Help with Kidney issues

[tianzhang]

Just now, Maddie said:

 

Probably, so therefore you probably shouldn't do it if you are having these kinds of problems. Qigong isn't the safe for all exercise that is often assumed. 

I mean I'd have to quit the internal arts in general then wouldn't I?

[tianzhang]

Just now, Cobie said:

My apologies my friend, I have removed the post. Wishing you well.  
 

 

Huh, no I wasn't offended by your post at all! I was just saying, I was familiar with death. You didn't offend anyone, and have no need to apologize but thank you for considering my feelings!

Trust me since I was born many people have told me this and some have even threatened me so I'm not too scared or adverse to the idea lol.

[Maddie]

Just now, tianzhang said:

I mean I'd have to quit the internal arts in general then wouldn't I?

 

I'm a TCM practitioner not an internal arts master so I'm not really qualified to say. I like Yin yoga. 

[Gerard]

12 hours ago, Cobie said:

 

 

Please first see your GP.

 

 

See never the GP.

 

Please refer to:

 

http://www.shen-nong.com/eng/exam/diagnosis_sixmeridians.html

 

Internal energetics are very complex.
 

Edited December 13 by Gerard

[Gerard]

4 hours ago, tianzhang said:

He did! I am taking them, the problem is whenever I train it seems like my pelvic floor is constantly tightening up for some reason

Lifestyle pattern set over years/decades of poor habit; eg. study while seated on a chair for many hours a day; inactivity; excessive masturbation which blocks meridians in the pelvic floor, etc.

 

Are you an stagnant animal; eg Water Rabbit or a fast moving one; eg Fire Tiger.

 

You need to take into account many factors before making a correct diagnosis.

 

Also no amount of herbs and needles will correct the problem, they are only a temporal fix.

 

Grounding work and Ba Gua Zhang is a wonderful tool that fixes everything. But a lot of work is retired over years of practice in order to undo, remove and rewire the whole system. 
 

 

 

 

[tianzhang]

6 hours ago, Gerard said:

Lifestyle pattern set over years/decades of poor habit; eg. study while seated on a chair for many hours a day; inactivity; excessive masturbation which blocks meridians in the pelvic floor, etc.

 

Are you an stagnant animal; eg Water Rabbit or a fast moving one; eg Fire Tiger.

 

You need to take into account many factors before making a correct diagnosis.

 

Also no amount of herbs and needles will correct the problem, they are only a temporal fix.

 

Grounding work and Ba Gua Zhang is a wonderful tool that fixes everything. But a lot of work is retired over years of practice in order to undo, remove and rewire the whole system. 
 

 

 

 

That's the issue is that whenever I practice my Baguazhang forms, sometimes they are okay but other time it causes extreme tightness.

[Gerard]

We know nothing about you to make an accurate assessment:

 

1. How do you practice the art? 
 

Tense or relaxed 

 

2. Is you form correct?

 

3. Do you spend more time doing foundation work than circle walking? It should be that way. You can't build a house on a weak foundation as it will collapse. 

 

4. Lifestyle 

 

5. Diet

 

6. Sexual activity. 

 

7. Year of birth, eg. if you are a Wood Dragon BGZ is not recommended. An Earth & Metal art like Xingyi Quan would be more suitable.

Edited December 15 by Gerard

[tianzhang]

24 minutes ago, Gerard said:

We know nothing about you to make an accurate assessment:

 

1. How do you practice the art? 
 

Tense or relaxed 

 

2. Is you form correct?

 

3. Do you spend more time doing foundation work than circle walking? It should be that way. You can't build a house on a weak foundation as it will collapse. 

 

4. Lifestyle 

 

5. Diet

 

6. Sexual activity. 

 

7. Year of birth, eg. if you are a Wood Dragon BGZ is not recommended. An Earth & Metal art like Xingyi Quan would be more suitable.

1. I try to be relaxed, as possible the tenseness usually comes from feeling like theres a wave traveling down my spine then shooting up.

2. I am practicing with a teacher, so I hope so! He saids it's mostly correct only differences are basically when my body is at it's limit and can't go as wide as he'd like it.

3. My style of Baguazhang doesn't have too much foundation work, but I do the stretches and strengthening exercise my teacher prescribes.

4. Pretty active as my job involves physical labor, alot of depression and suicidal tendencies though.

5. Mostly meats but frequent amount of sugars through the week like two- three times.

6. None, I am not very good looking lol.

7. I am a Metal snake.

[DynamicEquilibrium]

On 13/12/2024 at 6:13 AM, tianzhang said:

Hi everyone it's me again, so I went to a Chinese medical doctor who also practices Chinese martial arts and has proper lineage. It turns out I have Taiyang/Shaoyang disorder, and my kidneys can't move qi down and possibly some issues with my liver ( no it's not a jing or yin deficiency according to him) any advice to help? Anyone experienced anything similar?

 

If you need another type of diagnosis i can redirect you to a Taoist medecine practitioner, otherwise as someone said it is maybe better to stick to this doctor's advices/prescriptions.

 

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Year of birth, eg. if you are a Wood Dragon BGZ is not recommended. An Earth & Metal art like Xingyi Quan would be more suitabl

 

To design a highly individualized practice a full picture is needed, year of birth tells absolutely nothing about such full picture, the four pillars and  the big cycle a bit more, but still not enough. Baguazhang or any other types of martial arts, Qigong etc effects would be very limited as long as it is not integrated within a broader tailor made "Life treatment program" designed according to individual caracteristics.

 

Edited December 15 by DynamicEquilibrium

[tianzhang]

10 hours ago, DynamicEquilibrium said:

 

If you need another type of diagnosis i can redirect you to a Taoist medecine practitioner, otherwise as someone said it is maybe better to stick to this doctor's advices/prescriptions.

 

 

To design a highly individualized practice a full picture is needed, year of birth tells absolutely nothing about such full picture, the four pillars and  the big cycle a bit more, but still not enough. Baguazhang or any other types of martial arts, Qigong etc effects would be very limited as long as it is not integrated within a broader tailor made "Life treatment program" designed according to individual caracteristics.

 

1. Sure, would love to get it for future reference.

2. How do you get such a reading? I got a natal chart reading once but it didn't say anything too accurate and said my life intention is to 'regain my health and not focus on frivolous things."

[-ꦥꦏ꧀ ꦱꦠꦿꦶꦪꦺꦴ-]

On 13/12/2024 at 7:03 PM, Maddie said:

 

I'm a TCM practitioner not an internal arts master so I'm not really qualified to say. I like Yin yoga. 

Yin yoga is amazing 

[DynamicEquilibrium]

9 hours ago, tianzhang said:

1. Sure, would love to get it for future reference.

2. How do you get such a reading? I got a natal chart reading once but it didn't say anything too accurate and said my life intention is to 'regain my health and not focus on frivolous things."

Send me a message when you feel like. 

 

They would apply different skills rooted in the Yinyang five elements system. 

Most of time natal chart reading is applied as a separated technic, so it can sounds like fortune telling. 

 

 

[Gerard]

On 15/12/2024 at 3:50 PM, tianzhang said:

3. My style of Baguazhang doesn't have too much foundation work, but I do the stretches and strengthening exercise my teacher prescribes.

 

Hmm. Foundation work actually nourishes the Kidney though. It would be very beneficial for you.

 

Refer to He Jinghan YouTube channel for such work.

 

On 15/12/2024 at 3:50 PM, tianzhang said:

4. Pretty active as my job involves physical labor, alot of depression and suicidal tendencies though.
 

 

BGZ long term practice will take care of that as HEART (Fire) blood stagnation is the main culprit. 

 

On 15/12/2024 at 3:50 PM, tianzhang said:

 

5. Mostly meats but frequent amount of sugars through the week like two- three times.

 

You need to fix that. A high amount of sugar will place excessive amount of stress on the Kidney since sweet is associated with Earth and Earth controls Water (Kidney).

 

On 15/12/2024 at 3:50 PM, tianzhang said:

7. I am a Metal snake.

 

If you have a lot of Earth in your Ba Zi chart there's trouble for you this year since Dragon is an Earth animal.  
 

Earth controls (dries) the Kidney force. 
 

When Earth is too dominant, it can bury the Metal element, and therefore Metal loses the ability to nourish the Kidney. 

 

Earth is associated with the sweet taste.
 

Supplement your diet with Goji berries as they can be taken with regular food. This particular herb nourishes the Kidney and the Jing. Take it on a daily basis until this Dragon year is over. 

 

Also, reduce sugar intake and avoid sweet foods as much as possible.

When Earth is too dominant, it will absorb and dry up the Water force. This leads to problems with the bladder, kidneys and the urinary system. Drink plenty of water.

When Earth is too dominant, it may lead to a lack of motivation and hinder overall health. Engaging in outdoor activities, spending time in green areas, parks, and forests, and breathing in fresh air are advisable. Stay away from polluted areas as much as possible.

 

 

Good luck
 

[Maddie]

I know I said it the other day but I don't think this is a really a Kidney issue, I think it is a heat issue. 

[Gerard]

It could be HEAT too if he does a lot of physical labour.
 

Fire evaporates water

 

Which according to the Wu Xing falls under the "reverse or deficient destructive cycle."

 

He also needs to bear in mind his constellation sign as Fire signs need to be careful with not depleting their Jing too quickly as ageing will occur at a faster rate. This applies to Aries, Leo .& Sagittarius primarily but Scorpio need to be careful as well since they're driven by desire. 

 

Also:

 

https://www.mastertsai.com/ChineseAstrology/Chineseastrology.htm
 

https://www.geomancy.net/content/products-services/ba-zi-analysis/about-ba-zi/free-ba-zi

 

This second tool provides a better advice regarding favourable and unfavourable directions.

 

 

Edited December 17 by Gerard

[Gerard]

I didn't realise it was you who recently opened this other thread:

 

 

I missed the part where you stated the following:

 

There are no Eight Mother Palms the the BGZ system I'm learning, which is Yin style.

 

My teacher is very focused on form and MA training.

 

On the other hand, you are saying in this thread: 

 

I do a physical labour for a living.

 

You are very Yin, Metal Snake, even when this animal is ruled by Fire but you were born in a negative and descending year (2001, Yin Metal).

 

Because you are experiencing conflict this year triggered by Wood controlling Earth (Wood Dragon), follow the dietary advice I gave you, ZERO SWEETS, and also the TCM practitioner advised you to stop focusing on static work and more moving one. HE IS CORRECT HERE and I also advice you doing the same plus;

 

Go find another BGZ teacher.

 

Any BGZ system without true core of the art being the 8MP is no true BGZ since you will be inheriting a half-baked system.

HJH's foundation work would be very beneficial to you as stated already severely times. It is ver demanding bit worth a tone of gold.

 

Find a BGZ teacher that is focused around the 8MP.

 

As Maddie stated as well you may have triggered a lot of HEAT due to:

 

1. Anxiety

2. Lifestyle ---> physical labour

3. Focus on static postures & zi fa gong 

4. Too many expectations 

 

Relax and enjoy learning BGZ from scratch in the park amongst the trees. This is how I learnt it myself got several years under my teacher's guidance.

 

So for now, take a break and put your effort in finding a better BGZ teacher that teaches the 8MP.

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Gerard]

You also created this other thread recently:

 

 

You come from a very abusive family environment, and expect to heal yourself after 1.5 years of BGZ practice? 

 

BGZ is currently doing its good job at slowing resetting your ENTIRE ENERGETIC SYSTEM.
 

Let's be realistic here, you must understand that what you are going through is all part of a realignment and healing process and this takes time.

 

Expect pain while you heal yourself.

 

It happened to me many times and one was near life-threatening (sudden release of heat in the gallbladder meridian running along the head). 

 

You need to find a teacher that is more focused on the internal aspect of the art and a Taoist practitioner themselves.

 

A practice that is GENTLE, RELAXED, PEACEFUL and WARM in nature.

 

Be easy with yourself because healing from childhood trauma requires a lot of work.

 

I hope this helps

 

 

 

 

Edited December 17 by Gerard

[tianzhang]

21 hours ago, Gerard said:

You also created this other thread recently:

 

 

You come from a very abusive family environment, and expect to heal yourself after 1.5 years of BGZ practice? 

 

BGZ is currently doing its good job at slowing resetting your ENTIRE ENERGETIC SYSTEM.
 

Let's be realistic here, you must understand that what you are going through is all part of a realignment and healing process and this takes time.

 

Expect pain while you heal yourself.

 

It happened to me many times and one was near life-threatening (sudden release of heat in the gallbladder meridian running along the head). 

 

You need to find a teacher that is more focused on the internal aspect of the art and a Taoist practitioner themselves.

 

A practice that is GENTLE, RELAXED, PEACEFUL and WARM in nature.

 

Be easy with yourself because healing from childhood trauma requires a lot of work.

 

I hope this helps

 

 

 

 

I don't expect to heal myself immediately but I feel like the more I am training, the more stagnation I am making. I am soemwhat afraid I have a yin deficiency but I trust my Dr's diagnosis and my tongue pattern doesn't match.

I just don't want to quit or give up training otherwise I am okay with my progress needing some time to train.

[Gerard]

This type of circle walking will heal you completely:

 

 

1. Hold only one Palm

2. Do as many rotations as you like on one side and then switch over and repeat the same amount. I used to use a timer to prevent counting circles as it's too easy to miss the count. 
3. Practice preferably in a park amongst the trees and if possible next to a water source (creek, lake, pond, etc.).

 

[Cobie]

20 hours ago, Gerard said:

This type of circle walking will heal you completely …

Knees must be kept in line with the toes to avoid damaging the knees, that’s hard to do when walking tiny circles. So imo best to never do any “circle walking”. 

 

 

Edited December 20 by Cobie

[Cobie]

14 hours ago, Gerard said:

This type of circle walking …

Imo:

 

When scripture said to ‘walk around’, it did not refer to ‘walking around in tiny circles’. 
 

Walking around, referred to ‘walking about’. It was referring to the fact that after the initial learning phase, further practice can be done whilst ‘walking about’ during your day, whilst doing your daily business’.
 

 

Edited December 19 by Cobie

[Cobie]

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Edited December 19 by Cobie

[ChiDragon]

15 hours ago, Gerard said:

This type of circle walking will heal you completely:

 

 

2. Do as many rotations as you like on one side and then switch over and repeat the same amount. I used to use a timer to prevent counting circles as it's too easy to miss the count. 
 

Counting the circles is just a number, but actually, it is the movement that really counts!

[Cobie]

@Keith108 

When walking, standing, sitting, lying down, speaking, 
being silent, moving, being still. 
At all times, in all places, without interruption - what is this? 
One mind is infinite kalpas.
 

your signature reminded me of this post:

On 19/12/2024 at 7:52 PM, Cobie said:

… after the initial learning phase, further practice can be done whilst ‘walking about’ during your day, whilst doing your daily business’.

 

 

Edited December 22 by Cobie

[Keith108]

27 minutes ago, Cobie said:

@Keith108 

When walking, standing, sitting, lying down, speaking, 
being silent, moving, being still. 
At all times, in all places, without interruption - what is this? 
One mind is infinite kalpas.
 

your signature reminded me of this post:

 

 

Thanks for the tag on this interesting thread. And, the interesting BGZ perspective about circling. 

 

My Buddhist practice is standard hwadu practice, as used in Seon Buddhism (Korean). The quote (minus the last line) was often used by Ta Hui, a Song era Chan Master.