed, for example, on paper. There are other forms. There are galleries that show video art, including those created with computer graphics. Personally, I did this in one gallery.  Well, I have seen computer graphics' in art galleries but it was not AI art . I have seen video art in galleries but that is not AI art .  What I am saying is , AI art like the below example , is never gonna make it into a gallery .   Now THAT ^ is the height of idiocy !   I will also tell you what is a higher form of idiocy ;  claiming 99 % of artists are unaware of AI art because they choose to keep humanly painting and not switch to the 'dumb downed computer assisted version ' and continue with their chosen media ... AND find success in a gallery and you cant ... and you find them clueless frightening and amusing .  Thats what you think :  " But 99 percent of artists are unaware of such things. They continue with endless exhibitions in traditional galleries, clueless about what's really happening. Itâs both frightening and amusing!"  tell you what Lois, why dont YOU give up your preferred medium of art and start painting ? are you unaware of real art ? 99% of AI artists must be unaware of real art . You and them are clueless ... amusing  ... but not frightening . Edited Friday at 09:03 PM by Nungali Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sir Darius the Clairvoyent Posted Friday at 09:07 PM Can I share some feel good news? This is 15 yo. William Heimdal: here is some of his work: (Sorry, intented to upload more but was unable to)  Quote âSeek Conflict, Not Safetyâ | William Heimdalâs Advice on Swimming Against the Current Written by Carl Korsnes | March 16, 2021  Kitsch painter William Heimdal has read his Bible and follows the Sermon on the Mountâs advice to choose the narrow path. He believes that many people are too obsessed with living in the comfort of safety and advocates for actively seeking conflict instead.  âToday, people are encouraged to seek a safe society but forget that the wide gate leads to destruction,â says the young painter.  Known as âPrince Williamâ in the kitsch community, Heimdal made the decision to forgo high school to follow his calling as a painter. He chose to break with societal norms because, for him, seeking challenges is a virtue.  âOne should always seek challenges and conflict because thatâs how one improves,â he states.  Slaying the Great Dragon  Heimdal has found much wisdom in Jesusâ words from the Sermon on the Mount. He quotes the passage that has been pivotal for him during his recent crossroads:  âEnter through the narrow gate. For wide is the gate and broad is the road that leads to destruction, and many enter through it. But small is the gate and narrow the road that leads to life, and only a few find it.â  âItâs about how dead fish follow the current. The strong salmon swims upstream,â he says.  The kitsch painter draws inspiration from J.R.R. Tolkienâs The Lord of the Rings universe to illustrate his point:  âSlaying the great dragon is what gives life meaning, not living in the Shire. Frodo took on the task. If there were nothing admirable about that, we wouldnât read the story,â he says, adding:  âBut one also needs a guide, like Gandalf, to show the way to Mordor.â  âWho has been your guide?â âOdd Nerdrum, of course.â  Heimdal refers to Joseph Campbell, the psychologist who wrote groundbreaking work on myths and became a myth himself. Campbell described accepting a challenge as the first step on the Heroâs Journeyâa universal story pattern found across cultures. The threshold to accept this challenge can be high, but itâs the decision that gives life meaning and sets the adventure in motion.  Living the Heroâs Life  Still in his teens, Heimdal spends little time with peers. He doesnât pursue a formal education like most do today. Instead, he learns painting from the great masters, reads philosophy from ancient thinkers, and discusses existential questions with like-minded individuals. For him, this constitutes a better education than any modern institution could offer.  He aims to live a life akin to the heroes in myths or movies.  âNo one watches a movie about a boy who grows up in a safe home, goes to school, becomes a mechanic, and retires at 60 with a gold watch. Thatâs not a story,â he asserts.  âOne must live as if someone is making a movie about them.â  The Power of the System  Heimdal believes modern society is not designed for people to live as heroes; rather, it discourages it.  âWe live in a society where the State rules. The Stateâs greatest challenge is virtuous individualsâthose who are self-reliant. Youâre never encouraged to be confident in yourself; youâre taught to trust the system,â he explains.  He cites societyâs response to the coronavirus as an example:  âThe independent individual, willing to risk illness to put bread on the table, is portrayed as the greatest threat. Meanwhile, those who conform by wearing âslave masksâ (face masks, ed.) are hailed as heroes,â he says.  Heimdal claims he has never been deeply involved in society and has no interest in it. For him, the sacred values are the individual and the family.  âOthers learn that paying taxes gets you free healthcare and that you must bow to the great public power. I have no relationship with that and never have. For me, the private sphere is the core value,â he says, adding:  âSociety doesnât matter much as long as the family remains intact. Maybe itâs because I have a good family that Iâm not particularly affected by society.â  Critique of the Education System  Ten years of schooling havenât brought Heimdal much of value, he claims. He is particularly critical of how little the Norwegian school system fosters independent thinking.  âThereâs a dangerous indoctrination in Norwegian schools that I donât want to be part of. Iâm also not susceptible to such indoctrination, so I just get frustrated when my classmates accept it,â he says.  Many advised Heimdal to pursue formal education for the security it would provide as a fallback option. These arguments didnât appeal to him.  âIf you weave a safety net to catch you, itâs wasted effort if the threads are moth-eaten. The school system is rotten to the core, so I donât see its value. I donât understand why anyone would seek safety,â he says.  âAre you secure in yourself?â âYes.â  âHas philosophy played a role in that?â âPhilosophy has been vital in my decision-making and life in general. Classical philosophy is so deeply human that itâs hard not to be captivated by it,â Heimdal emphasizes. On the Shoulders of Giants  Heimdalâs life choices and expressed values demand independent thinking and self-reliance. While these principles may strongly guide his life, his perspective on painting is different.  âShould a painter strive to be independent?â âNot at all. We stand on the shoulders of giants. Thereâs nothing wrong with that. Greatness arises when you have a close connection to the giants of the past. If you stand on the shoulders of giants, you might get closer to God,â Heimdal explains.  âWhose shoulders do you stand on?â âThe Greeksâ. And the Greeks stand on the Egyptiansâ. And the Egyptians stand on someone elseâsâprobably someone from before the Flood.â  âMan with Skullâ by William Heimdal.  At the Center of the Universe  In recent years, psychologist Jordan Peterson has critiqued the modern tendency toward what he calls âgroup identification,â where people define themselves primarily by their groupâbe it ethnicity, orientation, or political beliefsâwhile disregarding individual differences.  Heimdal holds individuality sacred and rejects defining himself solely through group affiliations. Not even age is something he ties closely to his identity.  âWe live in a society that is very preoccupied with age. What is your relationship to your own age?â âI donât have a relationship with my age at all. Itâs a strength not to care about such superficial things.â  âWhatâs the value of associating with people of different ages?â âIf, as an 80-year-old, you find that your entire friend group has dropped like flies, you become bitter. That doesnât happen if your friend group includes people who are 20, 40, and 60 years old,â he explains.  âNot defining yourself by age requires confidence, a sense of security in being an individual. Even though youâve said you donât seek safety, it seems like you have an internal sense of security. Is that true?â  Heimdal attributes this inner security to a strong family foundation and a worldview that elevates the individual and humanity as a whole.  âYou constantly hear that humans are just tiny grains of sand in the world and that what we do doesnât matter. Thatâs the consensus. But I subscribe to the Greek worldviewâthat the Earth is at the center of the universe,â Heimdal concludes.  âEverything revolves around humanity.â   IMG_3497.webp IMG_3497.webp IMG_3497.webp Share this post Link to post Share on other sites