Cobie Posted December 10 (edited) 19 hours ago, stirling said: I'll stay out of the playground for now, unless I think of something Christian to say. Hmm … irony? Anyway, I for one like you to post in the Abrahamic forum from your Zen/Dzogchen point of view. Exchanging ideas and all that, interesting to read. Edited December 10 by Cobie 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
-ꦥꦏ꧀ ꦱꦠꦿꦶꦪꦺꦴ- Posted December 10 3 hours ago, Cobie said: RC: They can go to heaven. God’s mercy may reach non-believers, as salvation can be offered in ways only God understands. (Vatican II) Thank you for the actual answer 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NorthWide Posted December 10 (edited) 3 hours ago, Nungali said: 'Saved ' from what ? Jesus destroyed the works of the devil. Why do you hate Jesus so much? Edited December 11 by TheWhiteRabbit 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NorthWide Posted December 10 (edited) 21 hours ago, stirling said: It isn't CHRISTIAN answer, that's true, but it isn't a Daoist answer either, is it? It is an entreaty to look at experience vs. belief. Fair enough. I'll stay out of the playground for now, unless I think of something Christian to say. _/\_ Playground is epic. In the years of The Dao Bums that is what it really is. No, we don't vote people off the playground. I think people often forget that it is a playground and its not really a place to grandstand. Things are pretty much take it or leave it. Some do try to be King of the hill but it never ends that way. Some fool gets lucky. So, you are just as welcome on the playground as anyone else. The playground tends to eventually be wormwood for bullies. So, don't get too upset when it doesn't work out the way they like. As coheir with Christ, it entities you to specific benefits. Like this paragraph for instance is a Stone, a cornerstone so to say. I've only chosen to use this gift on this very paragraph instead of inflicting my will, because I believe in free will. Nungali: something about holy roller. I don't ascribe to sectarianism, like whatever sect rolls on the floor, hence. Somebody: Neurons are not fat. If you don't understand what nonsoluble protein is, then we will indulge you. Edited December 11 by TheWhiteRabbit 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NorthWide Posted December 11 (edited) 7 hours ago, Nungali said: Imagine what this post was like BEFORE the edit ! ... WOW! I know. I thought North Sentinel island. Its not a joke, I just kept thinking it the entire time Edited December 11 by TheWhiteRabbit Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NorthWide Posted December 11 (edited) 7 hours ago, Nungali said: I mean .... if you work hard and save and buy a nice car , after all that , shy should the guy next door get one for free ? Jesus gave me a Jeep, brand new for free. I must have some value. I also am married with children. My wife is just like me except huge bazingas. My life seriously turned around it was like waking up from a horrible nightmare and having everything fixed. ...and I keep my word to be humble and follow direction. Edited December 11 by TheWhiteRabbit 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
doc benway Posted December 11 As to the OP, I do think it is interesting to consider our neurological system as an antenna of sorts, or perhaps a conduit, that allows us to connect to and express the creativity and potential of something far deeper and greater than what we generally consider ourselves to be. When I read 1 Kings:29 what I take away is the invitation and the opportunity for us to get in touch more fully with what is beyond our perceived boundaries and live from that place rather from the place of our self-imposed limitations. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nungali Posted December 11 21 hours ago, TheWhiteRabbit said: Jesus destroyed the works of the devil. Why do you hate Jesus so much? Why cant you answer a simple question, without trying to divert with some made up sentiments you then try to project on to me ? Its a simple question . Why cant you answer from your OWN religious perspective , just as Cobie could . Note, I am not saying as Coby 'did' . I am saying Coby can DO it , but you , it seems , can not do it . Instead you make unrelated projections in a passive agressive attack on the questioner . Thats rather 'telling' . 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nungali Posted December 11 20 hours ago, TheWhiteRabbit said: I know. I thought North Sentinel island. Its not a joke, I just kept thinking it the entire time There is a novel Idea ! Maybe you could go and preach there ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nungali Posted December 11 16 hours ago, TheWhiteRabbit said: Jesus gave me a Jeep, brand new for free. I must have some value. I also am married with children. My wife is just like me except huge bazingas. My life seriously turned around it was like waking up from a horrible nightmare and having everything fixed. ...and I keep my word to be humble and follow direction. The Lord works in mysterious ways . 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NorthWide Posted December 11 1 hour ago, Nungali said: Why cant you answer a simple question, without trying to divert with some made up sentiments you then try to project on to me ? Its a simple question . Why cant you answer from your OWN religious perspective , just as Cobie could . Note, I am not saying as Coby 'did' . I am saying Coby can DO it , but you , it seems , can not do it . Instead you make unrelated projections in a passive agressive attack on the questioner . Thats rather 'telling' . You're not making any sense at all. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nungali Posted December 12 (edited) 6 hours ago, TheWhiteRabbit said: You're not making any sense at all. I am . I said it is simple : You said : " I ascribe to annihilationism. Its not a widely known teaching but it echoes Jesus words that 'only the saved are given eternal life.'" I asked you ; "Saved from what ? " You responded that I hate Jesus . ... and I am the one not making sense ? . Edited December 12 by Nungali 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
-ꦥꦏ꧀ ꦱꦠꦿꦶꦪꦺꦴ- Posted December 12 On 11/12/2024 at 4:40 AM, TheWhiteRabbit said: My wife is just like me except huge bazingas. It was written 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NorthWide Posted December 12 (edited) On 12/10/2024 at 4:57 PM, TheWhiteRabbit said: Jesus destroyed the works of the devil. Why do you hate Jesus so much? Jesus destroyed the works of the devil. Jesus destroyed the works of the devil. Jesus destroyed the works of the devil. Jesus destroyed the works of the devil. Jesus destroyed the works of the devil. Jesus destroyed the works of the devil. Jesus destroyed the works of the devil. Jesus destroyed the works of the devil. Jesus destroyed the works of the devil. Jesus destroyed the works of the devil. Jesus destroyed the works of the devil. Jesus destroyed the works of the devil. Saved from what? Jesus destroyed the works of the devil. Jesus destroyed the works of the devil. Jesus destroyed the works of the devil. I would say your memory is highly selective, Nungali, but entertaining an idea that would cause harm, not to mention visiting North Sentinel island is ILLEGAL, I would just say you are starting to get sloppy. Edited December 12 by TheWhiteRabbit Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NorthWide Posted December 12 11 hours ago, Nungali said: There is a novel Idea ! Maybe you could go and preach there ? And there it is. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
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liminal_luke Posted Thursday at 02:36 PM Christians are welcome to debate topics on the forum, of course they are, but I´ll admit that the question "is this Biblically sound?" turns me off. It´s an inquiry that comes, to my ear anyway, with a lot of embedded assumptions. Perhaps the biggest assumption is that the Bible is a book worthy of our consideration. Or, if it is, that we should use at as some sort of measure to judge our thoughts and actions by. I happen to think there´s a lot of wisdom in the Bible. That´s just my guess; I haven´t read most of it. Unfortunately, it´s hard to find mystical truth in a book whose main use through history has been as a blunt object with which to beat down nonconformers and innocent passersby. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nungali Posted Thursday at 10:35 PM 14 hours ago, TheWhiteRabbit said: Jesus destroyed the works of the devil. Jesus destroyed the works of the devil. Jesus destroyed the works of the devil. Jesus destroyed the works of the devil. Jesus destroyed the works of the devil. Jesus destroyed the works of the devil. Jesus destroyed the works of the devil. Jesus destroyed the works of the devil. Jesus destroyed the works of the devil. Jesus destroyed the works of the devil. Jesus destroyed the works of the devil. Jesus destroyed the works of the devil. Saved from what? Jesus destroyed the works of the devil. Jesus destroyed the works of the devil. Jesus destroyed the works of the devil. I would say your memory is highly selective, Nungali, but entertaining an idea that would cause harm, not to mention visiting North Sentinel island is ILLEGAL, I would just say you are starting to get sloppy. It looks like you are saying that Jesus saved you from the 'works of the Devil ' . What are these 'works of the devil' . Yes, visiting North Sentinal island is illegal , I think the Indian government patrols the waters around it ..... to protect them ! Can you guess what THEY are being 'saved' from ? here is a hint ; http://www.historyisnowmagazine.com/blog/2024/10/11/the-andaman-islands-and-why-we-need-to-protect-the-people-there Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nungali Posted Thursday at 10:39 PM (edited) 8 hours ago, liminal_luke said: Christians are welcome to debate topics on the forum, of course they are, but I´ll admit that the question "is this Biblically sound?" turns me off. It´s an inquiry that comes, to my ear anyway, with a lot of embedded assumptions. Perhaps the biggest assumption is that the Bible is a book worthy of our consideration. Or, if it is, that we should use at as some sort of measure to judge our thoughts and actions by. I happen to think there´s a lot of wisdom in the Bible. That´s just my guess; I haven´t read most of it. Unfortunately, it´s hard to find mystical truth in a book whose main use through history has been as a blunt object with which to beat down nonconformers and innocent passersby. Is my fat stomach being a sign of fitness Biblically sound ? I mean lots of Bible characters where fat , so I must be fit . And if you disagree I shall attack you with vehemence, consider you a sinner and Jesus hater and assail you with illogical and crackpot responses until you fear for the future of a sane humanity ! There ! I hope ya learned ya lesson ! . Edited Thursday at 10:41 PM by Nungali 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites