NorthWide Posted Wednesday at 11:34 AM You give and giVe and give no matter how it hurts. That's the reality of the cork tree. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tommy Posted Wednesday at 01:54 PM What is love and why do you have to give and give and give? Also, what does it have to do with the reality of a cork tree? Please explain what you are asking or trying to state. I am a simple person and need help to understand. Thank you. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nungali Posted Wednesday at 11:14 PM AI Overview Learn more The statement "love is like a cork tree" can be interpreted metaphorically, suggesting that love, like a cork tree, can be resilient, adaptable, and sustainable, with the ability to regenerate and grow, much like the cork oak's ability to regrow its bark. Here's a more detailed breakdown: Resilience and Strength: Like a cork tree that can withstand harsh conditions and be harvested repeatedly, love can be a source of strength and resilience in relationships, enduring challenges and setbacks. Growth and Renewal: The cork tree's ability to regrow its bark after harvest symbolizes the potential for love to grow, evolve, and renew itself over time. Sustainability and Longevity: Cork oaks can live for centuries and be harvested multiple times, much like love that can be a long-lasting and sustainable force in a relationship. Adaptability: Cork trees are native to the Mediterranean region and are known for their ability to adapt to different climates and environments, just like love can adapt to different situations and relationships. Symbolism: The cork tree is a symbol of nature's resilience and adaptability, and its connection to love can be seen as a reminder of the power and beauty of human connection. Practical Application: The idea of "love is like a cork tree" can be used to encourage people to view their relationships as a source of strength, growth, and renewal, and to appreciate the sustainable nature of love. Cork Oak: Quercus suber is the scientific name for the cork oak, a medium-sized, evergreen oak tree native to the Mediterranean region. Cork Harvesting: Cork oaks can be harvested for their bark every 9 to 12 years without causing damage to the tree, and a single cork oak can be harvested over 16 times in its lifetime. Other Uses: Cork is used for a variety of purposes, including wine bottle stoppers, cork flooring, and as the cores of cricket balls. Generative AI is experimental. I prefer the Casuarina ; its long soft needles combed by the wind , they breath with a gentle whooshing sound and are used as a natural paint brush to 'lash' the skin with white clay (for ceremony ) , dried they make good tinder in a copse they gather together and cover the ground with depth of soft needles like a mattress and allow the dappled light through, an excellent place to set up camp . Beautiful in form , I planted one directly outside my my front windows . Can a man love a tree ? I think so . Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NorthWide Posted Thursday at 05:54 AM (edited) 16 hours ago, Tommy said: What is love and why do you have to give and give and give? Also, what does it have to do with the reality of a cork tree? Please explain what you are asking or trying to state. I am a simple person and need help to understand. Thank you. 1. What is love? A statement in the form of a question is called rhetoric especially when used to trigger a positive reaction from people. 2. Why does one give and give? Love is something that is given and makes people feel fuzzy, safe, secure or bubbly. If are a husband or wife you agree to indefinitely serve the other (love). If you have children you agree to indefinitely offer emotional and stable support (love). Obviously, there are those who do not understand family bonds. Love CemeNtS eVerythiNg together. 3. What it has to do with a cork tree: All trees haVe a Cambium a green layer between the bark and the wood/heartwood. This is its circulatory system. Harvesting Cork if Not traiNed can damage the cambium. Think of it like tHis: Humans haVe Multiple layers of skin, muCh like bark. Closer to the Cambium you haVe living tissue. If soMeoNe were to remoVe 6 of your niNe layers of skin you would feel sore and tender too. Trees do feel and thanks to ADenosine TripHosphate can commuNicate pain. It is a painful experience. Its not really that dense, it probably just iNitially sounded super compliCated wHen its super easy. So, giving and giving can sometimes feel like you're a cork tree. You haVe to trust the process, be consistent and truSt that in doing so things will be better. Edited Thursday at 05:58 AM by NorthWide Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lairg Posted Thursday at 06:29 AM (edited) 16 hours ago, Tommy said: What is love and why do you have to give and give and give? For the human typically there is physical love and emotional love. There may also be mental love and even heart love and beyond. A female friend showed me an email from her now-divorced husband. She was very pleased as he had shown signs of understanding that transactional love is not real love. (I will love you if you do this...) The Entity that uses this galaxy as Its body of incarnation is learning right relationship. This means that the more humans are transparent to the life force of this galaxy, the more they naturally develop right relationships with the surrounding intelligences. Edited Thursday at 06:30 AM by Lairg 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tommy Posted Thursday at 06:55 PM (edited) 13 hours ago, NorthWide said: 1. What is love? A statement in the form of a question is called rhetoric especially when used to trigger a positive reaction from people. Okay, so you aren't asking a question. You are just being rhetorical so you want to trigger a positive reaction. What is love? Baby Don't hurt me. Don't hurt me. No more. 13 hours ago, NorthWide said: 2. Why does one give and give? Love is something that is given and makes people feel fuzzy, safe, secure or bubbly. If are a husband or wife you agree to indefinitely serve the other (love). If you have children you agree to indefinitely offer emotional and stable support (love). Obviously, there are those who do not understand family bonds. Love CemeNtS eVerythiNg together. As a husband, I do what is needed to keep this relationship with my wife and child. I believe it is out of love but I really do not know for certain. Because I do not know if love is suppose to be as a servant to others? To give and give and make others feel fuzzy, safe, secure or bubbly? What is love? Baby Don't hurt me. Don't hurt me. No more. 13 hours ago, NorthWide said: 3. What it has to do with a cork tree: All trees haVe a Cambium a green layer between the bark and the wood/heartwood. This is its circulatory system. Harvesting Cork if Not traiNed can damage the cambium. Think of it like tHis: Humans haVe Multiple layers of skin, muCh like bark. Closer to the Cambium you haVe living tissue. If soMeoNe were to remoVe 6 of your niNe layers of skin you would feel sore and tender too. Trees do feel and thanks to ADenosine TripHosphate can commuNicate pain. It is a painful experience. Its not really that dense, it probably just iNitially sounded super compliCated wHen its super easy. So, giving and giving can sometimes feel like you're a cork tree. You haVe to trust the process, be consistent and truSt that in doing so things will be better. Yeah, cork tree ... gives and gives and gives??? Or is it that people take and take and take? Okay, trust in doing so things will be better? What is love? Baby Don't hurt me. Don't hurt me. No more. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D2h4PhgobI8 Edited Thursday at 06:57 PM by Tommy 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NorthWide Posted yesterday at 04:19 AM 9 hours ago, Tommy said: Okay, so you aren't asking a question. You are just being rhetorical so you want to trigger a positive reaction. What is love? Baby Don't hurt me. Don't hurt me. No more. As a husband, I do what is needed to keep this relationship with my wife and child. I believe it is out of love but I really do not know for certain. Because I do not know if love is suppose to be as a servant to others? To give and give and make others feel fuzzy, safe, secure or bubbly? What is love? Baby Don't hurt me. Don't hurt me. No more. Yeah, cork tree ... gives and gives and gives??? Or is it that people take and take and take? Okay, trust in doing so things will be better? What is love? Baby Don't hurt me. Don't hurt me. No more. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D2h4PhgobI8 Love believe it or not is actually service to others. So, me and My wife mwy disagree occasionally. But when she is sick, who cleans up or cooks her food wnd takes care of her? Me. Obviously I do those things a lot. When a relwtionship is healthy, I believe this is how it works. Lots of communication is better than igNoriNg. Obviously this is close/faMilial love not Philia or Agape. PhiLia is towards friends Agape is prihcipled love for enemies. Greeks have lots of words for love 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tommy Posted yesterday at 12:55 PM 8 hours ago, NorthWide said: Greeks have lots of words for love Different words for love must mean there are different nuances to love. Love of mom which brings a safe feeling. Love of a good woman which brings feelings of joy. My issue is when one does give and give and give, the feeling one got was one of being happy for doing it. After so much time, does it change and then become something which is more burden than love?? Then more questions, like was it true love if this is how I feel (burden) now? I know I do not wish to be a burden. Guess as life goes on, one learns to accept things as they are? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NorthWide Posted yesterday at 02:44 PM 1 hour ago, Tommy said: Different words for love must mean there are different nuances to love. Love of mom which brings a safe feeling. Love of a good woman which brings feelings of joy. My issue is when one does give and give and give, the feeling one got was one of being happy for doing it. After so much time, does it change and then become something which is more burden than love?? Then more questions, like was it true love if this is how I feel (burden) now? I know I do not wish to be a burden. Guess as life goes on, one learns to accept things as they are? After praying and meditating on this; I say that sometimes women see a man as a Feather in their hat or a noVelty. Not eVeryone CouNts the coSt of maiNtaining a relationship. Its a long of communiCation of needs, serViNg the other. When that doesht happen, reseNtmeNt and feet Dragging happen. THey say opposites attract. Well f that. Find a woman just like you becauSe no one is so cruel so as to Reject themselVes. 😂🤣 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nungali Posted 18 hours ago 9 hours ago, NorthWide said: After praying and meditating on this; I have to interrupt you here .... praying does not work . ( If it did I would own a midget brothel by now ) 9 hours ago, NorthWide said: I say that sometimes women see a man as a Feather in their hat or a noVelty. Not eVeryone CouNts the coSt of maiNtaining a relationship. Its a long of communiCation of needs, serViNg the other. When that doesht happen, reseNtmeNt and feet Dragging happen. THey say opposites attract. Well f that. Find a woman just like you becauSe no one is so cruel so as to Reject themselVes. 😂🤣 opposites attracting is the essential nature of love ... essential . if oxygen didn't love hydrogen so much, we would not have water ( even though oxygen requires a threesome ) Any other form of love is bound to be a mix . A bit out of time now ... I was going to list the 'mixes' ... maybe later . 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tommy Posted 18 hours ago 9 hours ago, NorthWide said: After praying and meditating on this; I say that sometimes women see a man as a Feather in their hat or a noVelty. Not eVeryone CouNts the coSt of maiNtaining a relationship. Men usually just strive for continuing of the relationship and women look for happiness. When the going gets rough, the men dig in for the long run and women look for a way out. The cost is giving of oneself beyond hopes of being happy. But, just finding happiness in the giving is the key to remain in the relationship. 9 hours ago, NorthWide said: Its a long of communiCation of needs, serViNg the other. When that doesht happen, reseNtmeNt and feet Dragging happen. THey say opposites attract. Well f that. Find a woman just like you becauSe no one is so cruel so as to Reject themselVes. 😂🤣 Yes, communication of needs and serving the other. But, one has to find the joy of doing so. Otherwise, it becomes a duty or a chore. Not a blessing. When that doesn't happen, resentment is true. Feet dragging. Again, if the joy in doing or giving or serving is gone then there is no love. Love comes from losing oneself and finding joy in the giving and serving. Opposites attract? Maybe. I haven't found that to be true. What attracts is being on the same page and understanding the needs and wants of the other person. Then having your needs met while serving the other. It is strange that love is a two way street. One going your way and the other going theirs. So, is it opposite? What is love? I still don't know for sure. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nungali Posted 17 hours ago again, that depends on the type of love you are wanting a definition for . Example , take 'mother love ' ; love x the 'motherly instinct' x (for some ) a vast range of things - it's complex . Relationship love could be anything like ; love X the need for companionship x lust x (even ) domination / submission x (even perhaps x reproductive instincts - a huge unconscious driver of 'love' ) . I realize this is bound to be unpopular ... 'sacred cows' and all that . If it is pure love one wants to understand we need to remove all the x ( 'times by' - 'types' ) . What we are left with is a universal force that causes attractions and combinations that produce 'new energies' . of course 'attractions' can also postulate original separations and that postulates original unity . How about this ? Love is the motivation to get back to singularity ? If you are 'running' on more than that , it isn't 'pure' . I do agree with you about the 'giving' though ... it may not matter if the other knows if you even exist or not . . . . you might still feel 'the buzz' . It's a deep psychological interaction with one's anima / animus . Liz Green ( the psychologist / mythic tarot creator ) talks about this to some extent - its a projection . She explains how , when this occurs , if we connect with that person , it might end up a disappointment ( as they are human after all ) - that once radiant God / Goddess now squeezes the toothpaste tube from the wrong end or farts in bed ! Liz even suggests its better if we never connect with them ... just enjoy your love 'from afar ' . I am sure some of this dynamic comes into play with 'deity' ... its usually a 'bhakti ' process and that can even be with ... as AI tells us ( ) " "bhakti" refers to loving devotion, attachment, and faith in a personal God or deity, or even a formless ultimate reality " Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bindi Posted 17 hours ago To me a relationship holds the possibility of personal transformation. Some of the problems are mine, difficult to see and own but transformative if I manage to. Some of the problems are a partners problems, will he or she see and own them? That’s up to them. Like Nungali said, opposites attract, I think to give us a mirror that we can look into and with any luck start to see ourselves. The more opposite, the closer to reality. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nungali Posted 17 hours ago When opposites do not attract ; Who is this maiden robed for a bride,White shoulders and bright brows adorable,The flaming locks that clothe her, and abide,As God were bathing in the fire of Hell?They change, they grow, they shakeAs sunlight on the lake: Oh wait ... that's me . 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NorthWide Posted 13 hours ago Not eVery broKen dish is due to a Bad wiper Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lairg Posted 12 hours ago 1 hour ago, NorthWide said: Not eVery broKen dish is due to a Bad wiper Relationships are usually much more complex than they look. An hour ago a woman called me. She had met a man and had feelings for him that were complex. With a very little verbal prompting she saw she was his mother long ago in a mud hut. She felt she had not been properly present for him. Then she saw a later life. She was a wealthy woman riding a horse and he was a stable hand running just behind her. She said she felt responsible for him. Probably he was her legal property at that time. Then she saw another life - that I cannot recall. So while I was speaking with her, she sent heart light to him in this life and suddenly commented: Oh he feels more at peace now 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NorthWide Posted 4 hours ago 7 hours ago, Lairg said: Relationships are usually much more complex than they look. An hour ago a woman called me. She had met a man and had feelings for him that were complex. With a very little verbal prompting she saw she was his mother long ago in a mud hut. She felt she had not been properly present for him. Then she saw a later life. She was a wealthy woman riding a horse and he was a stable hand running just behind her. She said she felt responsible for him. Probably he was her legal property at that time. Then she saw another life - that I cannot recall. So while I was speaking with her, she sent heart light to him in this life and suddenly commented: Oh he feels more at peace now I am not always right. ⚠️ My ex-wiFe was a Narcissist that ran my life into the ground: sold all My chinese medicine books and Valubles. If you find she is... RUN. leaVe the state Share this post Link to post Share on other sites