Are Neurons (fat cells) Antenna for Spirits [aka Ideas]

[NorthWide]

This is something I came to understand over a long period of time.

 

Source:

1 Kings 4:29, the epistle where it is said to test the spirits [scripture or message] to see if is from God ( using scripture), example: ideas can be cast out (spirits) + meditating on these things.

 

Abstract:

Attempt to reach a conclusion using scripture, midrashes or lack thereof.

 

Only Declaration:

May God have mercy on your wretched soul.

 

Footnotes:

Obviously, this is not literal unless proven, more or less exists until someone has an even better understanding of the subject.

 

Edited December 8 by TheWhiteRabbit
Correcting Autocorrect

[Nungali]

Nope !   Not unless you can explain 

 

1.  HOW    "   God gave Solomon wisdom and very great insight, and a breadth of understanding as measureless as the sand on the seashore. "  is the ' Biblical Source' of  " Neurons (fat cells) being  Antenna for Spirits [aka Ideas] . "

 

2.  How  Neurons are fat cells .    As opposed to the new research that indicates  sensory neurons  branch out from the spine into fat tissue and  directly communicate with a part of the brain called the dorsal root ganglia. Ie. the neurons branch out into the  tissue with the fat cells in it , NOT that neurons are fat cells .

 

3. How 'spirits' are ideas . 

 

- or dont explain and just accept a no answer .

[NorthWide]

5 hours ago, Nungali said:

Nope !   Not unless you can explain 

 

1.  HOW    "   God gave Solomon wisdom and very great insight, and a breadth of understanding as measureless as the sand on the seashore. "  is the ' Biblical Source' of  " Neurons (fat cells) being  Antenna for Spirits [aka Ideas] . "

 

2.  How  Neurons are fat cells .    As opposed to the new research that indicates  sensory neurons  branch out from the spine into fat tissue and  directly communicate with a part of the brain called the dorsal root ganglia. Ie. the neurons branch out into the  tissue with the fat cells in it , NOT that neurons are fat cells .

 

3. How 'spirits' are ideas . 

 

- or dont explain and just accept a no answer .

 

I will when I get home from work.

[stirling]

No god. No spirits. No ideas. 

 

All of these are products of YOUR mind, not real and separate constructs in the world. 

 

God's eye view:

 

This moment is as it is, happening now. Its reality exists WITHOUT all of your ideas about who does what, how it should be, or how you have somehow influenced the entire universe to be as it obviously, naturally, causally IS. Our response to reality is possibly THE least important part of how reality is manifesting and doesn't take into account how the rest of reality has created your actions in this moment, a process which is proportionally MUCH more important. 

 

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Read this last paragraph twice.

 

 

[EFreethought]

Here is an idea: ask questions about christianity on a christian forum and talk about Daoism on a Daoist forum.

 

 

[NorthWide]

15 hours ago, Nungali said:

Nope !   Not unless you can explain 

 

1.  HOW    "   God gave Solomon wisdom and very great insight, and a breadth of understanding as measureless as the sand on the seashore. "  is the ' Biblical Source' of  " Neurons (fat cells) being  Antenna for Spirits [aka Ideas] . "

 

2.  How  Neurons are fat cells .    As opposed to the new research that indicates  sensory neurons  branch out from the spine into fat tissue and  directly communicate with a part of the brain called the dorsal root ganglia. Ie. the neurons branch out into the  tissue with the fat cells in it , NOT that neurons are fat cells .

 

3. How 'spirits' are ideas . 

 

- or dont explain and just accept a no answer .

 

Demonstration time: simple.

Everything that I ever remember about you, though time passed, I went through amnesia... Came back from stuff that was horrible. I remember that we talked about existential questions, like why things happen.

 

This can simply be solved by thinking about something which you do not know the answer to.  After a while, what happens? What is the uniqueness of this parlor trick? Except it is not a parlor trick, you know as well as I that if you focus on a concept long enough, what happens?

 

If literature that Paul mentioned were referred to as spirits... surely he didn't mean the dead or such. If Jimbob is assumed to be unarmed, literally he is not as teeth are spears and nails are tanks (more literally battlements).

It sounds different but even weapons that God uses seem ...different.

 

For God created Adam (man) perfect, but he sought out many devices[literally in the Hebrew it means ideas)

 

There is the east wind that scorches and brings deliverance.

 

There is even the snare of the Almighty which no one escapes who suppress the truth in unrighteousness.

 

There is the wrath of God which is lava and incinerates the enemy.

 

There is the cup of Gods anger, which only affects spirits.

 

How are spirits ideas? In the deliverance ministry spirits cast out have names like pride, so on. Angels also have names like Love, Humility, Valiant so on. So angels and demons are named by their works.

 

Someone also posted something about posting in a Daoist forum, when it is an Abrahamic board on a Daoist forum. If I didn't like string cheese, I wouldn't seek out string cheese. If I didn't want to talk Baseball then you wouldn't see me posting about it. If I didn't like cats, I wouldn't post about it. 

 

I was going to post a whole bunch of scripture, at the last second decided against it, deciding on a more existential approach. Since we have more of a history I felt I should give a somewhat decent response.

 

I've never seen a debate won on the dao bums.

 

..and yes, a lot of people were very angry that I went back to Jesus. I think that is quite firmly established. I understand. I won't apologize for it being the best thing to ever happen to me.

 

Edited December 9 by TheWhiteRabbit

[Nungali]

17 hours ago, EFreethought said:

Here is an idea: ask questions about christianity on a christian forum and talk about Daoism on a Daoist forum.

 

 

 

This IS a Christian forum .    It is a forum within a  Daoist  SITE  that has other religious forums within it .

 

" Freethought '  really ???   and the  Concierge 'likes' this idea ?

 

Does this mean that 'freethought's' will  remove the eclectic  forums to make the whole site one Daoist forum ?

 

I mean , it might be valid to shut down a 'silly' and confused post ... but to  have  Daoism sweep through the whole site and vanquish the 'unbelievers ' .... really  ?    Will I , being an unofficially recognized Daoist / Hermeticist ,  become a refugee ?

[Nungali]

10 hours ago, TheWhiteRabbit said:

 

Demonstration time: simple.

Everything that I ever remember about you, though time passed, I went through amnesia... Came back from stuff that was horrible. I remember that we talked about existential questions, like why things happen.

 

Are you sure you 'back'  yet ?  I think you are still down the rabbit hole .  No offense , take it as an objective observation .

 

This can simply be solved by thinking about something which you do not know the answer to.  After a while, what happens? What is the uniqueness of this parlor trick? Except it is not a parlor trick, you know as well as I that if you focus on a concept long enough, what happens?

 

For me , if I want to know about something I want an answer to, what happens us , I dont just think about it .... there is this thing called study and research  ... thats the first stage ; getting information - knowledge . Then it has to be applied and fit in with everything else in my knowledge / experiential base  - understanding . The I look at it s effects on me and others  and decide  what oir if any of should be implimented  - ' wisdom ' .  That is my preferred process .

 

10 hours ago, TheWhiteRabbit said:

If literature that Paul mentioned were referred to as spirits... surely he didn't mean the dead or such. If Jimbob is assumed to be unarmed, literally he is not as teeth are spears and nails are tanks (more literally battlements).

It sounds different but even weapons that God uses seem ...different.

 

and indeed , it seems I am dealing with 'something different '  ( to be 'charitable'   )   right here !

 

For God created Adam (man) perfect, but he sought out many devices[literally in the Hebrew it means ideas)

 

There is the east wind that scorches and brings deliverance.

 

There is even the snare of the Almighty which no one escapes who suppress the truth in unrighteousness.

 

There is the wrath of God which is lava and incinerates the enemy.

 

There is the cup of Gods anger, which only affects spirits.

 

What a nice little foray into a thunder and lightening sermon ! have you considered mounting a pulpit ?

 

How are spirits ideas? In the deliverance ministry spirits cast out have names like pride, so on. Angels also have names like Love, Humility, Valiant so on. So angels and demons are named by their works.

 

Those  are more like drives  - patterns and reactions set into the emotive body . Ideas  are more responses that are considered in relation to certain intellectual issues .

 

Someone also posted something about posting in a Daoist forum, when it is an Abrahamic board on a Daoist forum.

 

You make a good point there !

 

If I didn't like string cheese, I wouldn't seek out string cheese. If I didn't want to talk Baseball then you wouldn't see me posting about it. If I didn't like cats, I wouldn't post about it. 

 

Well, I dont like cats ... but I post about them .  I dont like Christianity ... but I will post about .  I like  Daoism , I will post about that too .  I will even post anthropology , although there is no anthropology  forum on this site .

 

I was going to post a whole bunch of scripture, at the last second decided against it, deciding on a more existential approach. Since we have more of a history I felt I should give a somewhat decent response.

 

Okay, I shall wait patiently for it .

 

I've never seen a debate won on the dao bums.

 

..and yes, a lot of people were very angry that I went back to Jesus. I think that is quite firmly established. I understand. I won't apologize for it being the best thing to ever happen to me.

 

If you say so .

 

 

[Cobie]

 

1 hour ago, Nungali said:

This IS a Christian forum .    It is a forum within a  Daoist  SITE  that has other religious forums within it .

Exactly. 
 

18 hours ago, EFreethought said:

Here is an idea: ask questions about christianity on a christian forum and talk about Daoism on a Daoist forum.

 

This thread is in the (sub)forum called “Abrahamic Religions Discussion”. 

For the reasoning behind it’s existence, see:

 

 

 

Edited December 9 by Cobie

[Cobie]

 

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Will I , being an unofficially recognized Daoist / Hermeticist ,  become a refugee ?

And me? Daoist/RC.
 

 

Edited December 9 by Cobie

[NorthWide]

Nungalli: thunder... pulpit...

 

It was more about the weapons of God that people don't know they can actually pray for.

 

Nungali: I do research

 

That's fine and dandy but life is like you said years ago not loosing your wonder and experimenting. The experiment answers just that.

[stirling]

22 hours ago, EFreethought said:

Here is an idea: ask questions about christianity on a christian forum and talk about Daoism on a Daoist forum.

 

It isn't CHRISTIAN answer, that's true, but it isn't a Daoist answer either, is it? It is an entreaty to look at experience vs. belief.

 

Fair enough. I'll stay out of the playground for now, unless I think of something Christian to say. 

 

_/\_

[Nungali]

2 hours ago, stirling said:

 

It isn't CHRISTIAN answer, that's true, but it isn't a Daoist answer either, is it? It is an entreaty to look at experience vs. belief.

 

Fair enough. I'll stay out of the playground for now, unless I think of something Christian to say. 

 

_/\_

 

Well, you could have 'thundered down ' on him from a pulpit ..... here I will give you a start on the art ;

 

" ... and in Hell, there will be  a great gnashing of teeth ! ,,, "

 

Old Man calling out  from up the back ;  " But I ain't got no teeth ! " 

 

" ..... well then .... ummmm   ..... The Lord shall provide teeth for those that do have them so they can be gnashed !  "

 

(I know, I know .... this isn't the joke thread ...... but its a Christian joke  !    )

[NorthWide]

42 minutes ago, Nungali said:

 

Well, you could have 'thundered down ' on him from a pulpit ..... here I will give you a start on the art ;

 

" ... and in Hell, there will be  a great gnashing of teeth ! ,,, "

 

Old Man calling out  from up the back ;  " But I ain't got no teeth ! " 

 

" ..... well then .... ummmm   ..... The Lord shall provide teeth for those that do have them so they can be gnashed !  "

 

(I know, I know .... this isn't the joke thread ...... but its a Christian joke  !    )

 

I ascribe to annihilationism. Its not a widely known teaching but it echoes Jesus words that 'only the saved are given eternal life.'

 

Compare: would God torment some forever for an act committed in a few seconds? I say no. Other experiences with other Christians may vary. 

 

[-ꦥꦏ꧀ ꦱꦠꦿꦶꦪꦺꦴ-]

44 minutes ago, TheWhiteRabbit said:

 

I ascribe to annihilationism. Its not a widely known teaching but it echoes Jesus words that 'only the saved are given eternal life.'

What if you live on a remote island and you and your people have never encountered Christianity ever?

[NorthWide]

1 hour ago, -ꦥꦏ꧀ ꦱꦠꦿꦶꦪꦺꦴ- said:

What if you live on a remote island and you and your people have never encountered Christianity ever?

 

Learn the language, find commonality, speak Ancient Hebrew.

 

If you say to an Asian, they Generally know who the Jade Emperor is.

 

If you are speaking Samskrita or Hindi, if you say Jesus would be similar to an Avatar of Vishnu.

 

If you are on Sri Lanka, explain simply that Jesus died so the Yakkas could not go free.

 

Shoe on the other foot, I would be concerned with more horse covered bird eating cats. (Buddhist reference to unhumble spiritual predators)

Edited December 10 by TheWhiteRabbit

[-ꦥꦏ꧀ ꦱꦠꦿꦶꦪꦺꦴ-]

1 hour ago, TheWhiteRabbit said:

 

Learn the language, find commonality, speak Ancient Hebrew.

 

If you say to an Asian, they Generally know who the Jade Emperor is.

 

If you are speaking Samskrita or Hindi, if you say Jesus would be similar to an Avatar of Vishnu.

 

If you are on Sri Lanka, explain simply that Jesus died so the Yakkas could not go free.

 

Shoe on the other foot, I would be concerned with more horse covered bird eating cats. (Buddhist reference to unhumble spiritual predators)

I don’t think you understand my point. Would someone who was born on a desert island with no communication with the rest of the world and will never encounter a Christian or Christianity ever, not go to heaven?

[doc benway]

Neurons are not fat cells. 

Neurons do use a specialized form of fat and protein, myelin, for insulation of their extremely long appendages, but neurons and adipocytes have completely different structure and function.

[NorthWide]

7 hours ago, -ꦥꦏ꧀ ꦱꦠꦿꦶꦪꦺꦴ- said:

I don’t think you understand my point. Would someone who was born on a desert island with no communication with the rest of the world and will never encounter a Christian or Christianity ever, not go to heaven?

 

After death, sin is fully paid.

The wages (reward) for sin is death.

After death, the debt has been paid.

So, this increases this possibility.

 

There are 3 heavens and it is mentioned in the epistles. The first is the domain of man. The second is the layer where spiritual wars are fought. The 3rd heaven is the throne room and other areas and things. The angels sing, sometimes Jesus sings as well. You're already in heaven literally. Its just not all of it is happy in the first 2 heavens.

 

Christian. Im not totally against the use of the word, but what defines a Christian? Jesus said to renounce the self.

That would be scary, too scary for most to give up control and to be that humble. I just excluded a lot. Jesus declared that those WHO SERVE would lead.

 

Pause for emphasis on that last point.

 

Those who lead serve the flock which is opposite 100% of Christianity today.

 

John the Baptist didn't attach himself to a sect of Judaism. Ill repeat it again. John the baptist DID NOT attach himself to a sect of Judaism. What did this mean? It meant that the Jews had fallen into the trap of human tradition and pride.

 

What does it mean to carry Jesus name?

To be spirit led, to follow God. Asking Jesus for things in prayer and following direction. Being righteous.

 

Micah the minor prophet talks about the remnant that will return with Jesus at the final battle. This is in Chapter 5. Those who overcome will kill the wicked.

 

It has been my experience that God shows himself to people that do not know him. Everyone knows God. Its just that often times metaphorically speaking, someone steals our sweet roll and somehow a person thinks God is to blame for people who have dominion over the earth who in the case of the wicked, just LOVE TO CHEW THAT GALL, OH SO NUMMY. Om nom nom.

 

🤣

[End of poSt]

 

 

 

Edited December 10 by TheWhiteRabbit

[Cobie]

10 hours ago, -ꦥꦏ꧀ ꦱꦠꦿꦶꦪꦺꦴ- said:

… Would someone who was born on a desert island with no communication with the rest of the world and will never encounter a Christian or Christianity ever, not go to heaven?

 

RC: They can go to heaven. God’s mercy may reach non-believers, as salvation can be offered in ways only God understands. (Vatican II)

 

 

Edited December 10 by Cobie

[Nungali]

13 hours ago, TheWhiteRabbit said:

 

I ascribe to annihilationism. Its not a widely known teaching but it echoes Jesus words that 'only the saved are given eternal life.'

 

Compare: would God torment some forever for an act committed in a few seconds? I say no. Other experiences with other Christians may vary. 

 

 

'Saved ' from what ?

[Nungali]

13 hours ago, -ꦥꦏ꧀ ꦱꦠꦿꦶꦪꦺꦴ- said:

What if you live on a remote island and you and your people have never encountered Christianity ever?

 

Tough titties ..... burn in Hell ! 

 

 

 

 

 

[Nungali]

11 hours ago, TheWhiteRabbit said:

 

Learn the language, find commonality, speak Ancient Hebrew.

 

If you say to an Asian, they Generally know who the Jade Emperor is.

 

If you are speaking Samskrita or Hindi, if you say Jesus would be similar to an Avatar of Vishnu.

 

If you are on Sri Lanka, explain simply that Jesus died so the Yakkas could not go free.

 

Shoe on the other foot, I would be concerned with more horse covered bird eating cats. (Buddhist reference to unhumble spiritual predators)

 

 

Imagine what this post was like  BEFORE the edit !    ... WOW!

[Nungali]

8 hours ago, doc benway said:

Neurons are not fat cells. 

Neurons do use a specialized form of fat and protein, myelin, for insulation of their extremely long appendages, but neurons and adipocytes have completely different structure and function.

 

I already told him that but mere facts aren't gonna get in the way of this one .  He is on a roll now !

 

'Holy Roller' .

 

general meaning ;    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holy_Roller

 

 

 

Special meaning for Coby  ( when she is bad ) ;

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Nungali]

2 hours ago, Cobie said:

 

RC: They can go to heaven. God’s mercy may reach non-believers, as salvation can be offered in ways only God understands. (Vatican II)

 

 

 

You see , you actually have a religion and a philosophy ( and you are not nuts ) , so the question was easy to answer .

 

(Without ranting a whole paragraph at him of unrelated BS    )

 

I asked that question as a little kid in school during indoctrination lessons  ... I mean in the subject of 'religion' ... at least one period of 'religion' every day .

 

There was  a place called purgatory , where babies and innocent unbelievers went . It was vague  and undescribed , but we where assured little babies where taken care of there .   

 

I mean .... if you work hard and save and buy a nice car , after all that , shy should the guy next door get one for free ?     

 

But I like this new idea better .  maybe one day the church will decide we all go to heaven but the benefit oif being a Christian  is to live a Christian life .... and no need for the  threat of annihilation being the motivation if you are not Christian .  That would be good .  people being nice without the need of threat of punishment or promise reward ... ie. for 'the sake of it' itself .