Sinai Posted January 14 1 minute ago, DynamicEquilibrium said: Very serious, if you understand the meaning of 收心 you also understand that it is the most elementary fundamental skill to posess before anyone from real northern lineage agree to teach you something more advanced. sure Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DynamicEquilibrium Posted January 14 4 minutes ago, Sinai said: sure If you understand chinese here's the explaination of some basic concepts about Taoist cultivation in the northern lineage. The lecturer spent 13 years living as an ermit, then he returned to the world and now is the abbot of the white cloud temple in Beijing. https://youtu.be/l1yEPiYfwGw?si=Cue75PrFcYKCsWqP 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sinai Posted January 14 2 minutes ago, DynamicEquilibrium said: If you understand chinese here's the explaination of some basic concepts about Taoist cultivation in the northern lineage. The lecturer spent 13 years living as an ermit, then he returned to the world and now is the abbot of the white cloud temple in Beijing. https://youtu.be/l1yEPiYfwGw?si=Cue75PrFcYKCsWqP My friend thank you so much 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Master Logray Posted January 14 1 hour ago, Sinai said: bro are you serious or is it just another sarcasm ? He is not. In the old days, earnest learner has to endure such meaningless tasks for years to earn the approval of the master to be accepted as a student. These tasks are also to polish the prospective student's ego and train the mind for actual cultivation. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
-ꦥꦏ꧀ ꦱꦠꦿꦶꦪꦺꦴ- Posted January 14 55 minutes ago, Master Logray said: He is not. In the old days, earnest learner has to endure such meaningless tasks for years to earn the approval of the master to be accepted as a student. These tasks are also to polish the prospective student's ego and train the mind for actual cultivation. Wax on, wax off 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
damdao Posted January 16 @Sinai May be the best course of action is enroll in Nathan's courses and interact with him in his community in order to learn if is his approach what you are looking for. As you said in another thread that you have his books, you know that he is teaching the fusion of yin and yang and will write and teach about the following steps of Wang's system. 2 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sinai Posted January 16 7 hours ago, damdao said: @Sinai May be the best course of action is enroll in Nathan's courses and interact with him in his community in order to learn if is his approach what you are looking for. As you said in another thread that you have his books, you know that he is teaching the fusion of yin and yang and will write and teach about the following steps of Wang's system. Thank you so much my friend, sure i will do that, but some said he isn't responding even withing his community, i wonder if they are correct, if so it would be a dead end, but i hope i will not Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
idquest Posted January 16 10 minutes ago, Sinai said: Thank you so much my friend, sure i will do that, but some said he isn't responding even withing his community, i wonder if they are correct, if so it would be a dead end, but i hope i will not This is mostly correct. If you purchase Nathan's course(s), there is no guarantee that he will respond to any of your inquiries, even when asked in the private online community. Somebody will respond with a good and detailed response, but that person not necessarily will be Nathan. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sinai Posted January 16 1 hour ago, idquest said: This is mostly correct. If you purchase Nathan's course(s), there is no guarantee that he will respond to any of your inquiries, even when asked in the private online community. Somebody will respond with a good and detailed response, but that person not necessarily will be Nathan. exactly my dear brother, this is what i fear most... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Aleksandr Posted Monday at 11:59 PM 04/01/2025 в 19:04, Синай сказал: Я делаю это, но стоимость очень высокая. Я нашел ретрит Мастера Ван Липина в Греции в 2025 году, стоимость около 5000$!!! Can you share where you found about the retreat with Wang Liping in Greece in 2025? I can't find anything anywhere. I heard about the retreat in China in 2025 in October. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thelerner Posted Wednesday at 10:09 PM On 1/12/2025 at 1:32 PM, Sinai said: 5 pages have passed and no one gave me some example about what i am looking for, only sarcasm Kind of surprised this didn't end when you learned about the Greece seminar in 2025. To some extent that is mission accomplished. You found a way to contact him. The very very expensive seminar. If that's out of your price range and you're still obsessive you could go there, not take the seminar, not meet Wang Li Ping but hang out nearby hoping to contact and befriend a seminar taker. With luck, humility and the power of friendship you might get pointers and perhaps develop a relation with them. Even if meeting anyone falls through, you could do worse than a week or two vacationing in Greece. 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Neirong Posted Thursday at 01:40 AM On 04.01.2025 at 9:04 PM, Sinai said: i do but the cost is huge, i found a retreat of Master Wang Liping in Greece in 2025, the Cost is around 5000$ !!! 5000$ is very cheap for Wang Liping, It used to be about 10000$, and also the dollar had more value than it is now Rumors were you had to pass several of those seminars to get accepted, and then training was even more expensive And what did you expect? To be taught for free? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Chang dao ling Posted Thursday at 07:42 AM Sinai , why don't you try authenticneigong or lotusneigong? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Aleksandr Posted Friday at 02:01 PM (edited) Can anyone tell me where I can find out something about a retreat in Greece? There is nothing on Google about this. Maybe it is one of the seminars that have already taken place? Edited Friday at 02:01 PM by Aleksandr Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Chang dao ling Posted Friday at 03:17 PM 1 hour ago, Aleksandr said: Can anyone tell me where I can find out something about a retreat in Greece? There is nothing on Google about this. Maybe it is one of the seminars that have already taken place? Check this website https://fiveimmortals.com/schedule-2025/ 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sinai Posted Friday at 03:42 PM 1 hour ago, Aleksandr said: Can anyone tell me where I can find out something about a retreat in Greece? There is nothing on Google about this. Maybe it is one of the seminars that have already taken place? it is passed, it was for before Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Aleksandr Posted Friday at 04:11 PM 53 minutes ago, Chang dao ling said: Проверьте этот сайт https://fiveimmortals.com/schedule-2025/ I don't think there are any retreats with Wang Liping here. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sinai Posted Friday at 04:16 PM 5 minutes ago, Aleksandr said: I don't think there are any retreats with Wang Liping here. inbox me Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sinai Posted Friday at 04:28 PM 2 hours ago, Aleksandr said: Can anyone tell me where I can find out something about a retreat in Greece? There is nothing on Google about this. Maybe it is one of the seminars that have already taken place? go to it's relevant thread Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sinai Posted Friday at 04:57 PM On 1/22/2025 at 5:40 PM, Neirong said: 5000$ is very cheap for Wang Liping, It used to be about 10000$, and also the dollar had more value than it is now Rumors were you had to pass several of those seminars to get accepted, and then training was even more expensive And what did you expect? To be taught for free? so what? go and check the other masters, he trained for free and got the methods for free from 2 of his lineage holders, who said should i waste money for a few days which takes years to accumulate, if it is very cheap why don't you pay to him? my expectations are none of your business, this isn't the relevant thread for this go rot in another thread with your mind 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cobie Posted Friday at 05:26 PM (edited) 1 hour ago, Sinai said: … he trained for free and got the methods for free from 2 of his lineage holders … Exactly. So why trust WLP that’s raking it in? There’s a thread about ‘how to spot a fake master’: On 01/03/2024 at 8:08 PM, Cobie said: sex and money A real master does not have sex with you, full stop. A real master does not demand much money, just the normal entertainer fees. Edited Friday at 05:58 PM by Cobie 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Taomeow Posted Friday at 07:30 PM The story of Li Hongzhi is pretty educational in terms of what happens to a very public and in-demand teacher who doesn't charge for his teachings. We are told that the commies went after him because they couldn't tolerate anyone competing with them in popularity. What really happened though was, thousands of qigong masters from all over China petitioned the government to clamp down on him because he was undermining their livelihood -- and that's how the persecutions of Falun Dafa really started. Chinese government, which for a while has been investing in and promoting "legacy" arts to the point of having its mastodons merge with the establishment (as these things always go with whatever is promoted centrally) didn't want to undermine its own endeavors -- and of course went along and then some (the going overboard part is also business as usual with governments). Wang Liping was not someone to overlook the lesson. And I have it on good authority that his prices are dictated by the Chinese government, by the way. He lived in a tiny one-room apartment with his family for most of his adult life (and poorer than that when younger), and IMO anyone begrudging him better circumstances in his old age is no taoist material. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sinai Posted Friday at 09:20 PM (edited) 1 hour ago, Taomeow said: The story of Li Hongzhi is pretty educational in terms of what happens to a very public and in-demand teacher who doesn't charge for his teachings. We are told that the commies went after him because they couldn't tolerate anyone competing with them in popularity. What really happened though was, thousands of qigong masters from all over China petitioned the government to clamp down on him because he was undermining their livelihood -- and that's how the persecutions of Falun Dafa really started. Chinese government, which for a while has been investing in and promoting "legacy" arts to the point of having its mastodons merge with the establishment (as these things always go with whatever is promoted centrally) didn't want to undermine its own endeavors -- and of course went along and then some (the going overboard part is also business as usual with governments). Wang Liping was not someone to overlook the lesson. And I have it on good authority that his prices are dictated by the Chinese government, by the way. He lived in a tiny one-room apartment with his family for most of his adult life (and poorer than that when younger), and IMO anyone begrudging him better circumstances in his old age is no taoist material. @TaomeowI know Li Hongzhi, i love him so much, where is he now ? about wang liping i will talk about it later, i love him and respect him so much but if he can get talented ones as his senior he become very popular Edited Friday at 09:21 PM by Sinai Share this post Link to post Share on other sites