teacher Wang Liping Contact

[Sinai]

guys continue this discussion, let us Now get he senior students of wang liping and other contacts of wang liping  so everyone can contact them easily

[-ꦥꦏ꧀ ꦱꦠꦿꦶꦪꦺꦴ-]

6 minutes ago, Sinai said:

guys continue this discussion, let us Now get he senior students of wang liping and other contacts of wang liping  so everyone can contact them easily

Let’s say you manage to get their contacts, and then what? How will you convince them to teach you high level, inner door practices?

[Sinai]

33 minutes ago, -ꦥꦏ꧀ ꦱꦠꦿꦶꦪꦺꦴ- said:

Let’s say you manage to get their contacts, and then what? How will you convince them to teach you high level, inner door practices?

doesn't matter my dear friend, also it's not that much close door. i will think about the problems later, from paying to working with his specific desired pointed students until i reach the trusted student for them. but i don't think that causes much problems, first we need to find them then think of other problems, that's the number one priority

Edited December 23, 2024 by Sinai

[Jenn]

1 hour ago, Sinai said:

guys continue this discussion, let us Now get he senior students of wang liping and other contacts of wang liping  so everyone can contact them easily

I advise some caution and recommend you don't post the contacts publicly or share with others if you do find them unless you are given express permission from the people involved. 

 

There is a reason those individuals have not made their details publicly accessible themselves.

[Sinai]

3 minutes ago, Jenn said:

I advise some caution and recommend you don't post the contacts publicly or share with others if you do find them unless you are given express permission from the people involved. 

 

There is a reason those individuals have not made their details publicly accessible themselves.

okay my friend, sure i will do that, but i want: IF ANYONE HAS OTHER CONTACTS REGARDING MASTER WANG LIPING OR ANY OTHER HIS SENIOR STUNDETS DIRECT MESSAGE ME IN DAOBUMS THANK YOU 

[Sinai]

24 minutes ago, Jenn said:

I advise some caution and recommend you don't post the contacts publicly or share with others if you do find them unless you are given express permission from the people involved. 

 

There is a reason those individuals have not made their details publicly accessible themselves.

for any reasons that's not good to keep talented passionate students keep waiting and waiting for nothing. more students more money for them

[Jenn]

39 minutes ago, Sinai said:

for any reasons that's not good to keep talented passionate students keep waiting and waiting for nothing. more students more money for them

As long as you have the persons permission it's fine. I would think carefully about doing it if they do not give you permission though - respecting someone's privacy and wishes is important if you want to be trustworthy.

 

Another way to look at it is, you want to be trusted enough to be trained by these individuals, betraying their trust by sharing their personal details without their consent would be a poor way of repaying the gift you received of being able to contact them in the first place. It would be a shame to manage to find the contact information you want, only to be told no because you proved yourself untrustworthy.

 

They will likely just change their contacts anyway, at their expense and inconvenience.

 

Edit: Maybe I should share in case you have been lucky enough not to encounter some of the types of people who are interested in the internal arts. Lots are great people, but some can become belligerent, threatening, stalking, etc when they are told no or don't get what they want. Many publicly known teachers do not make themselves publicly accessible to avoid dealing with such people, to protect their families, etc. It's not all honest practitioners out there. Sharing contact information for someone who hasn't already made their details public will open them up to people who behave like what I described.

Edited December 23, 2024 by Jenn

[Sinai]

20 minutes ago, Jenn said:

As long as you have the persons permission it's fine. I would think carefully about doing it if they do not give you permission though - respecting someone's privacy and wishes is important if you want to be trustworthy.

 

Another way to look at it is, you want to be trusted enough to be trained by these individuals, betraying their trust by sharing their personal details without their consent would be a poor way of repaying the gift you received of being able to contact them in the first place. It would be a shame to manage to find the information you want, only to be told no because you proved yourself untrustworthy.

 

They will likely just change their contacts anyway, at their expense and inconvenience. 

my friend i know these, i didn't want to leak anything. anyway i didn't find anybody yet

Edited December 23, 2024 by Sinai

[Sinai]

3 hours ago, Jenn said:

As long as you have the persons permission it's fine. I would think carefully about doing it if they do not give you permission though - respecting someone's privacy and wishes is important if you want to be trustworthy.

 

Another way to look at it is, you want to be trusted enough to be trained by these individuals, betraying their trust by sharing their personal details without their consent would be a poor way of repaying the gift you received of being able to contact them in the first place. It would be a shame to manage to find the contact information you want, only to be told no because you proved yourself untrustworthy.

 

They will likely just change their contacts anyway, at their expense and inconvenience.

 

Edit: Maybe I should share in case you have been lucky enough not to encounter some of the types of people who are interested in the internal arts. Lots are great people, but some can become belligerent, threatening, stalking, etc when they are told no or don't get what they want. Many publicly known teachers do not make themselves publicly accessible to avoid dealing with such people, to protect their families, etc. It's not all honest practitioners out there. Sharing contact information for someone who hasn't already made their details public will open them up to people who behave like what I described.

oh i didn't know that !!!!!

 

[Sinai]

5 hours ago, -ꦥꦏ꧀ ꦱꦠꦿꦶꦪꦺꦴ- said:

Let’s say you manage to get their contacts, and then what? How will you convince them to teach you high level, inner door practices?

well i will humbly ask them and tell my problem, all of my problems to reach this stage. i will send them any documents like NDA for which i don't share details of them, practices, also i won't teach them neither i have intent to do so also i will tell them about my problem from my own country, with path i have walked, my achievements, i will reveal anything i have, anything i can to do to get their trust, i let them know to consider me as their little brother or little son. well that's all i have 

[MIchael80]

15 hours ago, Sinai said:

well i will humbly ask them and tell my problem, all of my problems to reach this stage. i will send them any documents like NDA for which i don't share details of them, practices, also i won't teach them neither i have intent to do so also i will tell them about my problem from my own country, with path i have walked, my achievements, i will reveal anything i have, anything i can to do to get their trust, i let them know to consider me as their little brother or little son. well that's all i have 

Hi! 

 

Did not read everything sorry if i missed something.  Nathan Brine is still giving workshops in Vancouver. Have you sent him an email?

 

[Sinai]

1 hour ago, MIchael80 said:

Hi! 

 

Did not read everything sorry if i missed something.  Nathan Brine is still giving workshops in Vancouver. Have you sent him an email?

 

hi yes my brother, i sent him email he does not answer the email, mailed him twice never answered any of them, these practices can not be covered in a workshop

[Sinai]

guys continue this discussion

[Sinai]

Post any Senior Students of Wang Liping Except for Nathan Brine, he does not answer at all

[silent thunder]

no

[liminal_luke]

I know you want a telephone number or an email address, something concrete and muggle-ish, but sometimes the best way to get ahold of someone is prayer.  By prayer I don´t mean the recitation of liturgy or some kind of fevered supplication, but rather a gentle openess to connect with a lineage.  You might sense how the mere existence of spiritual masters is benefiting you and all humankind energetically, even if you never come into physical contact, and generate feelings of gratitude.  You might bring to mind all that you´ve learned in your life and thank the in-person teachers that you did in fact meet and their teachers, the ancestral line of your learning.  Trust the universe.  Even now the right teachers are waiting for you to open your heart-door and invite them in.

Edited December 25, 2024 by liminal_luke

[EFreethought]

5 hours ago, Sinai said:

guys continue this discussion

 

Hire a secretary to do this stuff for you.

 

[-ꦥꦏ꧀ ꦱꦠꦿꦶꦪꦺꦴ-]

19 hours ago, Sinai said:

Post any Senior Students of Wang Liping Except for Nathan Brine, he does not answer at all

Dear Nathan, I wrote you, but you still ain't callin'
I left my cell, my pager, and my home phone at the bottom
I sent two letters back in autumn, you must not've got 'em
There prob'ly was a problem at the post office or somethin'
Sometimes I scribble addresses too sloppy when I jot 'em

 

Edited December 26, 2024 by -ꦥꦏ꧀ ꦱꦠꦿꦶꦪꦺꦴ-

[Master Logray]

On 12/24/2024 at 4:19 AM, Sinai said:

well i will humbly ask them and tell my problem, all of my problems to reach this stage. i will send them any documents like NDA for which i don't share details of them, practices, also i won't teach them neither i have intent to do so also i will tell them about my problem from my own country, with path i have walked, my achievements, i will reveal anything i have, anything i can to do to get their trust, i let them know to consider me as their little brother or little son. well that's all i have 

 

 

You know that opens you to all kinds of frauds?    I searched WLP in Chinese web but found very little info, even less than Google English.   One of the major problem for following the more obscure type of teacher or system is the support/continuity issue for long term students (like 20 years).  Once that teacher out of business/emigrated/incapacitated/imprisoned/died or become an immortal, you are pretty forever suspended from further improvements.  Even his most senior students may not acquired all his skills and levels or willing to take up teaching.   There was a group here whose master has passed away.  They cannot go nowhere. 

 

It is safer to follow general and popular systems, where the masters usually have peers or similar teachings available on the market you can resort to.  The second pitfall is that the teacher invented/created a new system, give it a new name etc.   Then even peers in his own lineage would not be able to help and may require you start from scratch again.   Given the difficulties getting a response even from emails, may be you should look into alternatives, just in case.

[Sinai]

1 hour ago, Master Logray said:

 

 

You know that opens you to all kinds of frauds?    I searched WLP in Chinese web but found very little info, even less than Google English.   One of the major problem for following the more obscure type of teacher or system is the support/continuity issue for long term students (like 20 years).  Once that teacher out of business/emigrated/incapacitated/imprisoned/died or become an immortal, you are pretty forever suspended from further improvements.  Even his most senior students may not acquired all his skills and levels or willing to take up teaching.   There was a group here whose master has passed away.  They cannot go nowhere. 

 

It is safer to follow general and popular systems, where the masters usually have peers or similar teachings available on the market you can resort to.  The second pitfall is that the teacher invented/created a new system, give it a new name etc.   Then even peers in his own lineage would not be able to help and may require you start from scratch again.   Given the difficulties getting a response even from emails, may be you should look into alternatives, just in case.

Hi hello my friend thanks for such great info and suggestions. the practices are from ling bao bi fa book and those are oral teachings of Lu and Dongbin if i suppose not make a mistake. it's from dragon gate sanctuary and they teach us about the immortality. one thing is i am with you about senior students and i thought that about that myself, it is obvious. most people are looking for earning for a living rather than seeking to join with the dao, unfortunately that's the problem of most of the masters who don't pass on their secrets to their students in time so they can continue their teachings. they must establish a legacy rather than seeking money, about fraud yes i am with you and i agree with you, i must be very cautious. i must get the secret oral teachings of Ling bao bi fa before something bad happens

[Sinai]

4 hours ago, -ꦥꦏ꧀ ꦱꦠꦿꦶꦪꦺꦴ- said:

Dear Nathan, I wrote you, but you still ain't callin'
I left my cell, my pager, and my home phone at the bottom
I sent two letters back in autumn, you must not've got 'em
There prob'ly was a problem at the post office or somethin'
Sometimes I scribble addresses too sloppy when I jot 'em

 

why making fun of me or sarcasm my friend ?

[Sinai]

On 12/23/2024 at 6:28 AM, -ꦥꦏ꧀ ꦱꦠꦿꦶꦪꦺꦴ- said:

Let’s say you manage to get their contacts, and then what? How will you convince them to teach you high level, inner door practices?

Thus, I transmit them to your esteemed disciple Lü Dongbin. Once you have realized the Dao, do not keep it secret. Pass it on to worthy successors in future generations.

This is a part of the techniques.

[silent thunder]

I recall encountering a man once wading through a pond striving to smooth the water by dragging a canoe paddle across the surface...

Edited December 27, 2024 by silent thunder

[-ꦥꦏ꧀ ꦱꦠꦿꦶꦪꦺꦴ-]

15 hours ago, Sinai said:

Pass it on to worthy successors in future generations.

This is the important part. How does he know you are worthy if you haven’t even done the foundations of his system?

[Sinai]

On 12/27/2024 at 10:14 AM, silent thunder said:

I recall encountering a man once wading through a pond striving to smooth the water by dragging a canoe paddle across the surface...

what are you trying to say ?