In Which book does Wang Liping write about this memory exercise?

[markern]

I have read about a memory exercise supposedly described in one of Wang Lipings books where one tries to remember everything one did throughout the day from the moment one got out of bed. Can anyone tell me in which of his books he writes about this?

[damdao]

Daoist Internal Mastery, by Liping Wang (Author), Livia Kohn (Editor), Mark Bartosh (Translator)

Ling Bao Tong Zhi Neng Nei Gong Shu, by Wang li ping (Author), Richard Liao (Translator)

The practice is called Zhineng Gong or Attaining Wisdom and Potential, in Opening the Dragon Gate you have a description of that exercise too.

[Taomeow]

On 2/18/2025 at 1:48 AM, markern said:

I have read about a memory exercise supposedly described in one of Wang Lipings books where one tries to remember everything one did throughout the day from the moment one got out of bed. Can anyone tell me in which of his books he writes about this?

 

You go backward in your memory, from the last thing you did that day back to the previous one back to the previous one, reconnecting everything in reverse, then go to sleep.  Got it from a seminar.  Very simple -- yet helps one combat fragmentation and realize how much of the day they were aware and conscious, and which parts their body or their mind disconnected from and sleepwalked through.  Can be a fractal -- you can get a broad sketch of your day (I did this, and right before this, I did that, and that was preceded by such and such actions, etc.), or you can go into an infinite number of details.  Ee.g. instead of "got undressed before going to bed" you remember "took off the left sock before the right sock" (can you remember?) or instead of "made boiled eggs" -- "cracked the boiled eggs on the left side of the counter, boiled the eggs for 6 minutes, turned the burner down, put the pot on the burner and turned it up," whatever.   

[Neirong]

On 18.02.2025 at 12:48 PM, markern said:

where one tries to remember everything one did throughout the day from the moment one got out of bed

 

The exercise has nothing to do with Wang Liping. It is a Pythagorean practice, ancient and widespread, found in reputable online sources like wikiHow. Giving it a fancy Daoist name and claiming it as your own is misleading.
 

The exercise itself is not particularly valuable. It’s something ordinary people do without access to cultivation methods. The brain is a sophisticated organ that records everything from life, forgets selectively, and manages this database efficiently. Interfering with exercises like this one can impair cognitive function and slow processing.
 

To use a computer analogy, it’s like holding data in system memory indefinitely, overloading the processor and slowing the system.
 

In contrast, certain advanced practices can unlock true eidetic (photographic) memory. These allow you to access deeply buried memories, review them vividly, and experience them as an observer—like a multidimensional, full-color, full-sound video where you can move freely. Such practices require developing a mental body, honing meditation skills, and activating the upper chakras.

[damdao]

While it is true that the exercise appears in Pythagorean cultivation as described in the Golden Verses, the Longmen version represents a structured system. What was shared in the previous posts is the core, but it is important to note that there are additional steps involved.

Naturally, if you are intellectually honest (and I am not suggesting otherwise), you might wish to debate the origins of this exercise. However, it seems plausible that its source has been obscured by the mists of history.

 

p. 175, Daoist Internal Mastery, ThreePines Press

[Neirong]

4 hours ago, damdao said:

p. 175, Daoist Internal Mastery, ThreePines Press

 

This is a general pseudo-esoteric nonsense. I feel bad just reading this crap.

Telling you this as someone who can see spirits and energies, with opened third eye and had over thousands astral travel experiences.

[Antares]

4 hours ago, damdao said:

 

While it is true that the exercise appears in Pythagorean cultivation as described in the Golden Verses, the Longmen version represents a structured system. What was shared in the previous posts is the core, but it is important to note that there are additional steps involved.

Naturally, if you are intellectually honest (and I am not suggesting otherwise), you might wish to debate the origins of this exercise. However, it seems plausible that its source has been obscured by the mists of history.

 

 

p. 175, Daoist Internal Mastery, ThreePines Press

 

Looks crazy at least for me. And people pay big money for this BS. I am very sorry people buy into it

[Antares]

From Amazon review

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Wang Liping (b. 1949) is the most prominent teacher of Daoist internal alchemy in China today

 

[Cobie]

 

5 hours ago, damdao said:

… p. 175, Daoist Internal Mastery, ThreePines Press …

 

“ceasing eating to pursue life” 

BS.  If you don’t eat, then you will die.  That’s all.

 

Edited 6 hours ago by Cobie

[Antares]

10 minutes ago, Cobie said:

“ceasing eating to pursue life” 

BS.  You don’t eat, you will just die.  That’s all.

 

 

after 24 hours fasting Ming begins depleting, can be good if a person needs purification and other methods dont help (in some cases can be applicable), or if a person feels they are getting sick, it may be good to fast for 24 - 36 hours, but no more than that.

this phrase “ceasing eating to pursue life” sounds the same as " firing up house foundation to build it up"

[Neirong]

1 hour ago, Cobie said:

“ceasing eating to pursue life” 

BS.  If you don’t eat, then you will die.  That’s all.

 

This is common sense. What they’re selling in those books is an infobusiness scam.

I’ve already seen two groups of misguided Daoists in public: one advocating for the consumption of mercury pills (mercury is a deadly toxin to humans) and another promoting breatharianism (not eating).

Both of these delusions are lethal.
 

7 hours ago, damdao said:

exercise appears in Pythagorean cultivation as described in the Golden Verses, the Longmen version represents a structured system

You’ve clearly missed the most important part of the message: it’s not about who owns or authored the exercise, or even whether it’s good or not.

If you take a standard push-up, widely used, and rename it something like “Celestial Dragon Pushes Against the Gates of Dao,” claiming it develops ancestral strength and belongs to an ancient Daoist martial arts system called Monkey/Dragon/Turtle Kung-Fu, you’re not adding value or meaning to it.
People who do this are simply swindlers.

Edited 5 hours ago by Neirong

[NeiChuan]

7 hours ago, damdao said:

 

While it is true that the exercise appears in Pythagorean cultivation as described in the Golden Verses, the Longmen version represents a structured system. What was shared in the previous posts is the core, but it is important to note that there are additional steps involved.

Naturally, if you are intellectually honest (and I am not suggesting otherwise), you might wish to debate the origins of this exercise. However, it seems plausible that its source has been obscured by the mists of history.

 

 

p. 175, Daoist Internal Mastery, ThreePines Press

 

 

I am seeing criticism but honestly this lines up with inner alchemy and life experience I've had at pivotal moments. It's like luck meets preparation in a way. Hopefully in those cycles you are aware enough, and can break them. Otherwise we repeat. I will also say this "memory exercise" would happen pretty spontaneously in meditation for me when I began, I'd do it for about 3 years till I became more focused on certain things.

[Antares]

32 minutes ago, Neirong said:

You’ve clearly missed the most important part of the message: it’s not about who owns or authored the exercise, or even whether it’s good or not.

The main issue here is that in authentic neidan post heaven shen is not used at all. I mean diff variations of breath control, visualizations, remembering or forgetting smth, fasting, sitting cross legged etc