Is porn bad for you?

[Maddie]

7 minutes ago, Apech said:

Happens a lot to me - maybe I should stop sleeping with insects.

 

It's hard to resist a lady bug slumber party though 

[Nungali]

3 hours ago, stirling said:

Porn in and of itself isn't bad, it is attachment or aversion to it.  "Misusing sex" as it is often put in the Buddhist precepts means that you have used sex in a way that will generate karma for yourself and others. It is manipulation, using power over another, becoming attached to certain stimuli, acts, or situations, etc. Where there is equanimity there is no karma generated. 

 

I would have thought having procreative sex  would 'generate more karma'   for yourself and others ,  than any other type .

[Nungali]

3 hours ago, ChiDragon said:

Since he posted here, and we live in the same area. I thought we meet in person to talk is better. I told him not to it as often and practice Taiji to regain his heath back to normal. I hope that was ok! 😀

 

Yes, that sounds much better ! 

 

It seems there is a lot of concern and embarrassment about masturbation .  It also seems to be  a part of the normal human 'past times'  and many people do it .  I mean, I dont  but I have heard its very common .

 

But since I want to have '  full incarnation' and experience all facets of life, I decided to give it a go  so I consulted a friend of mine who explained to me how to do it , so I followed his instruction step by step .

 

I opened the Playboy magazine to the centrefold and started rubbing . Yes, I could feel some stimulation there .... and it was growing .  The energy built up and just when I thought it was about to go somewhere ..... I felt a hand clamp down on my shoulder .

 

It was the newsagent and he said  " Are you going to buy that magazine or not !  " 

[Nungali]

2 hours ago, ChiDragon said:

One will not feel proud before. If the Jing was strong, then one would feel proud afterward of doing it. However, if one does it too often, the Jing becomes weaken. Since the damage has done to one's heath, to regain one's heath is good to practice any form of qigong. Taji is the best form of qigong. Most people didn't know that deep breathing is the key factor in qigng.

 

Please note that without deep breathing, one may practiced many years of qigong still not gain any heath benefit from it.

 

It was  just one of my bad jokes

 

Spoiler

proud

To have an erection. ie. Standing tall and proud

 

https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Proud

 

[ChiDragon]

23 hours ago, Sir Darius the Clairvoyent said:

 

please don’t get to caught up in technicalities and sematics.

For being with a scientific oriented mind, it is hard to follow this advice. IMO All definitions, facts, and theories should be followed in order for things to be fallen into place. Everything should be cleared in one's mind with no doubt to reach a conclusion. 
 

IMO To practice an art, one must know what the goal is. How to go about it? What are the intermediate stages during the practice. Know what to expect when the highest realm of the art has been reached. 

Edited December 21 by ChiDragon

[old3bob]

yes

[Cobie]

yes

 

[ralis]

Let’s just stop all sex and within a hundred years or so planet earth can breathe a sigh of relief when all humans have vanished. 😂😂

[Sir Darius the Clairvoyent]

5 hours ago, Nungali said:

 

Yes, that sounds much better ! 

 

It seems there is a lot of concern and embarrassment about masturbation .  It also seems to be  a part of the normal human 'past times'  and many people do it .  I mean, I dont  but I have heard its very common .

 

But since I want to have '  full incarnation' and experience all facets of life, I decided to give it a go  so I consulted a friend of mine who explained to me how to do it , so I followed his instruction step by step .

 

I opened the Playboy magazine to the centrefold and started rubbing . Yes, I could feel some stimulation there .... and it was growing .  The energy built up and just when I thought it was about to go somewhere ..... I felt a hand clamp down on my shoulder .

 

It was the newsagent and he said  " Are you going to buy that magazine or not !  " 

I remember my first time. It was when computers were relatively rare. One day I got to borrow one from school home. It’s battery depleted in the middle of the video.

 

Also, like half the class used to go together weekly, for years, at what we called a wank party. Good god haha. 

[johndoe2012]

There are movies with real, unsimulared sex which I find interesting. They are uncensored, have a story and are more female friendly so you can watch it together if you are a couple and want some inspiration. 

 

Nothing wrong with that I find. 

 

I like the expression from 'Training in compassion' by Norman Fischer, 

 

Quote

Don't be a phony

 

Which is letting the facade disappear, being right and spiritual disappears also and life takes over. 

[Sahaja]

On 12/20/2024 at 5:01 PM, ralis said:

Let’s just stop all sex and within a hundred years or so planet earth can breathe a sigh of relief when all humans have vanished. 😂😂

There is a term called mitahara in yoga that I think is applicable. It’s usually translated as the “controlled intake of healthy food”. The idea here is selectively eating both in amount, type and time. Generally amount is less than what fully fills you, the type is largely based on listening to your body but is assumed to be limiting certain types like sugars and meats, and time could be time of day  or in relation to your practice. Now one could write books on the meaning of each of these and it’s not intended as a singular solution but as a guideline that is organic that to some degree you have to find on your own. Those involved with self cultivation often find that their ability to discern what is healthy for them increases with practice as they become more aware and sensitive. 
 

the way mitahara was taught to me it didn’t just include foods but rather applied to all the things consumed by your senses (watching tv, use of computers, attending events, really anything that stimulates the senses which includes sex). . The idea was to manage the intake to all of your senses in terms of  quantity, type, and time. It meant being aware that all these activities carried consequences that you need to manage as an adult in terms of costs and benefits   Controlled intake means conscious choice based on what is healthy for you as best as you can determine. It’s not repression but sometimes it might mean using your will to control your behavior. Using your will in moderate doses is healthy for you. The Daoists would say it’s good for your Jing to exercise this. It’s called discipline. Repression is moving the desires to the unconscious level and this can create  serious psychological problems. Suppression means you are conscious of your desires but you are deciding that their cost to you exceeds their benefit. 

 

 From both a yogic and Daoist perspective sex uses energy that might otherwise be used for other purposes, such as self cultivation.  Sex also exposes one to others energy (at the physical, emotional and energetic levels) , which can be healthy or not depending on the relationship to  your partner and your partner’s hygiene (at all levels). Even a computer screen carries some type of energy you are opening yourself energetically to with porn.  So it’s important to make good decisions on it.   the Daoists actually have guides based on age for how much sex is healthy/unhealthy  but I think it’s a little more complicated than that but perhaps it’s a start.  Ultimately it’s up to each individual as an adult to find the balance that works for them 

 

In these traditions thinking is viewed as one of the senses. This means mitahara applies to discursive thinking as well and that it has cost and benefits and should be managed like the other senses. 

Edited December 22 by Sahaja

[liminal_luke]

Porn -- usually bad.

Anti-porn activism -- also usually bad.

[Mark Foote]

 

There's at least one sermon in the Pali collection where Gautama disparages women, stating that they will attempt to ensnare a man, even on their deathbed (why, that old misogynist!).

 

I believe the rules of the order stipulate that the punishment for the offense of masturbation is to be returned to the end of the lunch line, forced to eat whatever the other monks left on the table rather than the choicest morsels.  The offense for intercourse of any kind with another being is, of course, expulsion from the order. Better a man should stick his member in the mouth of a venomous serpent than in a woman, according to the old GOAT.

 

I heard a TedX lecture once where a woman claimed she had researched the subject, and the sperm are at their best for about a week after production.  She suggested that might be tied in to the urge to masturbate, in men.

 

 

 

[Sir Darius the Clairvoyent]

On 21.12.2024 at 2:01 AM, ralis said:

Let’s just stop all sex and within a hundred years or so planet earth can breathe a sigh of relief when all humans have vanished. 😂😂

But I like humans, and we are apart of earth. Maybe change our direction and values a little, but get rid of us? Nah, start with yourself

[ralis]

1 hour ago, Sir Darius the Clairvoyent said:

But I like humans, and we are apart of earth. Maybe change our direction and values a little, but get rid of us? Nah, start with yourself

 

I'm to get rid of myself? What do you mean by that?

[old3bob]

18 hours ago, Mark Foote said:

 

There's at least one sermon in the Pali collection where Gautama disparages women, stating that they will attempt to ensnare a man, even on their deathbed (why, that old misogynist!).

 

I believe the rules of the order stipulate that the punishment for the offense of masturbation is to be returned to the end of the lunch line, forced to eat whatever the other monks left on the table rather than the choicest morsels.  The offense for intercourse of any kind with another being is, of course, expulsion from the order. Better a man should stick his member in the mouth of a venomous serpent than in a woman, according to the old GOAT.

 

I heard a TedX lecture once where a woman claimed she had researched the subject, and the sperm are at their best for about a week after production.  She suggested that might be tied in to the urge to masturbate, in men.

 

 

what the hell, I liked Siddhartha by H. Hesse

[johndoe2012]

19 hours ago, Mark Foote said:

 

There's at least one sermon in the Pali collection where Gautama disparages women, stating that they will attempt to ensnare a man, even on their deathbed (why, that old misogynist!).

 

I believe the rules of the order stipulate that the punishment for the offense of masturbation is to be returned to the end of the lunch line, forced to eat whatever the other monks left on the table rather than the choicest morsels.  The offense for intercourse of any kind with another being is, of course, expulsion from the order. Better a man should stick his member in the mouth of a venomous serpent than in a woman, according to the old GOAT.

 

Sounds like BS to me but of course if are into misogyny and sexual suppression, go for it. 

[Apech]

34 minutes ago, old3bob said:

 

what the hell, I liked Siddhartha by H. Hesse

have you read Journey to the East?

[Apech]

1 minute ago, johndoe2012 said:

 

Sounds like BS to me but of course if are into misogyny and sexual suppression, go for it. 

No lunch for the wicked.

[Sir Darius the Clairvoyent]

1 hour ago, ralis said:

 

I'm to get rid of myself? What do you mean by that?

Well, if you think humanity is a cancer on the earth so… lead by example 

[Apech]

3 minutes ago, Sir Darius the Clairvoyent said:

Well, if you think humanity is a cancer on the earth so… lead by example 

Irony is wasted on some people.

[Cobie]

19 hours ago, Mark Foote said:

… Gautama … the old GOAT.

 

Greatest Of All Time? 
 

 

Edited December 23 by Cobie

[Sir Darius the Clairvoyent]

3 minutes ago, Apech said:

Irony is wasted on some people.

Im not sure, maybe.

[Sir Darius the Clairvoyent]

4 minutes ago, Apech said:

Irony is wasted on some people.

Im not sure, maybe. Wouldn’t be the first time I’ve heard those sentiments.

[Cobie]

19 hours ago, Mark Foote said:

… Gautama … the old GOAT. …

Really big size goat? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T511Kjor28A&t=15s 

 

 

Edited December 23 by Cobie