Leaving a Religion disrupts Qi?

[tianzhang]

Hi so for a quick background on myself, I came from a really abusive household they were also Religious and used it to control the children alot. Unfortunately I fell victim to it and joined the Religion for several years, I was told I was a bad person in my past life, needed to be punished, etc. I started hearing voices in my head ( not actual voices just intrusive thoughts) that told me I needed to fail and suffer in life, my life generally has been unfortunate up until this point.

Now with Neigong and martial arts my mind got more clear and I've decided to leave, but the strange part is that I still get fear and panic which seems to cause blockages in my body. Anyone have experience with this?

[Chang dao ling]

21 hours ago, tianzhang said:

Hi so for a quick background on myself, I came from a really abusive household they were also Religious and used it to control the children alot. Unfortunately I fell victim to it and joined the Religion for several years, I was told I was a bad person in my past life, needed to be punished, etc. I started hearing voices in my head ( not actual voices just intrusive thoughts) that told me I needed to fail and suffer in life, my life generally has been unfortunate up until this point.

Now with Neigong and martial arts my mind got more clear and I've decided to leave, but the strange part is that I still get fear and panic which seems to cause blockages in my body. Anyone have experience with this?

So sad. May god bless you and and give you good life. Can you tell which religion you belongs to? 

[tianzhang]

54 minutes ago, Chang dao ling said:

So sad. May god bless you and and give you good life. Can you tell which religion you belongs to? 

Was Buddhism, Pureland

[Chang dao ling]

On 11/17/2024 at 11:53 AM, tianzhang said:

Was Buddhism, Pureland

https://authenticneigong.com/

Check the above link. Rudi will help you. I think you need a good teacher for you to recover from your past turama 

[Master Logray]

Leaving a religion disrupts Chi.  But leaving the loved ones, leaving a country, leaving money, leaving a career all disrupt Chi.    I think telling a person his past life is bad is not right.   Real or not, you are a new person, which is why death is for, it gives you a clean slate.  

[tianzhang]

On 11/19/2024 at 4:49 AM, Master Logray said:

Leaving a religion disrupts Chi.  But leaving the loved ones, leaving a country, leaving money, leaving a career all disrupt Chi.    I think telling a person his past life is bad is not right.   Real or not, you are a new person, which is why death is for, it gives you a clean slate.  

It's unfortunate it had to be this way, didn't help I've run into a lot of bad luck in my adult life.

[Sir Darius the Clairvoyent]

On 17.11.2024 at 6:28 AM, Chang dao ling said:

May god bless you

Forgive me, but the timing haha

[Thrice Daily]

4 hours ago, tianzhang said:

It's unfortunate it had to be this way, didn't help I've run into a lot of bad luck in my adult life.

Try not to get too caught up on it, so many past lives, so many good times and bad, good deaths and bad deaths. No worries it is all just variations arising and passing. You will be alright I'm sure. 

 

Just live simple and basic, as long as you have money to do so. You will be blessed, if not work for your food and lodgings, you will find a way, and good health will follow.

 

The love and light is with you always and through the universe it and you are recycled over and over again billions of years past billions of years, from dazzling stars to deep cold space , you were fine and you will be fine again. I hope to meet you on your path sometime, be free.

[Chang dao ling]

8 hours ago, Sir Darius the Clairvoyent said:

Forgive me, but the timing haha

What timing you are talking 🤔 

[Sir Darius the Clairvoyent]

5 hours ago, Chang dao ling said:

What timing you are talking 🤔 

Maybe im mistaken, prob just because God is pretty much synonomous with Christian god intuitivley, so I wondered a little about saying God bless you to a person loosing his religion, which I again foolishy assumed was Christianity.

 

My bad, apologies!

[Chang dao ling]

23 hours ago, Sir Darius the Clairvoyent said:

Maybe im mistaken, prob just because God is pretty much synonomous with Christian god intuitivley, so I wondered a little about saying God bless you to a person loosing his religion, which I again foolishy assumed was Christianity.

 

My bad, apologies!

No need to apologise 😉. By the are you really a clairvoyant 😁

[doc benway]

On 11/16/2024 at 2:31 AM, tianzhang said:

Hi so for a quick background on myself, I came from a really abusive household they were also Religious and used it to control the children alot. Unfortunately I fell victim to it and joined the Religion for several years, I was told I was a bad person in my past life, needed to be punished, etc. I started hearing voices in my head ( not actual voices just intrusive thoughts) that told me I needed to fail and suffer in life, my life generally has been unfortunate up until this point.

Now with Neigong and martial arts my mind got more clear and I've decided to leave, but the strange part is that I still get fear and panic which seems to cause blockages in my body. Anyone have experience with this?

 

Religion is something that we are indoctrinated into from a VERY young and impressionable age, essentially from birth. The beliefs and consequences of disbelief are deeply embedded in us and it is very natural to experience strong and frightening emotions, thoughts, energetic disturbances, inner dialogue, and even physical symptoms related to separating. There are a lot of people publicly discussing the "deconstruction" of their Christian faith in the US right now and there are probably some useful support groups and other resources out there. For example, here is one resource - https://www.soyouredeconstructing.com/.

 

Ironically, one of the best spiritual guides I've ever heard talk about this process, indirectly, was Father Anthony Demello, a Jesuit and a psychologist from India. He spoke at length of the deep need, he referred to it as an addiction, we all have to feel accepted by those around us. It is a very powerful driving force for people that goes back to early childhood and religious indoctrination is an important part of the equation. I think what you are going through is completely normal. I also think it is important to have some support from others who can understand and relate to your situation. It is not easy to do something like this alone. Energetic practices and meditation can be helpful. For some people, mental health support is an important part of the process so keep an open mind about that. 

 

Wishing you the best on your journey. 

[Cobie]

7 hours ago, doc benway said:

… the "deconstruction" of their Christian faith …

The OP is ‘deconstructing’ from Buddhism, Pureland.

 

On 17/11/2024 at 7:23 AM, tianzhang said:

Was Buddhism, Pureland

 

 

 

Edited 16 hours ago by Cobie

[Nungali]

On 11/21/2024 at 9:40 PM, Sir Darius the Clairvoyent said:

Maybe im mistaken, prob just because God is pretty much synonomous with Christian god intuitivley, so I wondered a little about saying God bless you to a person loosing his religion, which I again foolishy assumed was Christianity.

 

My bad, apologies!

 

Dont worry too much  ......   Jesus will forgive you  ... and bless you .

 

Spoiler

Sorry , I could not resist doing that   

 

[Nungali]

On 11/21/2024 at 5:47 AM, tianzhang said:

It's unfortunate it had to be this way, didn't help I've run into a lot of bad luck in my adult life.

 

If you dont mind answering this question ; have you replaced that religion with anything else or do you have new religious expression .?

 

In my philosophy 'bad luck '  can be  'blockages on a path'   because that is not the best path for you .  When you find the right path , things should fall into place more ,   'fortunes align'  and often it is observed as good luck .

 

Also my philosophy does not  condone this :

 

On 11/16/2024 at 6:31 PM, tianzhang said:

... Religious and used it to control the children a lot. ... I was told I was a bad person in my past life, needed to be punished, etc. I started hearing voices in my head ( not actual voices just intrusive thoughts) that told me I needed to fail and suffer in life, my life generally has been unfortunate up until this point.
 

 

Children need to be guided and nurtured . I am sorry you didnt get enough of that .  They need to be taught the opposite  of what you had put onto you .   You did not come here bad with a need to be punished  !  You came here with a special inherent genius waiting to be expressed . It sounds like you on the first stage  in expressing that .   These nasty experiences like you had can leave their mark and try to hold you back , they have deep psychological hooks into the unconscious   ( and the people that put them there should be ashamed of themselves ! )

 

I suggest working on the subconscious level to heal yourself .... as well as maintaining your practices .   Ritual is the language and healer of the unconscious .     You can look at a 'cord cutting ' ceremony ,   or other rituals  ; like scrapping the  skin with a magical blade  ( some feel  wires or  connections or even  'leech  type things ' falling away    when they have had this treatment .)  followed by   fumigation  and purification , etc .

 

And remember  ... EVERY man and every woman is star .... that means YOU TOO ... you have your own shining brilliance  and path , trajectory and mission .

 

Congratulations, it seems you made the first step in breaking out of the   forceful attempted containment  that  others tried to oppress  you with .

[Thrice Daily]

31 minutes ago, Nungali said:

I suggest working on the subconscious level to heal yourself .... as well as maintaining your practices .  

I agree with this. Trying something matter of fact like plain old NLP , 

 

bypass the conscious mind and do some basics like sync work and reframing techniques.

 

I remember beginning with nlp in 2005 and I realised even watching people speak on YouTube and allowing myself to gently get in sync with the movements and rhythms gave great insights and helped get towards changes.

 

nlp is great for transforming fears and overcoming phobias and limiting beliefs 

 

EFT is also very good and not dissimilar when you strip it to the guiding principles. 

[tianzhang]

19 minutes ago, Nungali said:

 

If you dont mind answering this question ; have you replaced that religion with anything else or do you have new religious expression .?

 

In my philosophy 'bad luck '  can be  'blockages on a path'   because that is not the best path for you .  When you find the right path , things should fall into place more ,   'fortunes align'  and often it is observed as good luck .

 

No, I'm agnostic. The closest thing I suppose is power, power governs the Universe from my perspective. Morality, philosophy, etc nothing matters without the power to move the forces of the world. Simply put it.

[tianzhang]

Just now, Thrice Daily said:

I agree with this. Trying something matter of fact like plain old NLP , 

 

bypass the conscious mind and do some basics like sync work and reframing techniques.

 

I remember beginning with nlp in 2005 and I realised even watching people speak on YouTube and allowing myself to gently get in sync with the movements and rhythms gave great insights and helped get towards changes.

 

nlp is great for transforming fears and overcoming phobias and limiting beliefs 

 

EFT is also very good and not dissimilar when you strip it to the guiding principles. 

I tried this but there seems to be some really strong thoughts that physically impact my body and confuses it, really bad thoughts that try to mislead me in life.

[Thrice Daily]

4 minutes ago, tianzhang said:

I tried this but there seems to be some really strong thoughts that physically impact my body and confuses it, really bad thoughts that try to mislead me in life.

Did you try EFT. There is an excellent course available online if you search. It is very long. Recorded each day of a seminar that lasted a number of days

 

each recording is like an hour. That’s how I learned. I was homeless/jobless at the time really struggling and going through a difficult break up. 
 

EFT helped me understand how to quickly short circuit my system without the need for anything complicated or timely. You might want to give it a chance. Sounds like you could do with releasing a lot from your nervous system.

 

it bypasses the thought process. To me it seemed to good to be true at first. But it worked and was way at I needed. It bypassed my thought processes in a way I’d not experienced before. Very fast.

 

and I’ve tried many modalities EFT really impressed me for its Efficiency and Simplicity 

Easy to learn and makes a great companion for life 

 

[doc benway]

5 hours ago, Cobie said:

The OP is ‘deconstructing’ from Buddhism, Pureland.

 

 

 

 

Appreciate the clarification. 

Same principles apply.