Why were the highest spiritual teachings kept hidden/secret

[Lairg]

10 hours ago, kakapo said:

Neirong

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After five years of training, I have started working with students, grading assignments, and participating in research projects. I got access to Closed Door retreats, where all "students" were advanced Adepts with abilities and 10-15+ years of experience in cultivation and magic.

 

My limited observation of Adepts is that they learn by working - not from classes.

 

Learning by doing is central once the human learns to control the lowest 4 planes of its light-body. 

 

The (now ex-human but usually still incarnated) Adept has much to do in the cosmos - cooperating with specialized beings - assisting in the unfolding of the structure and purpose of this galaxy.

 

The Adept attracts supporting spirits that prompt and facilitate as required - while the Adept extends cosmic Intent and finds roles and relationships in the universe.

 

The light-body of the Adept is progressively upgraded allowing wide-band connectivity with universal spirits

 

Thus the nature of Reality continues to unfold as the Adept takes operational and directional roles beyond this cluster of universes. 

 

Who can test such a proposition?

 

Perhaps voting would be easier.

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Cobie]

If you don’t understand, you will invent theories. 

 

 

Edited Wednesday at 12:57 AM by Cobie

[Ascetic]

Steal the consciousness of Yogi’s.
 

You will become aware of powers very quickly. And not lose yourself, you just have keep stealing never stop.
 

You wouldn’t let a fire burnt out, you need more wood. 
 

In any sense, it’s not an evil thing to do, maybe if you were robbing someone who isn’t a Yogi it would be.

But a Yogi? They’d be offended if you didn’t steal their consciousness.

 

Fools spend their whole lives offending the world around them, but there is good food that never spoils right there.

 

At the same time, Yogis have time and time again saved the world on their own. They bring meaning and light to consciousness.
 

Does anyone even understand how crude it is to reject the fruit of consciousness that can be stolen.
 

These masters exist, they have spent their whole lives in pain and agony learning countless secrets. It is indeed kind to simply start from stealing their consciousness. Why bother learning when you can just have their consciousness?

 

it’s certainly faster than meditation and other nescience.
 

Life span is a real threat, act accordingly. So best to act fast, eat faster.

Edited Wednesday at 01:18 AM by Ascetic

[Lairg]

4 hours ago, Ascetic said:

But a Yogi? They’d be offended if you didn’t steal their consciousness.

 

My own perception is that Adepts are very careful about with whom they associate.

 

When another is allowed on-going contact with the light-body of an Adept, the poor Adept is continuously subject to the emotional and mental turmoil of the accepted disciple.

 

Better to be too cautious than too welcoming?

 

 

Edited Wednesday at 05:22 AM by Lairg

[Sherman Krebbs]

13 hours ago, Nungali said:

Mr Krebbs ,  how much to join your site , get lessons and a uniform ?    Do you have  invisible subscribers as well ?  

 

Please PM me if you are interested in becoming an initiate, although I must warn you that only the most dedicated of students have the aptitude to master the highest levels of secret abilities and powers that I have cultivated, if at all, and it will take a lifetime of practice and determination to learn the highest level of secret abilities, which I and only I posses.  You may come to question some of the methods, particularly in the early levels of initiation, but I assure you, they are vital steps for you to be able to comprehend and understand the highest levels of secret teachings.  

 

I do not take compensation for my teachings, although I will send over my venmo in case you would like to make a contribution. While not required, I have found those who contribute are much more conducive to learning the secret teachings, and it is only by giving up all worldly possessions for this purpose that one is truly able to understand the highest level of secret teachings. I also accept bitcoin, and ether.

 

All of my secret teachings are done in person.  I keep a room at the Motel 6 in Reno. When you arrive tell them your there to see Bert.   Please arrive in loose fitting clothes and bring lots of tissue paper. 

[johndoe2012]

No need to steal the consciousness from a yogi. 

 

Pick a system that provides access to divine energy and consciousness, then you don't need a master or yogi. 

[Nungali]

20 hours ago, Cobie said:

If you don’t understand, you will invent theories. 

 

 

 

Tiger got to hunt 

bird got to fly

Man got to ask himself

why why why

 

.Tiger got to sleep

Bird got to land

Man got to tell himself

he understand....

 

 

 

 

[stirling]

Here is some deep DEEP dharma about the nature of suffering. Keep it to yourself, it's secret!

 

 

I am only kidding about the second bit. Recognizing the stories you tell about your "self" and how and why they cause suffering IS actually deep practice. 

[Ascetic]

8 hours ago, johndoe2012 said:

No need to steal the consciousness from a yogi. 

 

Pick a system that provides access to divine energy and consciousness, then you don't need a master or yogi. 

 

Then you have not tasted Yogic consciousness.
 

There is little need for self mastery, Yogic consciousness is always clean and never perverse, even when stolen.

 

Divine energy does exist, as does consciousness in its base form.

 

But a Yogi is the pinnacle of human potential, why not start from there and avoid all suffering?
 

 Suffering goes away almost immediately once one tastes Yogic consciousness. It really does.
 

A life spent meditating and waiting for scraps of consciousness and karma to redeem them. I really do not see what is difficult about stealing the consciousness of others who are better than you. Do you enjoy calling yourself tasty?
 

Meanwhile the person who steals yogic consciousness will always be better than the person that doesn’t.
 

Is there not a single divinity that does not revere the Yogi? How many sages lament infinite consciousness, and lose everything when they see the light of the self.
 

Consciousness is not infinite it can be stolen, it has value. Infinite consciousness will be a better answer, but for how long? Who can stop a Yogi from finding a better answer than the Self, Taoism, or Buddhas?

 

I don’t understand how so many people are spiritual, yet they do everything just so their ego’s stop suffering.
 

If you want to save yourself and if you want powers, stealing consciousness will always be the better answer. Does it have to be yogic consciousness? No, but why wouldn’t you. It’s the cleanest and easiest consciousness to work with. And yogis themselves do not even mind mosquitos, how could they possibly be offended by someone stealing their consciousness?

 

Doesn’t mean you need a master or a tutor, you just need to know how to steal consciousness.
 

Beings that do not steal consciousness are perfect, but those that do become more than just themselves. They have not lost their motive for growth even upon encountering wisdom.

[doc benway]

On 2/18/2025 at 7:20 PM, Cobie said:

If you don’t understand, you will invent theories. 

 

 

 

Perhaps the most concise definition of religion I’ve read.

[Lairg]

2 hours ago, Ascetic said:

There is little need for self mastery

 

Did someone tell my children that?    They behaved that way quite often

 

 

[silent thunder]

On 2/18/2025 at 4:20 PM, Cobie said:

If you don’t understand, you will invent theories.

then there's the assumption of objective understanding... and all that comes with that