Sinai Posted January 4 3 minutes ago, johndoe2012 said: Do daily prayer for getting that amount of money. I will sure, Thank you for your Encouragements ! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thelerner Posted January 5 Sinai, if plan A, part 1- is find a senior student to give you contact information. Out of curiosity, what is your pitch to Master Wang Liping? What do you want from him and what do you offer him? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sinai Posted January 5 1 hour ago, thelerner said: Sinai, if plan A, part 1- is find a senior student to give you contact information. Out of curiosity, what is your pitch to Master Wang Liping? What do you want from him and what do you offer him? Plan A is to find anyone who is: 1-Connected to Wang Liping 2- Anyone who can teach me Three Transcendence practices. master Wang Liping is the bridge between Three Transcendence Practices and me, i ask master wang liping to teach me these: Practice of Three Transcendents Practice of theThreeTranscendents (sanxian gong) is the main body of the alchemical work. It is the private oral teaching associated with Lti Dongbins alchemical classic Lingbao bifa. Practice of Three Transcendents is divided into three vehicles, ten gates, and forty-five methods. The Practice of Human Transcendence Furnace is the body. Medicine is qi. Fire is the heart. Water is the kidneys. Cultivates Life Force {minggong . 1. Pairing of Yin and Yang i. The Yang Embryo and the Yin Breath ii. True Embryo Breathing iii. Pairing of Kan and Li 2. Gathering and Dispersing the Water and Fire i. The True Qi Contained in the Original Union of Yin and Yang ii. I he Lesser Refining of the Form iii. Celestial Youth 3. Copulation of the Dragon and Tiger i. Gather and Nourish the Reverted Elixir ii. Foster the Transcendent Embryo iii. Water and Fire, Kan and Li iv. The True Husband and Wife v. Exchange the Qi, not the Form 4. Refine the Medicine for the Elixir i. Fire Phasing ii. Lesser Celestial Circuit iii. Fire Phasing for the Celestial Circuit iv. Gather Shen to Nourish Qi v. Gather Qi to Nourish Shen vi. Refine Yang to Nourish Shen The Practice of Earthly Transcendence Furnace is spirit. Medicine is qi. Fire is the sun. Water is the moon. Cultivates Life Force (minggong ). 5. Flying the Golden Crystals Behind the Elbows i. Revert Essence to Nourish the Brain ii. Initiate the River Chariot iii. Copulation of the Dragon and Tiger iv. Decrease Lead, Increase Mercury v. Revert to Youth from Old Age 6. Reverted Elixir of Jade Liquid i. Jade Liquid Refines the Talisman ii. Bathing and Cleansing the Transcendent Embryo iii. The Lesser Reverted Elixir iv. The Greater Reverted Elixir v. The Seven-Returned Elixir vi. The Nine-Revolved Elixir 7. Reverted Elixir of Golden Liquid i. Golden Elixir Refines the Talismanic Form ii. Ignite the Alchemic Flame Setting the Body on Fire iii. Ihe Golden Flower and the Jade Dew iv. Greater Kan and Li v. The Method of Yellow and White The Practice of Celestial Transcendence Furnace is spirit. Medicine is inner nature. Fire is wisdom. Water is stability. Cultivates Inner Nature {xinggong \§LS))). 8. Refine Qi to have an Audience with the Origin i. Transcend the Inner Courtyard ii. Refine Qi to Complete the Form iii. Ihe Purple and Golden Elixir iv. Scorch and Refine the Yang Shen v. Ihe Three Blossomings Accumulate on the Top of the Head 9. Inner Observation of the Exchange i. Collect the Yang Shen ii. Fire that Reaches to Heaven iii. Exchange the Ordinary with the Transcendent iv. True Emptiness v. Entering the Celestial Kingdom 10. Liberation from Form i. Enter the Formless ii. Cast Off the Material and Transcend iii. Transcend the Ordinary and Enter the Sacred i want master Wang Liping, Or any of his Senior Students to teach me these practices. i offer him anything i have, even i become his servant for much as needed. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Daemon Posted January 10 On 20/12/2024 at 11:32 AM, Sinai said: 10. Liberation from Form i. Enter the Formless ii. Cast Off the Material and Transcend iii. Transcend the Ordinary and Enter the Sacred here take a deep look to these beautiful High-level practices. Wang Liping teaches these and i want to learn these practices. take a look and give me your idea Hello Sinai, (-: Those "beautiful High-level practices" are actually always freely available to everyone and, according to Nathan Brine (The Taoist Alchemy of Wang Liping, Volume 1, Chapter 3): Quote it is not necessary to master neidan in order to return to the dao; it is merely helpful. Peace, ☮️ 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sinai Posted January 10 2 hours ago, Daemon said: Hello Sinai, (-: Those "beautiful High-level practices" are actually always freely available to everyone and, according to Nathan Brine (The Taoist Alchemy of Wang Liping, Volume 1, Chapter 3): Peace, ☮️ Dear friend very thank you, thanks so much you really made me happy Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sinai Posted January 10 2 hours ago, Daemon said: Hello Sinai, (-: Those "beautiful High-level practices" are actually always freely available to everyone and, according to Nathan Brine (The Taoist Alchemy of Wang Liping, Volume 1, Chapter 3): Peace, ☮️ I hope these would be true since there are many practices for that even wang liping does not have any powers, well logically to witness, i needed them to really give birth to the embryo Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
idquest Posted January 10 8 hours ago, Daemon said: Hello Sinai, (-: Those "beautiful High-level practices" are actually always freely available to everyone and, according to Nathan Brine (The Taoist Alchemy of Wang Liping, Volume 1, Chapter 3): Peace, ☮️ Quote it is not necessary to master neidan in order to return to the dao; it is merely helpful. Return to the Dao means to become dead. Nobody need any neidan for that. This happens naturally. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cobie Posted January 10 (edited) In the DDJ, ‘to return’ (反 fǎn) means ‘to reincarnate’. Edited January 11 by Cobie 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Neirong Posted January 11 You cannot avoid death. When will people stop claiming achievements for themselves for something that happens naturally? The sun rises and sets over the horizon, not because of any "secret" alchemical practice you may have performed. All these self-proclaimed masters will die just like all other humans, and they will age in the same way. There is no extraordinary or "secret" teaching that sets them apart. If there is one thing you can do with your life, it is to live it free from attachments, obsessions, and regrets. This will dramatically improve your day-to-day experience and prevent you from becoming a dependent slave to a particular teaching, guru, book, or any other kind of imaginary idea. 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sinai Posted January 11 10 minutes ago, Neirong said: You cannot avoid death. When will people stop claiming achievements for themselves for something that happens naturally? The sun rises and sets over the horizon, not because of any "secret" alchemical practice you may have performed. All these self-proclaimed masters will die just like all other humans, and they will age in the same way. There is no extraordinary or "secret" teaching that sets them apart. If there is one thing you can do with your life, it is to live it free from attachments, obsessions, and regrets. This will dramatically improve your day-to-day experience and prevent you from becoming a dependent slave to a particular teaching, guru, book, or any other kind of imaginary idea. Read Professor Jerry Alan Johnson book: Internal alchemy: neigong and weigong it maybe a little bit expensive but that really worths the price, also you go to god after death not to dao for immortality you must do methods, you must learn neidan and do practices specially high-level ones. this argument is pointless you definitely don't know the meaning od Dao and neidan, you do NEED Practices mate Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Neirong Posted January 11 3 hours ago, Sinai said: Read Professor Jerry Alan Johnson book: Internal alchemy: neigong and weigong Not interested. 3 hours ago, Sinai said: also you go to god after death not to dao for immortality you must do methods Is it your opinion, or you have read that in a book? 3 hours ago, Sinai said: you must learn neidan and do practices specially high-level ones It sounds cultish; you create a dependency and imply that someone must learn neidan. From your words, it feels almost as if life would be worthless if one doesn't learn or master those practices. You come across as desperate throughout this entire thread. I don't believe anyone must or has to learn "neidan." 3 hours ago, Sinai said: do practices specially high-level ones I would suggest focusing on basic cultivation practices, such as meditation and energy work, until a solid foundation is built and you begin to make progress, rather than seeking "high-level" practices. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
silent thunder Posted January 11 On 12/23/2024 at 7:44 AM, Sinai said: okay my friend, sure i will do that, but i want: IF ANYONE HAS OTHER CONTACTS REGARDING MASTER WANG LIPING OR ANY OTHER HIS SENIOR STUNDETS DIRECT MESSAGE ME IN DAOBUMS THANK YOU You are asking people to do what you just agreed not to do. 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sinai Posted Sunday at 12:28 AM (edited) 2 hours ago, silent thunder said: You are asking people to do what you just agreed not to do. mate what should i do? you tell me... i am all ears, what did i agree not to do ? Edited Sunday at 12:28 AM by Sinai Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sinai Posted Sunday at 12:46 AM 5 hours ago, Neirong said: Not interested. Is it your opinion, or you have read that in a book? It sounds cultish; you create a dependency and imply that someone must learn neidan. From your words, it feels almost as if life would be worthless if one doesn't learn or master those practices. You come across as desperate throughout this entire thread. I don't believe anyone must or has to learn "neidan." I would suggest focusing on basic cultivation practices, such as meditation and energy work, until a solid foundation is built and you begin to make progress, rather than seeking "high-level" practices. Believe in me my dear friend you will miss a lot if you don't read that, it's very comprehensive and beginner friendly materials as well as advanced good one for reaching immortality like spiritual infant. also about this i am saying this from many books which i have read for almost 20 years, all lead to this, all these practices ae waht for but truly if someone doesnt learn neidan completely or kriya yoga, somehow his life is wasted, in my point of view we have limited opportunity to reach resurrection, enlightenment and immortality i do for sure focus on basic practices, of course it must be built and start with foundations and basic practices, its like an Olympics athlete, it take years time and perseverance, also those practices are from start and basic ones until it reaches the end. thanks for your post mate Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sinai Posted Sunday at 12:48 AM 2 hours ago, silent thunder said: You are asking people to do what you just agreed not to do. still don't get you, i said i go for practices, especially the basics one but somehow i am looking for those basic practices which are specific to that kind of system, that's all. could you please describe your opinion more clearly Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sinai Posted Sunday at 07:32 PM 5 pages have passed and no one gave me some example about what i am looking for, only sarcasm Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cobie Posted Sunday at 07:44 PM (edited) wrong thread Edited Sunday at 07:47 PM by Cobie Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ragune Posted Monday at 06:10 PM (edited) I suppose i can only show you another door behind the door, but maybe you know someone to translate this for you: It is a lot of Longmen content clearly explained by a nothern master BUT IN CHINESE. A part of the content you mentioned before is in this video (see description), and in the channel there are many more, about 170 clips, but some only audio. BTW, the teacher there (双丰老师) also does not answer the mails provided on YT (i tried), and as Nathan stated, that he is rarely online, which is reasonable if you are living a daoist way without much disturbance of the mind by modern media. Good luck! Edited Monday at 07:03 PM by ragune correction 2 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Master Logray Posted Tuesday at 12:53 PM 18 hours ago, ragune said: I suppose i can only show you another door behind the door, but maybe you know someone to translate this for you: It is a lot of Longmen content clearly explained by a nothern master BUT IN CHINESE. A part of the content you mentioned before is in this video (see description), and in the channel there are many more, about 170 clips, but some only audio. BTW, the teacher there (双丰老师) also does not answer the mails provided on YT (i tried), and as Nathan stated, that he is rarely online, which is reasonable if you are living a daoist way without much disturbance of the mind by modern media. Good luck! It is not easy to understand what he says. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DynamicEquilibrium Posted Tuesday at 02:53 PM On 12/01/2025 at 8:32 PM, Sinai said: 5 pages have passed and no one gave me some example about what i am looking for, only sarcasm Drop 2 pounds of rice on the floor then pick each grain with a pair of chopsticks and put them one by one in a jar. Repeat the operation 2 times a day until nothing can disturb your mind anymore during your practice. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sinai Posted Tuesday at 03:14 PM (edited) 21 hours ago, ragune said: I suppose i can only show you another door behind the door, but maybe you know someone to translate this for you: It is a lot of Longmen content clearly explained by a nothern master BUT IN CHINESE. A part of the content you mentioned before is in this video (see description), and in the channel there are many more, about 170 clips, but some only audio. BTW, the teacher there (双丰老师) also does not answer the mails provided on YT (i tried), and as Nathan stated, that he is rarely online, which is reasonable if you are living a daoist way without much disturbance of the mind by modern media. Good luck! Buddy thank you, thank you so much i appreciate your kindness, much love much appreciations from my side, thank you thank you so much i never ever forget your kind help Edited Tuesday at 03:15 PM by Sinai Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sinai Posted Tuesday at 03:15 PM 21 minutes ago, DynamicEquilibrium said: Drop 2 pounds of rice on the floor then pick each grain with a pair of chopsticks and put them one by one in a jar. Repeat the operation 2 times a day until nothing can disturb your mind anymore during your practice. bro are you serious or is it just another sarcasm ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DynamicEquilibrium Posted Tuesday at 03:36 PM 12 minutes ago, Sinai said: bro are you serious or is it just another sarcasm ? Very serious, if you understand the meaning of 收心 you also understand that it is the most elementary fundamental skill to posess before anyone from real northern lineage agree to teach you something more advanced. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites