Gematria, Calculation Mem-Samekh-Vav

[NorthWide]

I am continuing to ask around regarding this subject.

 

Context: Jewish number calculation (Gematria) and Revelation later chapters that refer to the number of the Beast.

 

Facets of the topic:

1. Obviously Beasts in bible visions represent Governments.

2. The Sea represents mind streams of Adam (humanity, ask a Jew).

3. John mentions calculating this number which means they are translated to Hebrew letters.

4. Most texts translate 666, few antecedents use 616.

5. DevelopiNg further possibilities, conteXts meaning: did aNy Jews circa first CeNtury calCulate into Greek letters as a possiBility?

 

AbStraCt:

There was one Rabbi I was able to coNtact who took me seriously (not DaNiel from the forum obviously) however he seemed agitated about the result.

 

Background:

Historically Mem (600) is tHe context of water below the earth. This is two possiBilities: 1. GeNesis, Psalm 136 for example the earth was formed aBoVe the water. MeaNing, spaCe. 2. The water below the earths cruSt which scienCe is becomiNg aware of.

 

Historically SaMekh (60) is conneCted with marriage or agreement.

 

Vav (6) is to affix or set in plaCe somethiNg. Additional context may Be required.

 

Additionally the the charaCters could mean a word backwards or forwarDs. However, at this point am trying to specifically follow these conteXts to completion. I haVe eVen been searching the talmud for any contexts regarding this topic.

 

Yes, I am familiar with the fact that takiNg the number of the beast is an act of worsHip synonymous with puttiNg trust in somethiNg else other than God. However, I am just thinkiNg this is a type of Easter Egg that John wrote in the text for those know legible enough to understand it as he sometimes did.

 

Apologies on random capital letters as a result of usiNg typewise keyboard. It allows me to type really fast witHout a lot of errors yet at the expense of random capital letters

[Lairg]

1 hour ago, NorthWide said:

Obviously Beasts in bible visions represent Governments.

 

It is not obvious to me.  How would you test that hypothesis?

 

Meanwhile the early books of the Old Testament are written in code:

 

"Notarikon.. is a Talmudic method of interpreting Biblical words as acronyms. "

 

" Temurah may be used to change letters in certain words to create a new meaning for a Biblical statement."

 

And Gematria allows substitution of words with the same numerical value.

 

Before those codes can be located, the unpunctuated stream of letters (mainly without vowels) must be separated into word groups.  That requires prior knowledge if it is to be done accurately.

 

Not much in the first five books is obvious

 

 

 

Edited Monday at 10:24 PM by Lairg

[NorthWide]

11 hours ago, Lairg said:

 

It is not obvious to me.  How would you test that hypothesis?

 

 

The Bible Book of Daniel refers to beasts that come out of tHe sea as Kings (or literally governments) Revelation maintains this consistency.

 

Code? 

 

Behold!🔥

[Lairg]

If you are satisfied that is sufficient

 

Ancient accounts are typically re-edited many times, even if they really are as old as we are told.  For example King Solomon does not appear in copies of the Bible until our Middle Ages.

 

Consider Fomenko's statistical analysis of historical accounts.  For example some 30 ancient Egyptian tombs have ceiling astrological charts that reflect the stars in our Middle Ages.

 

https://archive.org/details/history-fiction-or-science-2003-2015-22-books-in-1-fomenko-anatoly

[NorthWide]

1 hour ago, Lairg said:

If you are satisfied that is sufficient

 

Ancient accounts are typically re-edited many times, even if they really are as old as we are told.  For example King Solomon does not appear in copies of the Bible until our Middle Ages.

 

Consider Fomenko's statistical analysis of historical accounts.  For example some 30 ancient Egyptian tombs have ceiling astrological charts that reflect the stars in our Middle Ages.

 

https://archive.org/details/history-fiction-or-science-2003-2015-22-books-in-1-fomenko-anatoly

 

We post for enjoyment.

 

Since my return I may find things interesting, but I disregard the worth of such kinds of code. If it your thing, which it sounds like it is... Feel free to post your extensive algorithms you have found.

[Sanity Check]

On 3/31/2025 at 10:35 AM, NorthWide said:

Facets of the topic:

1. Obviously Beasts in bible visions represent Governments.

 

 

Beast in the bible refers to a few different things.

 

1.  Person

2.  Nation

3.  Army

 

The term beast refers sometimes to a person.

 

The beast upon which the whore of babylon rides refers to a nation.

 

The beast that comes from over the sea, refers to an army from abroad.