It was invented by Jews

[Sir Darius the Clairvoyent]

And cobie, when you respond, try to use words and reason. I am open to hearing what you believe, but I don’t care much about manipulative tactics.

[Sir Darius the Clairvoyent]

@Cobie I see that by responding with emojis you are unable to. That doesn’t give me much confidence to discuss this with you. But that’s okay, you have said bye to me a million times, but you keep comming back. Every time.

[blue eyed snake]

5 hours ago, Sir Darius the Clairvoyent said:

Another invention by Jews:

 

Here is the translated text to English from the OCR-processed content:

 

Text from Image 1:

“The reality is that there is a very close connection. A letter that was once discovered (and reproduced in Revue Paris 35, II p. 574) provides, in a nutshell, an explanation for this apparent contradiction. The letter is written by a Jew: Baruch Levy to a Jew: Karl Marx, and it states:

 

‘The Jewish people will, as a whole, be their own Messiah. They will achieve their dominance over the world through the mixing of races among other peoples, through the abolition of borders, through the destruction of monarchy, which is the support of individualism, and through…’”

 

Text from Image 2:

“…the establishment of a world republic in which the Jews will hold civic rights.

 

In this new world order, the sons of Israel, scattered throughout the world, will bring the working masses under their leadership. The governance of the various peoples that will form the world republic will, through the victory of the proletariat, fall into the hands of the Jews without significant difficulty.

 

Private property will then be abolished by the Jewish rulers, and all property will belong to the state and be managed by the Jewish rulers.

 

Thus, the promise in the Talmud will be fulfilled, and the Jews, when the time of the Messiah arrives, will come into possession of power over all the world’s property.’”

 

Not to mention the Russian revolution. How noble…

 

edit: I did not provide the source as it is illegal information. The only mention of it you’ll find online is from a Jewish advocacy group «debunking» it. Judge for yourself: https://www.jta.org/archive/j-d-b-news-letter-219

 

That said, the Jewish connection to the Russian revolution is mainstream. Even Churchill says so:

https://archive.org/details/ZionismVsBolshevismByWinstonChurchill

 

 

many decades ago my parents taught me to judge people on their individual merites. In children's language: it does not matter what color or religion a kid has, as long as you can play together and have fun. I keep this advice close to my heart, whether that is jews, moslims, immigrants or whatever. 

 

you are judging a whole people forgetting you are talking about individuals, to me that's dehumanizing.

 

I remember the lady that babysat my son, that son is probably older then you btw.

she had no family apart from  her parents, they survived the concentration camps and married, all their family was ruthlessly killed, she was an only child. Try to get what that means, take a moment ( or more) to let that sink in.

That is an individual person that you hereby judge to be bad because she is from jewish descent

 

she, and all other individual persons from jewish descent have no relationship whatsoever with what you write and to me your stance is morally indigestible.

[Sir Darius the Clairvoyent]

7 minutes ago, blue eyed snake said:

 

many decades ago my parents taught me to judge people on their individual merites. In children's language: it does not matter what color or religion a kid has, as long as you can play together and have fun. I keep this advice close to my heart, whether that is jews, moslims, immigrants or whatever. 

 

you are judging a whole people forgetting you are talking about individuals, to me that's dehumanizing.

 

I remember the lady that babysat my son, that son is probably older then you btw.

she had no family apart from  her parents, they survived the concentration camps and married, all their family was ruthlessly killed, she was an only child. Try to get what that means, take a moment ( or more) to let that sink in.

That is an individual person that you hereby judge to be bad because she is from jewish descent

 

she, and all other individual persons from jewish descent have no relationship whatsoever with what you write and to me your stance is morally indigestible.

Sure, but I am not judging a whole people. A random jew is no more responsible for acts done by a sub group of the faith then I am for manifest destiny. 

[blue eyed snake]

56 minutes ago, Sir Darius the Clairvoyent said:

Sure, but I am not judging a whole people. A random jew is no more responsible for acts done by a sub group of the faith then I am for manifest destiny. 

 

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take a moment ( or more) to let that sink in.

 

take more than a moment, take a day, a week,

think this over, try to get what I mean,

connect with it on an emotional level.

 

grow up and learn to apologize.

[Nungali]

As they say  ....

 

 

[silent thunder]

Spoiler

 

While D would have been wise to remain silent... I have come to truly appreciate it when racist ass hats reveal their nature openly.  When that stuff festers in the dark, it's often more dangerous.

 

That said... taking such a tone with one's racial pride flag waving fosters divisiveness itself and can be lacking in wisdom depending on the source and context.

 

We're all humans making our way in the end.  Some humanely, some not.  But to overly distinguish and champion one culture, is a subtle form of violence in itself as Krishnamurti so succinctly put it.

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When you call yourself an Indian or a Muslim or a Christian or a European, or anything else, you are being violent. Do you see why it is violent? Because you are separating yourself from the rest of mankind. When you separate yourself by belief, by nationality, by tradition, it breeds violence. So a man who is seeking to understand violence does not belong to any country, to any religion, to any political party or partial system; he is concerned with the total understanding of mankind.

Jiddu Krishnamurti

 

So did Floyd for that matter

 

 

Edited January 10 by silent thunder

[-ꦥꦏ꧀ ꦱꦠꦿꦶꦪꦺꦴ-]

Funny how this Darius is so different from the historical Darius 

[liminal_luke]

I´ve been in contact with Darius and he asked me to post the following apology for him (with permission from the moderators)...

 

I am sorry. I got carried away and wasn’t thinking clear. In the heat of the moment, so to speak, I didn’t feel like I did anything wrong. The comment by blue eyed snake made me at least start to reconsider tho. 

Happily, luke contacted me by mail, and told me how I came across while remaining really civil about it, and I realize he is correct. I shouldn’t have said any of the things I did. I sincerely apologize to you all. I do not believe anyone are inheritley bad or wrong based on their background.

[-ꦥꦏ꧀ ꦱꦠꦿꦶꦪꦺꦴ-]

Funny how the Clairvoyant didn’t see that coming

 

ok no more jokes 

[Cobie]

43 minutes ago, liminal_luke said:

… In the heat of the moment ..

I do not buy it. Imo it was no case of “heat of the moment” at all. I had my suspicions already a very long time, basically from soon after he joined TDB. e.g.

On 21/11/2023 at 3:22 AM, Cobie said:

… the stuff in the OLB is extremely racist and ultra right wing. Seems to me you like that stuff …

 

Edited January 11 by Cobie

[Cobie]

38 minutes ago, liminal_luke said:

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@liminal_luke I am sorry not to support you in this one. I appreciate your intentions. You are a sweetie-pie. 

[-ꦥꦏ꧀ ꦱꦠꦿꦶꦪꦺꦴ-]

12 minutes ago, Cobie said:

I do not buy it. Imo it was no case of “heat of the moment” at all. I had my suspicions already a very long time, basically from soon after he joined TDB. e.g.

 

Looking back at it, it seems obvious from his first thread:

 

 

 

 

Edited January 11 by -ꦥꦏ꧀ ꦱꦠꦿꦶꦪꦺꦴ-

[liminal_luke]

1 hour ago, Cobie said:

@liminal_luke I am sorry not to support you in this one. I appreciate your intentions. You are a sweetie-pie. 

 

Thanks, Cobie.  No worries about supporting me or not supporting me.  I am not lobbying for people to respond one way or the other, only passing on what Darius wanted to tell the board.

[Nungali]

52 minutes ago, liminal_luke said:

 

Thanks, Cobie.  No worries about supporting me or not supporting me.  I am not lobbying for people to respond one way or the other, only passing on what Darius wanted to tell the board.

 

Dont worry Luke   ....... I'll make you some Dahl  . 

 

[Nungali]

.... Great things India invented : 

 

Dahl

Chappati

 

......

 

 

[Nungali]

Now ...    for Cobie .... Great things Holland invented  -   'comfort food from home'  ; 

 

Pickled herrings , ok they didnt invent them, but they did invent  a particular way they should be eaten  ... sort of how one would feed  a seal ; head back and drop the whole thing straight down

 

 

 

 

Edited January 11 by Nungali

[Taomeow]

35 minutes ago, Nungali said:

.... Great things India invented : 

 

Dahl

Chappati

 

......

 

 

 

I dunno...  Every time I look deeper into something this or that people is supposed to have invented ("it is known..."), I discover that everything has been invented by the Chinese.  

Of course Australian aboriginal things you mentioned earlier may be an exception.   

 

Now that the member who belongs altogether elsewhere has been dis-membered and there's no risk of getting more of the same filth (at least from this particular source), I would like to mention in passing that "sources" are falsifiable.  With utmost ease in our time -- but they have always been falsifiable.  Some of them -- fakery made to look as coming from this or that group, usually to divert any and all grievances toward them -- have cost people lives, millions of lives.  (Did you know that the Black Plague, at the time it happened, was believed to be caused, not by the yersinia pestis which was to be discovered only centuries later, but by Jews "poisoning the wells?"  A number of mass massacres all across Europe promptly followed.  Just one example, out of too many.)

  

So, just wanted to mention something I found peculiar back in the day.  While that text attributed here to Marx is fake as fuck, I did read Marx's real letters to Engels and discovered that Marx was blatantly antisemitic.  Yes, it happens -- self-hating Jews are a phenomenon perhaps related to the Stockholm syndrome, or a misguided desire to be accepted by the majority on the basis of sharing what is perceived as the majority's sentiment...  whatever the reason, they exist, and Marx was one of them.  His letters are interspersed with many antisemitic slurs and attacks.  If he posted here some of what he wrote to Engels, he'd be banned too.  (And good riddance it would be if you ask me.)  

[Nungali]

Comfort food in Australia

 

 

 

 

[Nungali]

3 minutes ago, Taomeow said:

 

I dunno...  Every time I look deeper into something this or that people is supposed to have invented ("it is known..."), I discover that everything has been invented by the Chinese.  

Of course Australian aboriginal things you mentioned earlier may be an exception.   

 

Now that the member who belongs altogether elsewhere has been dis-membered and there's no risk of getting more of the same filth (at least from this particular source), I would like to mention in passing that "sources" are falsifiable.  With utmost ease in our time -- but they have always been falsifiable.  Some of them -- fakery made to look as coming from this or that group, usually to divert any and all grievances toward them -- have cost people lives, millions of lives.  (Did you know that the Black Plague, at the time it happened, was believed to be caused, not by the yersinia pestis which was to be discovered only centuries later, but by Jews "poisoning the wells?"  A number of mass massacres all across Europe promptly followed.  Just one example, out of too many.)

  

So, just wanted to mention something I found peculiar back in the day.  While that text attributed here to Marx is fake as fuck, I did read Marx's real letters to Engels and discovered that Marx was blatantly antisemitic.  Yes, it happens -- self-hating Jews are a phenomenon perhaps related to the Stockholm syndrome, or a misguided desire to be accepted by the majority on the basis of sharing what is perceived as the majority's sentiment...  whatever the reason, they exist, and Marx was one of them.  His letters are interspersed with many antisemitic slurs and attacks.  If he posted here some of what he wrote to Engels, he'd be banned too.  (And good riddance it would be if you ask me.)  

 

 

Errrrrmmmmm   ....

 

I thought you where about to say that Chinese actually invented  dahl and chapatis  !   

 

 

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Edited January 11 by Nungali

[Taomeow]

Just now, Nungali said:

 

 

Errrrrmmmmm   ....

 

I thought you where about to say that Chinses actually invented  dahl and chapatis  !   

 

I'll look into that.   Before I do, chapatis and dahl are not off the table.  Not after I found out that pelmeni, as Russian a dish as it gets, were invented by the Chinese.  (The Russian version, which originally came from China via Manchuria to Siberia, tastes better though...  so whoever invents whatever, there's always room for improving on it by someone else.)  

 

   

[silent thunder]

My first time trying Pelmeni was me realizing it was one of my favorite foods ever.

Served with sour cream and vinegar, which I've now incorporated as a dipping option in many other foods.

Never suspected it had a chinese source but once mentioned, it seems obvious.

 

Either way, at least now I know what i'm making tomorrow for brunch! 

[silent thunder]

5 hours ago, Nungali said:

Now ...    for Cobie .... Great things Holland invented  -   'comfort food from home'  ; 

 

Pickled herrings , ok they didnt invent them, but they did invent  a particular way they should be eaten  ... sort of how one would feed  a seal ; head back and drop the whole thing straight down

 

 

 

 

Almost all of my ancestors remained in Norway.  But Great G'pa and his son left for 'murica in 1600.
With my natural aversion to all things herring related, this picture reminds me of what a bad Norwegian I would be... and possibly why my GG was the one to leave Norway behind...  pickled herring is evidence to me that when one is starving, they'll eat anything chewable.

 

eta: dis-honorable mention to lutafisk

Edited January 12 by silent thunder

[Apech]

13 hours ago, Nungali said:

 

 

Errrrrmmmmm   ....

 

I thought you where about to say that Chinese actually invented  dahl and chapatis  !   

 

 

.

Did the Chinese invent Marmite (vegemite) or Weetabix?

 

[Taomeow]

10 hours ago, silent thunder said:

My first time trying Pelmeni was me realizing it was one of my favorite foods ever.

Served with sour cream and vinegar, which I've now incorporated as a dipping option in many other foods.

Never suspected it had a chinese source but once mentioned, it seems obvious.

 

Either way, at least now I know what i'm making tomorrow for brunch! 

 

I'm jealous!  In my gluten-free home they practically went extinct...  I managed to modify many recipes so I can make many traditional comfort foods with rice flour etc., but pelmeni won't yield...  all my experiments trying to create a GF version were an epic fail. 

 

Back in the day, we would sometimes organize pelmeni parties -- a bunch of friends would arrange to socialize on a weekend by sitting around the table and making a million of them, a fancy version with a mix of two or even three different kinds of freshly ground meat for the filling.  Then cook our creations in a humongous pot and then the party proper would start.  That version was particularly delicious.  Good old traditions...     

 

Sour cream is a must (one of the improvements on the Chinese original -- China missed that particular train), as is black pepper (and/or very hot mustard which some prefer), but going back to Asia whence they hail -- have you tried them with ponzu or yuzu sauce instead of vinegar?   

Edited January 12 by Taomeow