Sir Darius the Clairvoyent Posted Wednesday at 08:34 AM (edited) (This will not be completely PC, but I’ll back up the more sensitive issues with references) The standard narrative Humans left Africa around 80-60k years ago. Nothing much happened until agriculture developed 9-6k years ago, culminating with the first civilization: Sumer. Agriculture then, suppousedly developed independently in the America’s, Indus Valley and China as well (and a few possible other candidates. Humans didn’t move around much, but tech and culture spread primarily through trade. People willingly adopted agriculture as it was somehow superior to a hunter gatherer lifestyle, and then then the ball just kept rolling: and here we are, peak civ and high art: (A little bit of a straw man, but in essence, I believe there is some truth to it). Reconsidering the past of our spieces During the 1800s, Homo sapiens were belived to be around 10.000-20.000 years old. During the middle of the 20th century, this got pushed back to ca. 50.000 years, due to the discovery of cro magnons and Neanderthals. At this point, humans were belived to have evolved primarily or exclusively in Europe. From between the 60s-80s, this got pushed back to 130.000 - 200.000 years ago, based on some archeological and genetic evidence, and this time we our ancestral home got put to east africa, Ethiopia in particular. Finds such as Jerbel Irhound, pushed this even further back, this time 300.000 years in Marocco. Humans suppousedly left Africa about 60.000 years ago. Scholars such as David Reich, no believe that there has been multiple migrations both out and in of Africa. One piece of evidence supporting this, is that Homo sapiens Ydna replaced the Neanderthal one, at least 100.000 years ago (1). Further more, we know that humans lived all over eurasia for at least a million years. In addition to this, we keep discovering new spieces: denisovians, homo florencis, naledi and so on (2). There have also been fascinating evidence suggesting humans might have lived in the America’s as far back as 120.000 years ago (3). Allthough consensus remains that human evolution mostly took part in Africa, this has become way more nuanced over the last few years, and Eurasia has increasingly been seen as a major player in human evolution. Instead of looking at human evolution as a tree, we should view it more of a weave. The most obvious proof of this is the fact that all non Africans carry 2-4% Neanderthal dna. According to Reich, the number of Neanderthal ancestors might be as high as 10-20% (note: percentage of ancestors ≠ amount of dna). We also know that some populations carry dna from speicies so far unknown (ghost populations). «According to a study published in 2020, there are indications that 2% to 19% (or about ≃6.6 and ≃7.0%) of the DNA of four West African populations may have come from an unknown archaic hominin which split from the ancestor of Sapiens (Modern Humans) and Neanderthals between 360 kya to 1.02 mya.» (4) The cognitive revolution, if it indeed is real, didn’t take place until 40.000 years ago. Population replacements - tech, culture and language traveled primarily with people, not trough trade I’ll stick to Europe as it’s what I am most familiar with, but believe me, there is plenty of material. 400.000-40.000 yo neanderthals 45.000-40.000 yo anatomical modern humans 40.000-26.000 yo aurognacians 30.000 - 20.000 yo gravettians 20.000 yo - 10.000 yo western hunter gatherers 10.000-5.000 anatolion farmers 5.000 yo - indo europeans Allthough all Europeans are a mix of the three latter, to various degree, the change was far from peaceful (5). Long distance, human travel Here are a few, confirmed ones, prior Columbus: - polynesia to South America - the silk road - Vikings in the America’s - closely related individuals has been found as far apart as Hungary and Mongolia during the Bronze Age (was unable to find the study, ref Reich). - the aboriginal Australians, 50k years ago - relatively modern explores (such has Heyerdahl) has shown that cross ocean travel was fairly straight foward with relative primitive tech The younger dryas Was an apologolypatic event; I quote from wiki: Quote The Younger Dryas (YD, Greenland Stadial GS-1)[2] was a period in Earth's geologic history that occurred circa 12,900 to 11,700 years Before Present (BP).[3] It is primarily known for the sudden or "abrupt" cooling in the Northern Hemisphere, when the North Atlantic Ocean cooled and annual air temperatures decreased by ~3 °C (5.4 °F) over North America, 2–6 °C (3.6–10.8 °F) in Europe and up to 10 °C (18 °F) in Greenland, in a few decades.[4] Cooling in Greenland was particularly rapid, taking place over just 3 years or less.[1][5] At the same time, the Southern Hemisphere experienced warming.[4][6] This period ended as rapidly as it began, with dramatic warming over ~50 years, which transitioned the Earth from the glacial Pleistocene epoch into the current Holocene.[1] This coincides with to extremely interesting events: goebekli Tepe and Plato’s date for Atlantis. Goebleki tepe was deliberately buried. Before this, there has been found zero, recognized evidence of civilization. So… is it time to reconsider the standard narrative? Facts, legend and narrative My argument goes along the lines of this: weather it is based on fact or not, humans put them into a narrative regardless. Let’s take the foundation stories of Norway, the US and Israel. They all probally contain some degree of truth, and a lot of exaggeration. But does it really matter whether Harald Fairhair got rejected by a woman who didn’t want to marry a petty king, so he decided to not cut his hair until he united all of Norway? To me it doesn’t. Further more, I believe myth and stories contain a lot of truth in a deeper sense. (1) https://www.science.org/content/article/how-neanderthals-lost-their-y-chromosome (2) https://www.theguardian.com/science/2023/nov/18/where-did-other-human-species-go-vanished-ancestors-homo-sapiens-neanderthals-denisovans (3) https://www.sciencenews.org/article/first-settlers-reached-americas-130000-years-ago-study-claims (4) https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC7015685/ (5) https://sciencenews.dk/en/100-ancient-skeletons-reveal-dramatic-turnover-of-denmarks-population https://www.independent.co.uk/news/science/archaeology/stonehenge-neolithic-britain-history-ancestors-plague-archaeology-beaker-people-a8222341.html https://www.newscientist.com/article/2180923-every-man-in-spain-was-wiped-out-4500-years-ago-by-hostile-invaders/ Edited Wednesday at 11:04 AM by Sir Darius the Clairvoyent Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
