Help with Kidney issues

[tianzhang]

Hi everyone it's me again, so I went to a Chinese medical doctor who also practices Chinese martial arts and has proper lineage. It turns out I have Taiyang/Shaoyang disorder, and my kidneys can't move qi down and possibly some issues with my liver ( no it's not a jing or yin deficiency according to him) any advice to help? Anyone experienced anything similar?

[Cobie]

 

6 hours ago, tianzhang said:

... any advice to help? ...

 

Please first see your GP.

 

 

Edited Friday at 12:04 PM by Cobie

[-ꦥꦏ꧀ ꦱꦠꦿꦶꦪꦺꦴ-]

5 hours ago, tianzhang said:

Hi everyone it's me again, so I went to a Chinese medical doctor who also practices Chinese martial arts and has proper lineage. It turns out I have Taiyang/Shaoyang disorder, and my kidneys can't move qi down and possibly some issues with my liver ( no it's not a jing or yin deficiency according to him) any advice to help? Anyone experienced anything similar?

Surely this doctor’s advice would be better than anyone on here if his credentials are legit. Has he prescribed you any herbs?

[Maddie]

12 hours ago, tianzhang said:

Hi everyone it's me again, so I went to a Chinese medical doctor who also practices Chinese martial arts and has proper lineage. It turns out I have Taiyang/Shaoyang disorder, and my kidneys can't move qi down and possibly some issues with my liver ( no it's not a jing or yin deficiency according to him) any advice to help? Anyone experienced anything similar?

 

If you're going to a TCM doctor then just take his advice. 

[Maddie]

6 hours ago, -ꦥꦏ꧀ ꦱꦠꦿꦶꦪꦺꦴ- said:

Surely this doctor’s advice would be better than anyone on here if his credentials are legit. Has he prescribed you any herbs?

 

Absolutely! You can't properly diagnose or prescribe via the internet.  

[tianzhang]

7 hours ago, Cobie said:

 

 

Please first see your GP.

 

 

He prescribed me some herbs to help, and the grounding palm from Cheng Style seems to help.

[tianzhang]

6 hours ago, -ꦥꦏ꧀ ꦱꦠꦿꦶꦪꦺꦴ- said:

Surely this doctor’s advice would be better than anyone on here if his credentials are legit. Has he prescribed you any herbs?

He did! I am taking them, the problem is whenever I train it seems like my pelvic floor is constantly tightening up for some reason, maybe it's because he had me stop doing zhan zhuang.

[Maddie]

12 hours ago, tianzhang said:

Hi everyone it's me again, so I went to a Chinese medical doctor who also practices Chinese martial arts and has proper lineage. It turns out I have Taiyang/Shaoyang disorder, and my kidneys can't move qi down and possibly some issues with my liver ( no it's not a jing or yin deficiency according to him) any advice to help? Anyone experienced anything similar?

 

Do you tend to get alternating hot and cold? 

[tianzhang]

47 minutes ago, Maddie said:

 

Do you tend to get alternating hot and cold? 

Yeah I have really bad heat issues since I was in middle school, it isn't a natural condition and was acquired due to stress.

[Maddie]

9 minutes ago, tianzhang said:

Yeah I have really bad heat issues since I was in middle school, it isn't a natural condition and was acquired due to stress.

 

That can definitely do it. 

[ChiDragon]

56 minutes ago, Maddie said:

It turns out I have Taiyang/Shaoyang disorder, and my kidneys can't move qi down and possibly some issues with my liver ( no it's not a jing or yin deficiency according to him) any advice to help? Anyone experienced anything similar?

Go get a blood test and urine test too for verification. Nowadays, a good herbalist do read the western test to determine for herbal treatment.

[tianzhang]

Just now, Maddie said:

 

That can definitely do it. 

Yeah the heat got so bad I'd wake up and find it hard to breath alot of the time, sometimes I thought I was dying.

[tianzhang]

Just now, ChiDragon said:

Go get a blood test and urine test too for verification. Nowadays, a good herbalist do read the western test to determine for herbal treatment.

 I did get all of those and they found nothing strange about me.

[Maddie]

2 minutes ago, tianzhang said:

Yeah the heat got so bad I'd wake up and find it hard to breath alot of the time, sometimes I thought I was dying.

 

That almost sounds like blood level heat!

[tianzhang]

Just now, Maddie said:

 

That almost sounds like blood level heat!

It decreased with my stress if that helps, the more neutral and indifferent I became towards life the less the heat got. Only problem is I am still pretty indifferent to life and it seems the heat stays in some form.

[Maddie]

Just now, tianzhang said:

It decreased with my stress if that helps, the more neutral and indifferent I became towards life the less the heat got. Only problem is I am still pretty indifferent to life and it seems the heat stays in some form.

 

Yeah that means its deep. Of the four levels of heat, the blood level is the deepest. 

[tianzhang]

1 minute ago, Maddie said:

 

Yeah that means its deep. Of the four levels of heat, the blood level is the deepest. 

Very unfortunate, I just don't understand how sickly people who practice the internal arts in the past improved but I am still sick from it. Only the grounding palm from the Eight mother palms seem to help me.

Edited Friday at 06:51 PM by tianzhang

[Cobie]

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Edited Friday at 07:02 PM by Cobie

[Maddie]

1 minute ago, tianzhang said:

Very unfortunate, I just don't understand how sickly people who practice the internal arts in the past improved but I am still sick from it. Only the grounding palm from the Eight mother palms seem to help me.

 

Hard to say with the limited information at hand. I'd listen to your TCM doctor. 

[Maddie]

3 minutes ago, tianzhang said:

Very unfortunate, I just don't understand how sickly people who practice the internal arts in the past improved but I am still sick from it. Only the grounding palm from the Eight mother palms seem to help me.

 

I think as a general principle you should avoid anything that builds heat, and focus on things that release and purge. 

[tianzhang]

2 minutes ago, Cobie said:

Imo best to embrace the fact that one day you will die, try to make friends with it.

 

 

 

 

I was actually very suicidal, I WANTED to die. I was angry that I wasn't dying fast enough. I am less so now, but I am very indifferent to life, life was very rough and might still be to an extent.

[tianzhang]

Just now, Maddie said:

 

I think as a general principle you should avoid anything that builds heat, and focus on things that release and purge. 

Doesn't neigong in general build heat due to it circulating qi?

[Maddie]

6 minutes ago, Cobie said:

Imo best to embrace the fact that one day you will die, try to make friends with it.

 

 

 

 

 

That's horrible advice and you should remove it!

[Maddie]

2 minutes ago, tianzhang said:

Doesn't neigong in general build heat due to it circulating qi?

 

Probably, so therefore you probably shouldn't do it if you are having these kinds of problems. Qigong isn't the safe for all exercise that is often assumed. 

[Cobie]

4 minutes ago, tianzhang said:

I was actually very suicidal, I WANTED to die. I was angry that I wasn't dying fast enough. I am less so now, but I am very indifferent to life, life was very rough and might still be to an extent.

My apologies my friend, I have removed the post. Wishing you well.