Sinai Posted December 18 Hello Everyone how are you? i hope everyone is fine. The goal for creating this topic is to know how to contact master Wang Liping of Dragon gate Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jenn Posted December 18 You could contact one of his senior students who are publicly teaching like Nathan Brine? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sinai Posted December 19 16 hours ago, Jenn said: You could contact one of his senior students who are publicly teaching like Nathan Brine? he does not reply neither in Facebook nor in his email, any other ways ? or any other senior students ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jenn Posted December 19 No, sorry! I suspect you won't be able to contact him directly - it's very possible he doesn't work with the public or accept new students anymore. Likely just senior students and maybe retreats now that there are seniors to teach new students. That's just my assumption though. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sinai Posted December 20 20 hours ago, Jenn said: No, sorry! I suspect you won't be able to contact him directly - it's very possible he doesn't work with the public or accept new students anymore. Likely just senior students and maybe retreats now that there are seniors to teach new students. That's just my assumption though. yOU GOT TO BE KIDDING ME 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
-ꦥꦏ꧀ ꦱꦠꦿꦶꦪꦺꦴ- Posted December 20 17 minutes ago, Sinai said: yOU GOT TO BE KIDDING ME What do you expect? That any person just off the street can just get a meeting? He’s a busy guy 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sinai Posted December 20 8 minutes ago, -ꦥꦏ꧀ ꦱꦠꦿꦶꦪꦺꦴ- said: What do you expect? That any person just off the street can just get a meeting? He’s a busy guy Well Yes, i know he is a busy person and i don't expect him to see me easily, but i have this trainings here: Practice of the Three Transcendents. Here is a detailed list and Descriptions of the Practice: Practice of Three Transcendents Practice of theThreeTranscendents (sanxian gong) is the main body of the alchemical work. It is the private oral teaching associated with Lti Dongbins alchemical classic Lingbao bifa. Practice of Three Transcendents is divided into three vehicles, ten gates, and forty-five methods. The Practice of Human Transcendence Furnace is the body. Medicine is qi. Fire is the heart. Water is the kidneys. Cultivates Life Force {minggong . 1. Pairing of Yin and Yang i. The Yang Embryo and the Yin Breath ii. True Embryo Breathing iii. Pairing of Kan and Li 2. Gathering and Dispersing the Water and Fire i. The True Qi Contained in the Original Union of Yin and Yang ii. I he Lesser Refining of the Form iii. Celestial Youth 3. Copulation of the Dragon and Tiger i. Gather and Nourish the Reverted Elixir ii. Foster the Transcendent Embryo iii. Water and Fire, Kan and Li iv. The True Husband and Wife v. Exchange the Qi, not the Form 4. Refine the Medicine for the Elixir i. Fire Phasing ii. Lesser Celestial Circuit iii. Fire Phasing for the Celestial Circuit iv. Gather Shen to Nourish Qi v. Gather Qi to Nourish Shen vi. Refine Yang to Nourish Shen The Practice of Earthly Transcendence Furnace is spirit. Medicine is qi. Fire is the sun. Water is the moon. Cultivates Life Force (minggong ). 5. Flying the Golden Crystals Behind the Elbows i. Revert Essence to Nourish the Brain ii. Initiate the River Chariot iii. Copulation of the Dragon and Tiger iv. Decrease Lead, Increase Mercury v. Revert to Youth from Old Age 6. Reverted Elixir of Jade Liquid i. Jade Liquid Refines the Talisman ii. Bathing and Cleansing the Transcendent Embryo iii. The Lesser Reverted Elixir iv. The Greater Reverted Elixir v. The Seven-Returned Elixir vi. The Nine-Revolved Elixir 7. Reverted Elixir of Golden Liquid i. Golden Elixir Refines the Talismanic Form ii. Ignite the Alchemic Flame Setting the Body on Fire iii. Ihe Golden Flower and the Jade Dew iv. Greater Kan and Li v. The Method of Yellow and White The Practice of Celestial Transcendence Furnace is spirit. Medicine is inner nature. Fire is wisdom. Water is stability. Cultivates Inner Nature {xinggong \§LS))). 8. Refine Qi to have an Audience with the Origin i. Transcend the Inner Courtyard ii. Refine Qi to Complete the Form iii. Ihe Purple and Golden Elixir iv. Scorch and Refine the Yang Shen v. Ihe Three Blossomings Accumulate on the Top of the Head 9. Inner Observation of the Exchange i. Collect the Yang Shen ii. Fire that Reaches to Heaven iii. Exchange the Ordinary with the Transcendent iv. True Emptiness v. Entering the Celestial Kingdom 10. Liberation from Form i. Enter the Formless ii. Cast Off the Material and Transcend iii. Transcend the Ordinary and Enter the Sacred here take a deep look to these beautiful High-level practices. Wang Liping teaches these and i want to learn these practices. take a look and give me your idea Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
-ꦥꦏ꧀ ꦱꦠꦿꦶꦪꦺꦴ- Posted December 20 43 minutes ago, Sinai said: Well Yes, i know he is a busy person and i don't expect him to see me easily, but i have this trainings here: Practice of the Three Transcendents. Here is a detailed list and Descriptions of the Practice: Practice of Three Transcendents Practice of theThreeTranscendents (sanxian gong) is the main body of the alchemical work. It is the private oral teaching associated with Lti Dongbins alchemical classic Lingbao bifa. Practice of Three Transcendents is divided into three vehicles, ten gates, and forty-five methods. The Practice of Human Transcendence Furnace is the body. Medicine is qi. Fire is the heart. Water is the kidneys. Cultivates Life Force {minggong . 1. Pairing of Yin and Yang i. The Yang Embryo and the Yin Breath ii. True Embryo Breathing iii. Pairing of Kan and Li 2. Gathering and Dispersing the Water and Fire i. The True Qi Contained in the Original Union of Yin and Yang ii. I he Lesser Refining of the Form iii. Celestial Youth 3. Copulation of the Dragon and Tiger i. Gather and Nourish the Reverted Elixir ii. Foster the Transcendent Embryo iii. Water and Fire, Kan and Li iv. The True Husband and Wife v. Exchange the Qi, not the Form 4. Refine the Medicine for the Elixir i. Fire Phasing ii. Lesser Celestial Circuit iii. Fire Phasing for the Celestial Circuit iv. Gather Shen to Nourish Qi v. Gather Qi to Nourish Shen vi. Refine Yang to Nourish Shen The Practice of Earthly Transcendence Furnace is spirit. Medicine is qi. Fire is the sun. Water is the moon. Cultivates Life Force (minggong ). 5. Flying the Golden Crystals Behind the Elbows i. Revert Essence to Nourish the Brain ii. Initiate the River Chariot iii. Copulation of the Dragon and Tiger iv. Decrease Lead, Increase Mercury v. Revert to Youth from Old Age 6. Reverted Elixir of Jade Liquid i. Jade Liquid Refines the Talisman ii. Bathing and Cleansing the Transcendent Embryo iii. The Lesser Reverted Elixir iv. The Greater Reverted Elixir v. The Seven-Returned Elixir vi. The Nine-Revolved Elixir 7. Reverted Elixir of Golden Liquid i. Golden Elixir Refines the Talismanic Form ii. Ignite the Alchemic Flame Setting the Body on Fire iii. Ihe Golden Flower and the Jade Dew iv. Greater Kan and Li v. The Method of Yellow and White The Practice of Celestial Transcendence Furnace is spirit. Medicine is inner nature. Fire is wisdom. Water is stability. Cultivates Inner Nature {xinggong \§LS))). 8. Refine Qi to have an Audience with the Origin i. Transcend the Inner Courtyard ii. Refine Qi to Complete the Form iii. Ihe Purple and Golden Elixir iv. Scorch and Refine the Yang Shen v. Ihe Three Blossomings Accumulate on the Top of the Head 9. Inner Observation of the Exchange i. Collect the Yang Shen ii. Fire that Reaches to Heaven iii. Exchange the Ordinary with the Transcendent iv. True Emptiness v. Entering the Celestial Kingdom 10. Liberation from Form i. Enter the Formless ii. Cast Off the Material and Transcend iii. Transcend the Ordinary and Enter the Sacred here take a deep look to these beautiful High-level practices. Wang Liping teaches these and i want to learn these practices. take a look and give me your idea Easy, the solution is to find someone from his lineage and learn from them 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sinai Posted December 20 47 minutes ago, -ꦥꦏ꧀ ꦱꦠꦿꦶꦪꦺꦴ- said: Easy, the solution is to find someone from his lineage and learn from them The Problem is i know no one you know anybody ? Nathan brine is not answering he just writes books but does not teach these, can you find any from his lineage so i can contact with ? i know no one except nathan brine Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
-ꦥꦏ꧀ ꦱꦠꦿꦶꦪꦺꦴ- Posted December 20 1 hour ago, Sinai said: The Problem is i know no one you know anybody ? Nathan brine is not answering he just writes books but does not teach these, can you find any from his lineage so i can contact with ? i know no one except nathan brine He does teach. If you want to learn, you have to pay. 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sinai Posted December 20 7 minutes ago, -ꦥꦏ꧀ ꦱꦠꦿꦶꦪꦺꦴ- said: He does teach. If you want to learn, you have to pay. really ? that is awesome great so how can i get in touch with him ? he doesn't reply Facebook. i have no problems to pay Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
-ꦥꦏ꧀ ꦱꦠꦿꦶꦪꦺꦴ- Posted December 20 48 minutes ago, Sinai said: really ? that is awesome great so how can i get in touch with him ? he doesn't reply Facebook. i have no problems to pay Here: https://online.nathanbrine.com/ 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sinai Posted December 20 1 hour ago, -ꦥꦏ꧀ ꦱꦠꦿꦶꦪꦺꦴ- said: Here: https://online.nathanbrine.com/ Dude i know these practices already, they are not yinxian methods just alchemy not the three immortals practices. he never mentioned them on these courses, none of them. i said read the trainings very carefully they ae 10 gates 45 methods are seperated from other trainings the process is different Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sinai Posted December 20 (edited) 5 hours ago, -ꦥꦏ꧀ ꦱꦠꦿꦶꦪꦺꦴ- said: What do you expect? That any person just off the street can just get a meeting? He’s a busy guy 1 hour ago, -ꦥꦏ꧀ ꦱꦠꦿꦶꦪꦺꦴ- said: Here: https://online.nathanbrine.com/ Dude you even didn't read what i said, i said read very carefully then read the link which you sent, just don't post any links blindly without any proper attention. Those online courses are irrelevant maybe except the refining Jing to Chi one Edited December 20 by Sinai Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jenn Posted December 20 The practices you are interested in won't work for someone who hasn't done the preliminary work, they require a strong foundation. At best they will be ineffective, and some will be harmful. It is unlikely that any teacher will give you advanced practices when they don't know you and you haven't completed any of the foundational work within the lineage (from the link you were given). Likely the only path will be to practice honestly from the beginning within the lineage and work your way up over time until you are accepted as an advanced or "inner door" student. It's probably not the answer you were hoping for, but I honestly think that will give you the best chance of learning them. Unless you have spent years already training with a teacher respected by Wang Liping already who can vouch for you, there probably isn't a way to fast-track (nor should there be, if I am being honest). 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sinai Posted December 20 7 minutes ago, Jenn said: The practices you are interested in won't work for someone who hasn't done the preliminary work, they require a strong foundation. At best they will be ineffective, and some will be harmful. It is unlikely that any teacher will give you advanced practices when they don't know you and you haven't completed any of the foundational work within the lineage (from the link you were given). Likely the only path will be to practice honestly from the beginning within the lineage and work your way up over time until you are accepted as an advanced or "inner door" student. It's probably not the answer you were hoping for, but I honestly think that will give you the best chance of learning them. Unless you have spent years already training with a teacher respected by Wang Liping already who can vouch for you, there probably isn't a way to fast-track (nor should there be, if I am being honest). Thanks, i enjoyed your answer well yeah yes you are right. the thing is the next year it will be 20 year which i am into cultivation, i know and understand your concern about the Foundations and etc but bro you don't know me and i am not looking for a fast track i am looking for a teacher who knows these practices and guide me through the very foundations and beginnings until the end. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sinai Posted December 20 16 minutes ago, Jenn said: The practices you are interested in won't work for someone who hasn't done the preliminary work, they require a strong foundation. At best they will be ineffective, and some will be harmful. It is unlikely that any teacher will give you advanced practices when they don't know you and you haven't completed any of the foundational work within the lineage (from the link you were given). Likely the only path will be to practice honestly from the beginning within the lineage and work your way up over time until you are accepted as an advanced or "inner door" student. It's probably not the answer you were hoping for, but I honestly think that will give you the best chance of learning them. Unless you have spent years already training with a teacher respected by Wang Liping already who can vouch for you, there probably isn't a way to fast-track (nor should there be, if I am being honest). also i have three books of taoist alchemy of wang liping and i am practicing them so i am familiar with foundations Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jenn Posted December 20 Apologies, I didn't mean to imply you don't have any experience, I assumed since you were asking here instead of within the community that you were new to the system. That is a tricky situation, I think it can be hard to enter a lineage self-taught unless you start back from the beginning with a teacher. But if it is meant to be, you'll find a way 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
-ꦥꦏ꧀ ꦱꦠꦿꦶꦪꦺꦴ- Posted December 21 14 hours ago, Sinai said: Dude you even didn't read what i said, i said read very carefully then read the link which you sent, just don't post any links blindly without any proper attention. Those online courses are irrelevant maybe except the refining Jing to Chi one If you don’t want help I will stop giving it. You need to complete these ones before you get to the higher stuff. I’m not helping you anymore, you are on your own. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sinai Posted December 21 3 hours ago, -ꦥꦏ꧀ ꦱꦠꦿꦶꦪꦺꦴ- said: If you don’t want help I will stop giving it. You need to complete these ones before you get to the higher stuff. I’m not helping you anymore, you are on your own. No please don't be angry, sorry and my apologies. please help me i need every help i can get thank you Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sinai Posted December 21 5 hours ago, -ꦥꦏ꧀ ꦱꦠꦿꦶꦪꦺꦴ- said: If you don’t want help I will stop giving it. You need to complete these ones before you get to the higher stuff. I’m not helping you anymore, you are on your own. This is not a virtuous manner mate Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bruce Qi Posted December 21 buy the nathan brine wang liping books and work your way through them , dont even bother contacting or paying for brines courses as he doesnt even bother with his own group on his website. He seemed like a good guy at first but im now starting to think the books and the courses are just to bring in the cash nhence why he doubled the price of the books and hugely increased the price of the courses. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sinai Posted December 21 47 minutes ago, Bruce Qi said: buy the nathan brine wang liping books and work your way through them , dont even bother contacting or paying for brines courses as he doesnt even bother with his own group on his website. He seemed like a good guy at first but I'm now starting to think the books and the courses are just to bring in the cash nhence why he doubled the price of the books and hugely increased the price of the courses. oh really ?! i didn't know that...i have all his three books, i emailed him twice but i received no answer...that's why i ask everyone to pay attention very carefully, because i knew something is not right. he even doesn't answer his Facebook comments to get proper advice. i asked him wang liping contacts or how we can learn from him ? he never answered i also asked him about his own training about yinxian three immortals practice but still he didnt answer me, so in discord he doesn't answer you right ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Neirong Posted December 21 On 20.12.2024 at 2:32 PM, Sinai said: Well Yes, i know he is a busy person and i don't expect him to see me easily, but i have this trainings here: Practice of the Three Transcendents. Here is a detailed list and Descriptions of the Practice: Practice of Three Transcendents Practice of theThreeTranscendents (sanxian gong) is the main body of the alchemical work. It is the private oral teaching associated with Lti Dongbins alchemical classic Lingbao bifa. Practice of Three Transcendents is divided into three vehicles, ten gates, and forty-five methods. The Practice of Human Transcendence Furnace is the body. Medicine is qi. Fire is the heart. Water is the kidneys. Cultivates Life Force {minggong . 1. Pairing of Yin and Yang i. The Yang Embryo and the Yin Breath ii. True Embryo Breathing iii. Pairing of Kan and Li 2. Gathering and Dispersing the Water and Fire i. The True Qi Contained in the Original Union of Yin and Yang ii. I he Lesser Refining of the Form iii. Celestial Youth 3. Copulation of the Dragon and Tiger i. Gather and Nourish the Reverted Elixir ii. Foster the Transcendent Embryo iii. Water and Fire, Kan and Li iv. The True Husband and Wife v. Exchange the Qi, not the Form 4. Refine the Medicine for the Elixir i. Fire Phasing ii. Lesser Celestial Circuit iii. Fire Phasing for the Celestial Circuit iv. Gather Shen to Nourish Qi v. Gather Qi to Nourish Shen vi. Refine Yang to Nourish Shen The Practice of Earthly Transcendence Furnace is spirit. Medicine is qi. Fire is the sun. Water is the moon. Cultivates Life Force (minggong ). 5. Flying the Golden Crystals Behind the Elbows i. Revert Essence to Nourish the Brain ii. Initiate the River Chariot iii. Copulation of the Dragon and Tiger iv. Decrease Lead, Increase Mercury v. Revert to Youth from Old Age 6. Reverted Elixir of Jade Liquid i. Jade Liquid Refines the Talisman ii. Bathing and Cleansing the Transcendent Embryo iii. The Lesser Reverted Elixir iv. The Greater Reverted Elixir v. The Seven-Returned Elixir vi. The Nine-Revolved Elixir 7. Reverted Elixir of Golden Liquid i. Golden Elixir Refines the Talismanic Form ii. Ignite the Alchemic Flame Setting the Body on Fire iii. Ihe Golden Flower and the Jade Dew iv. Greater Kan and Li v. The Method of Yellow and White The Practice of Celestial Transcendence Furnace is spirit. Medicine is inner nature. Fire is wisdom. Water is stability. Cultivates Inner Nature {xinggong \§LS))). 8. Refine Qi to have an Audience with the Origin i. Transcend the Inner Courtyard ii. Refine Qi to Complete the Form iii. Ihe Purple and Golden Elixir iv. Scorch and Refine the Yang Shen v. Ihe Three Blossomings Accumulate on the Top of the Head 9. Inner Observation of the Exchange i. Collect the Yang Shen ii. Fire that Reaches to Heaven iii. Exchange the Ordinary with the Transcendent iv. True Emptiness v. Entering the Celestial Kingdom 10. Liberation from Form i. Enter the Formless ii. Cast Off the Material and Transcend iii. Transcend the Ordinary and Enter the Sacred here take a deep look to these beautiful High-level practices. Wang Liping teaches these and i want to learn these practices. take a look and give me your idea Having cute names for the practices is not - everything. I would personally judge based on tangible results people gain and how it transforms their being, not on how they name their practices.Cut off bullshit should be among the early stages of development a prospective awakened being goes through. At this stage people lose appeal to mysticality, copulating dragons and tigers, riding heavenly chariots, and entering reversed seventh elixir celestial kingdoms in search of purple flower of neverending stupidity. 3 hours ago, Sinai said: he even doesn't answer his Facebook comments to get proper advice Nobody is using Facebook in 2024/2025. It has been dead for a decade. They go there to advertise/sell courses. 4 hours ago, Bruce Qi said: just to bring in the cash nhence why he doubled the price of the books That is how I saw that as well, a quick cash grab. The first course curriculum teaches nothing but breathing. The lecture on third eye mentions nothing in relation to real third eye cultivation training. 2 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sinai Posted December 21 2 minutes ago, Neirong said: Having cute names for the practices is not - everything. I would personally judge based on tangible results people gain and how it transforms their being, not on how they name their practices.Cut off bullshit should be among the early stages of development a prospective awakened being goes through. At this stage people lose appeal to mysticality, copulating dragons and tigers, riding heavenly chariots, and entering reversed seventh elixir celestial kingdoms in search of purple flower of neverending stupidity. Nobody is using Facebook in 2024/2025. It has been dead for a decade. They go there to advertise/sell courses. That is how I saw that as well, a quick cash grab. The first course curriculum teaches nothing but breathing. The lecture on third eye mentions nothing in relation to real third eye cultivation training. This is horrible, so how can we get yinxian methods ? do you have access to any masters whom you can ask and research about these methods and how we can learn them ? if you can please do it Share this post Link to post Share on other sites