oak Posted Friday at 03:15 PM Thought it would be useful to share my findings as they might be helpful to someone in the future. Have to wait 2 weeks for a dental apointment and I find myself with excruciating pain. Paracetamol and iboprufen not working anymore. Took some other Polish medication even stronger but guess what? Stopped working : ) Came to my mind two things said and written by Moshe Feldenkrais. I remembered him saying once in a video where he was treating a woman with chronic migraines that he had " many ways to trick her brain". With this in mind I tried to saturate my brain with "information" focusing in specific areas of both soles of my feet not giving any chance for the brain to give any attention to the pain. It worked. The pain was gone for more than 12 hours. Other thing that I have tried and again with Feldenkrais' ideas in mind was the following, according to him sensitivity is directly proportional to muscular relaxation. You can't feel a feather on the palm of your hand if you have been carrying heavy weights. So, if you try to feel soft or subtle things on the surface of your skin the surrounding musculature will relax. Again, it works. A soft hand barely touching my head and face made the musculature relax and stopped excruciating pain. Feeling very thankful to know what I know know and if it may help anyone, great : ) 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lairg Posted Saturday at 12:01 AM 8 hours ago, oak said: saturate my brain with "information" focusing in specific areas of both soles of my feet not giving any chance for the brain to give any attention to the pain. It worked. The pain was gone for more than 12 hours. In the Chinese tradition it seems that each tooth is connected to an organ by meridians. The organs of course also map on the the soles of the feet. A couple of weeks ago a friend was complaining about a particular molar so I had him follow the energy line and he suddenly became aware of his hemorrhoids. Which end of the meridian was the cause? Or was there a deeper cause that produced both problems? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
doc benway Posted 17 hours ago One can bring clear and stable attention to the area of pain, or the system, and connect to the feeling of spaciousness that is there if we can open enough to the experience. I think there is a relaxing there as well, @oak and also a loving, caring attention. Touch can be so healing and also the simple touch of awareness. Spaciousness and openness to the experience, not engaging with the psych/emotional side or stories, just being with the direct experience as best you can and open to the genuine warmth that can come up, as if caring for a loved one. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
oak Posted 15 hours ago 1 hour ago, doc benway said: One can bring clear and stable attention to the area of pain, or the system, and connect to the feeling of spaciousness that is there if we can open enough to the experience. I think there is a relaxing there as well, @oak and also a loving, caring attention. Touch can be so healing and also the simple touch of awareness. Spaciousness and openness to the experience, not engaging with the psych/emotional side or stories, just being with the direct experience as best you can and open to the genuine warmth that can come up, as if caring for a loved one. That worked indeed for me, once. Again it was excruciating pain and I managed to totally listen to it without trying to alter anything...and as if by miracle it stopped. Untill this day I couldn't reproduce that again. It requires an extreme amount of focus and self-control. This time I have decided to try something else. You learn by experiencing, isn't it? 🙂 Thanks for your contribution @doc benway 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Taomeow Posted 14 hours ago (edited) Where I come from they take the body temperature under the armpit rather than in the mouth (to this day I don't think I ever stuck a thermometer in my mouth -- just have to adjust the reading, since under the armpit it's about 0.5 degrees Celsius or 1 degree Fahrenheit lower). So in my teens I trained myself to raise my temperature under one armpit, just while I was waiting to see a doctor with the intent to fake a cold. It usually took about 10 minutes of visualiziation. I assembled a very realistic fire under the armpit -- miniature imaginary logs, kindling, tinder, exactly the way I did it in real life while camping. Strike a match, start the fire, feel it burn hotter and hotter. Then the doctor would take my temperature and hey presto... solid no-nonsense fever, and the rest was up to the doctor's imagination -- which never failed, since the objective reading from a device -- the thermometer -- told them I was sick. On the way back home I would still feel realistically sick for another 15 minutes or so, headache and body aches and sniffles and all that jazz, but then my body would snap out of it, realizing that my mind had fooled it, and indignantly get back to normal to enjoy those days off. I know... a waste of talent. But the title of the thread is "Pain management techniques," and school was always a huge pain in the ass. Edited 14 hours ago by Taomeow 1 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
oak Posted 13 hours ago 51 minutes ago, Taomeow said: I know... a waste of talent. But the title of the thread is "Pain management techniques," and school was always a huge pain in the ass. Indeed... I've learned as a child chemical ways with home items to induce fever. That would help me skip school. Won't share them as teenagers may reed this 🥶 Congrats for your talent 🔥 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Taomeow Posted 13 hours ago Just now, oak said: Indeed... I've learned as a child chemical ways with home items to induce fever. That would help me skip school. Won't share them as teenagers may reed this 🥶 Congrats for your talent 🔥 I don't think I can do it anymore. Haven't tried in a long time anyway... I think the last time was in college. We had compulsory attendance, so it wasn't possible to just not show up the way college students do here and now. But the last year and a half I had the privilege of free attendance (due to a combo of being top of the class and personal circumstances) so I didn't need to fake being sick anymore -- I only showed up for exams anyway. It was brave of you (or desperate?) to go about it the chemical way. I was afraid of chemistry so I never tried. The reason I was afraid of chemistry back then was twofold -- a horrible relationship with the teacher (a bribe taking malicious bitch -- and my parents never bribed anyone), and this classmate who always messed with my labs to get my attention. He was our nerdiest chemistry expert (and later professional) so I had no idea what he managed to sneak into my reagents, but the moment I'd mix something with something everything would start crackling and then exploding, sparks flying, burning holes in notebooks and so on. The teacher blamed me. I tried to argue that I don't know enough chemistry to pull off something like this, but she didn't believe me. Horror of horrors, chemistry. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
doc benway Posted 13 hours ago (edited) There is value in visualization for healing, for me. Also in spiritual practice. In Bonpo guru yoga, we first purify the body, speech, and mind first with flame, then wind, then water. It’s a very effective cleansing process. Edited 13 hours ago by doc benway 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
doc benway Posted 13 hours ago (edited) 12 hours ago, Taomeow said: I had no idea what he managed to sneak into my reagents, but the moment I'd mix something with something everything would start crackling and then exploding, sparks flying, burning holes in notebooks and so on I was a chem major and worked as an organic lab TA during undergrad. There were always one or two per lab who wreaked havoc, either through inanity or frivolity. They enjoyed seeing me sweat and put out fires, it seemed. Then again, I got to grade their lab assignments... Edited 1 hour ago by doc benway 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lairg Posted 11 hours ago (edited) I have a friend that does a lot of driving. Occasionally he calls me saying: I have a pain in my .... One time it was a sharp pain in his left shoulder blade. I had the image of spear coming through the shoulder blade - and he could imagine it easily. So: who is holding the spear? After some moments he said: My elder son. So: give heart light to your son and ask him to remove the spear, Done and done. Pain gone. Whole process was a few minutes Perhaps 10 of his pain events have been resolved in similar fashion. The pains were being caused by interference in the light-body (aura) and in each case it was a relationship issue. I used to do a lot of similar clearing of my foot and leg pain while running. These days it seems I have mostly sorted out my close relationships and rarely get pains. The other day an aggressive dog ran at me and a minute later I had a pain in one foot. It took me a couple of minutes to realize that it was not a relative causing the pain. The dog had projected some dark energy into my foot. Once I spotted it, it was easy to remove. Edited 11 hours ago by Lairg Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sanity Check Posted 3 hours ago The one time I got stitches. The doctor sticks the needle into the wound to numb it. No reaction. He goes: "you have good pain tolerance". Shrug. If it is so, I have not the slightest clue how it got that way. Accidental unintentional. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
