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1 minute ago, DynamicEquilibrium said:

Very serious, if you understand the meaning of 收心 you also understand that it is the most elementary fundamental skill to posess before anyone from real northern lineage agree to teach you something more advanced. 

 

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4 minutes ago, Sinai said:

sure

 

If you understand chinese here's the explaination of some basic concepts about Taoist cultivation in the northern lineage.

 

The lecturer spent 13 years living as an ermit, then he returned to the world and now is the abbot of the white cloud temple in Beijing.

 

https://youtu.be/l1yEPiYfwGw?si=Cue75PrFcYKCsWqP

 

 

 

 

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2 minutes ago, DynamicEquilibrium said:

 

If you understand chinese here's the explaination of some basic concepts about Taoist cultivation in the northern lineage.

 

The lecturer spent 13 years living as an ermit, then he returned to the world and now is the abbot of the white cloud temple in Beijing.

 

https://youtu.be/l1yEPiYfwGw?si=Cue75PrFcYKCsWqP

My friend thank you so much

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1 hour ago, Sinai said:

bro are you serious or is it just another sarcasm ?

 

He is not.  In the old days, earnest learner has to endure such meaningless tasks for years to earn the approval of the master to be accepted as a student.   These tasks are also to polish the prospective student's ego and train the mind for actual cultivation.

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55 minutes ago, Master Logray said:

 

He is not.  In the old days, earnest learner has to endure such meaningless tasks for years to earn the approval of the master to be accepted as a student.   These tasks are also to polish the prospective student's ego and train the mind for actual cultivation.


Wax on, wax off

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@Sinai May be the best course of action is enroll in Nathan's  courses and interact with him in his community in order to learn if is his approach what you are looking for. As you said in another thread that you have his books, you know that he is teaching the fusion of yin and yang and will write and teach about the following steps of Wang's system.

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7 hours ago, damdao said:

@Sinai May be the best course of action is enroll in Nathan's  courses and interact with him in his community in order to learn if is his approach what you are looking for. As you said in another thread that you have his books, you know that he is teaching the fusion of yin and yang and will write and teach about the following steps of Wang's system.

Thank you so much my friend, sure i will do that, but some said he isn't responding even withing his community, i wonder if they are correct, if so it would be a dead end, but i hope i will not

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10 minutes ago, Sinai said:

Thank you so much my friend, sure i will do that, but some said he isn't responding even withing his community, i wonder if they are correct, if so it would be a dead end, but i hope i will not

 

This is mostly correct. If you purchase Nathan's course(s), there is no guarantee that he will respond to any of your inquiries, even when asked in the private online community. Somebody will respond with a good and detailed response, but that person not necessarily will be Nathan.

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1 hour ago, idquest said:

 

This is mostly correct. If you purchase Nathan's course(s), there is no guarantee that he will respond to any of your inquiries, even when asked in the private online community. Somebody will respond with a good and detailed response, but that person not necessarily will be Nathan.

exactly my dear brother, this is what i fear most...

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04/01/2025 в 19:04, Синай сказал:

Я делаю это, но стоимость очень высокая. Я нашел ретрит Мастера Ван Липина в Греции в 2025 году, стоимость около 5000$!!!


Can you share where you found about the retreat with Wang Liping in Greece in 2025?
I can't find anything anywhere. I heard about the retreat in China in 2025 in October.

 

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On 1/12/2025 at 1:32 PM, Sinai said:

5 pages have passed and no one gave me some example about what i am looking for, only sarcasm

Kind of surprised this didn't end when you learned about the Greece seminar in 2025.  

 

To some extent that is mission accomplished.  You found a way to contact him.  The very very expensive seminar.  

 

If that's out of your price range and you're still obsessive you could go there, not take the seminar, not meet Wang Li Ping but hang out nearby hoping to contact and befriend a seminar taker.  With luck, humility and the power of friendship you might get pointers and perhaps develop a relation with them.

 

Even if meeting anyone falls through, you could do worse than a week or two vacationing in Greece.  

 

 

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On 04.01.2025 at 9:04 PM, Sinai said:

i do but the cost is huge, i found a retreat of Master Wang Liping in Greece in 2025, the Cost is around 5000$ !!!


5000$ is very cheap for Wang Liping, It used to be about 10000$, and also the dollar had more value than it is now
Rumors were you had to pass several of those seminars to get accepted, and then training was even more expensive

And what did you expect? To be taught for free?

 

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Can anyone tell me where I can find out something about a retreat in Greece? There is nothing on Google about this.

Maybe it is one of the seminars that have already taken place?

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1 hour ago, Aleksandr said:

Can anyone tell me where I can find out something about a retreat in Greece? There is nothing on Google about this.

Maybe it is one of the seminars that have already taken place?

it is passed, it was for before

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5 minutes ago, Aleksandr said:

I don't think there are any retreats with Wang Liping here.

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2 hours ago, Aleksandr said:

Can anyone tell me where I can find out something about a retreat in Greece? There is nothing on Google about this.

Maybe it is one of the seminars that have already taken place?

go to it's relevant thread

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On 1/22/2025 at 5:40 PM, Neirong said:


5000$ is very cheap for Wang Liping, It used to be about 10000$, and also the dollar had more value than it is now
Rumors were you had to pass several of those seminars to get accepted, and then training was even more expensive

And what did you expect? To be taught for free?

so what? go and check the other masters, he trained for free and got the methods for free from 2 of his lineage holders, who said should i waste money for a few days which takes years to accumulate, if it is very cheap why don't you pay to him? my expectations are none of your business, this isn't the relevant thread for this go rot in another thread with your mind

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1 hour ago, Sinai said:

… he trained for free and got the methods for free from 2 of his lineage holders …


Exactly. So why trust WLP that’s raking it in? There’s a thread about ‘how to spot a fake master’: 

 

On 01/03/2024 at 8:08 PM, Cobie said:

sex and money

A real master does not have sex with you, full stop.

A real master does not demand much money, just the normal entertainer fees. 

 

 

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The story of Li Hongzhi is pretty educational in terms of what happens to a very public and in-demand teacher who doesn't charge for his teachings.  We are told that the commies went after him because they couldn't tolerate anyone competing with them in popularity.  What really happened though was, thousands of qigong masters from all over China petitioned the government to clamp down on him because he was undermining their livelihood -- and that's how the persecutions of Falun Dafa really started.  Chinese government, which for a while has been investing in and promoting "legacy" arts to the point of having its mastodons merge with the establishment (as these things always go with whatever is promoted centrally) didn't want to undermine its own endeavors -- and of course went along and then some (the going overboard part is also business as usual with governments).  

 

Wang Liping was not someone to overlook the lesson.  And I have it on good authority that his prices are dictated by the Chinese government, by the way.  He lived in a tiny one-room apartment with his family for most of his adult life (and poorer than that when younger), and IMO anyone begrudging him better circumstances in his old age is no taoist material.         

 

 

  

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1 hour ago, Taomeow said:

The story of Li Hongzhi is pretty educational in terms of what happens to a very public and in-demand teacher who doesn't charge for his teachings.  We are told that the commies went after him because they couldn't tolerate anyone competing with them in popularity.  What really happened though was, thousands of qigong masters from all over China petitioned the government to clamp down on him because he was undermining their livelihood -- and that's how the persecutions of Falun Dafa really started.  Chinese government, which for a while has been investing in and promoting "legacy" arts to the point of having its mastodons merge with the establishment (as these things always go with whatever is promoted centrally) didn't want to undermine its own endeavors -- and of course went along and then some (the going overboard part is also business as usual with governments).  

 

Wang Liping was not someone to overlook the lesson.  And I have it on good authority that his prices are dictated by the Chinese government, by the way.  He lived in a tiny one-room apartment with his family for most of his adult life (and poorer than that when younger), and IMO anyone begrudging him better circumstances in his old age is no taoist material.         

@TaomeowI know Li Hongzhi, i love him so much, where is he now ? about wang liping i will talk about it later, i love him and respect him so much but if he can get talented ones as his senior he become very popular

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