phore Posted June 20, 2008 hey i have practiced hoshin tao chi kung level 1 on and off for a while i was wondering about some of the exercises do standing stakes (poles) develop internal power (convert chi to internal power (jin/jing) if not then what are their purpose there is also a solo exercise called push hands and pull hands that develops ling kong jing (void power) does anyone know how this works Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vajrasattva Posted June 21, 2008 (edited) hey i have practiced hoshin tao chi kung level 1 on and off for a while i was wondering about some of the exercises do standing stakes (poles) develop internal power (convert chi to internal power (jin/jing) if not then what are their purpose there is also a solo exercise called push hands and pull hands that develops ling kong jing (void power) does anyone know how this works FROM WHO????????????????????? If you learned from Rob Williams or Tao Semko or Myself you are in good hands. http://youtube.com/watch?v=UejisbXYjKM http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lEosiSZgKAA Edited June 21, 2008 by Vajrasattva Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
phore Posted June 21, 2008 i got a hoshin tao chi kung ebook on a cd, and the meditation mastery series from www.hoshin.com i emailed michael good if i had questions on the practice whats the difference between hoshin.com and hoshin.us do standing stakes develop internal power great videos thanks Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vajrasattva Posted June 21, 2008 (edited) i got a hoshin tao chi kung ebook on a cd, and the meditation mastery series from www.hoshin.com i emailed michael good if i had questions on the practice I do not know who Michael is nor did Glenn ever mention his name to me. Ok that explains it and explains why you are asking those questions. If you had trained with us you would know what they do from they word go. whats the difference between hoshin.com and hoshin.us I will not get into it here cause its political and truthfully sad but there is a HUGE difference. Hoshin.us has my FULL ENDORSEMENT. If you have Glenn's audio meditation mastery that is good stuff. Keep using it. do standing stakes develop internal power Indeed What version are you doing? When you get a chance you should come train with Rob Williams, Tao Semko or myself. great videos thanks Glad you dig them! More Real Hoshin & KAP/ Tenaga Batin God Bless, Santiago Dobles Edited June 21, 2008 by Vajrasattva Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
phore Posted June 21, 2008 push hands/ pull hands (ling kong jing) concentrating on palms of the hands. breath in going forward breath out going backwards stand feet shoulder width apart drop right leg back raise hands from side of body to sternum area palms down push hands out (right hand goes right left goes left) as you shift your weight forward repeat 36 times feet back to shoulder width drop left leg back raise hands to side of body palms down push hands out ( right goes left, left goes right) as you shift weight forward repeat 36 times spiral chi to hara follow with standing stakes the standing stakes it advised 2 minutes each posture 6 postures feet shoulder width apart 1 palms facing down at heart level 2 palms facing up at heart level 3 palms facing each other at 3rd chakra level 4 left hand at heart facing down, right hand at hara facing up 5 right hand at heart facing down, left hand at hara facing up 6 arms at throat or third eye in tree hugging position in meditation position let chi circulate for 5-20 min thanks Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vajrasattva Posted June 21, 2008 push hands/ pull hands (ling kong jing) concentrating on palms of the hands. breath in going forward breath out going backwards stand feet shoulder width apart drop right leg back raise hands from side of body to sternum area palms down push hands out (right hand goes right left goes left) as you shift your weight forward repeat 36 times feet back to shoulder width drop left leg back raise hands to side of body palms down push hands out ( right goes left, left goes right) as you shift weight forward repeat 36 times spiral chi to hara follow with standing stakes the standing stakes it advised 2 minutes each posture 6 postures feet shoulder width apart 1 palms facing down at heart level 2 palms facing up at heart level 3 palms facing each other at 3rd chakra level 4 left hand at heart facing down, right hand at hara facing up 5 right hand at heart facing down, left hand at hara facing up 6 arms at throat or third eye in tree hugging position in meditation position let chi circulate for 5-20 min thanks Some of this is all Paul Dong & Sifu Mooney's stuff. Glenn & Mooney where friends. This is not what Glenn did himself to build energy and "empty force". I do not know where you got this from but its NOT in the original Hoshin Tao Chi Kung Manual nor is it the stuff Glenn Showed me nor the early Hoshin Tao Chi Kung CERTIFIED instructors such as Soke Rob who has probably the MOST training time with Glenn Morris aside from Dr. John Porter. Peace Santiago Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
phore Posted June 21, 2008 i think that the course was made by mark lawrence in your opinion would the exercises work well what is the purpose of the ta mos cave meditation do you offer private training lessons. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vajrasattva Posted June 21, 2008 i think that the course was made by mark lawrence in your opinion would the exercises work well Yea they would work but again its not what Glenn did. If you want that you should come see me or Rob Williams or Tao Semko. We do not deal with mark at all. God bless him I wish him the best but proof is in the pudding. what is the purpose of the ta mos cave meditation Activate lucid dream work, open upper centers, astral & void travel, manifestation, Phowa, healing, enhancing brain functions, shamanic path work. do you offer private training lessons. Yes where are you located? Santiago Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
phore Posted June 21, 2008 i live around fort smith arkansas. how much does the training usually cost thats waht it seemed like it would be useful for but on the meditation mastery tapes glenn said that ta mos cave was especially for martial artists. how so? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vajrasattva Posted June 21, 2008 (edited) Tenaga Dalam & Hoshin Tao Chi Kung in application http://youtube.com/watch?v=XkI03kElc5E enjoy This is one of my students who is a KAP 1 grads & Silat Students. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L_TyqJ0BPAA Peace Santiago Edited June 21, 2008 by Vajrasattva Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
phore Posted June 22, 2008 (edited) these videos are awesome is there a book that teaches the techniques to develop this hoshin budos websight says their coming out with a psionicist course this fall(i think) that does the psionicist course teach they also have a hoshin healing course what does this teach (any secret sword it sounds pretty cool) what is tenaga dalam thanks edit hey when you said that you were going back into your cave on your good bye thread did you mean ta mos cave Edited June 22, 2008 by phore Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vajrasattva Posted June 22, 2008 these videos are awesome Thanks Brother they are a work in progress. is there a book that teaches the techniques to develop this I do not have one on it yet. I do not know of one commercially other than some very EXPENSIVE courses out there. I am learning Ilmu Batin through my Silat Gurus. A lot of it coincides with what I learned in Trul Khor from Bonpo & also Hoshin Tao Chi Kung & KAP. Its been refined and used for the purpose of Martial arts and healing for centuries. I am very grateful to my teachers for sharing it with me. Its a real gem from the Creator. Its been a hidden Gem in the Sufi traditions & Silat traditions for centuries. hoshin budos websight says their coming out with a psionicist course this fall(i think) that does the psionicist course teach That is a good course I am ranked in Psionics through Dr. Porter. Infact he will be at my silat camp next week teaching psionics & Fire walking. Psionics is a lot of stuff that is similar to what Dr. Morris did. Its the brain child of Dr. John Porter. It is a lot of Mind of matter stuff, Astral Travel, remote Viewing, Mikkyo Mandala work & super brain activity. Dr. Porter is a Great teacher and a true master in Internal arts. He was Glenn's oldest student and Colleague. He was with Glenn when they both trained with Stephen Hayes. Needless to say you should ask him who is who in HOSHIN....he has been there the longest. they also have a hoshin healing course what does this teach (any secret sword it sounds pretty cool) The healing course is actually Yin & Yang and Chi Massage techniques developed by Soke Rob Williams & Glenn Dr. Morris. It is a very good course for hands on healing. I know Rob is developing a lot of new its not "new" but its finally going to be public. He is amazing. You should visit him one day. I call him the ICE man cause he can run his chi so cold it burns you like Icey-Hot. He is a great Healer. In Kap you learn Energy Healing (the basics or foundation) . Soke Rob also teaches that side of things in his GREEN (wind) belt in Hoshin just like Dr. Morris did. Eventually there will be more Hoshin Tao Chi Kung Dvds and courses from Soke Rob & Myself that will be updated and also will have the stuff Glenn actually did. and also stuff that we added and taught to Glenn. See Glenn taught us to fish for ourselves and then expect to teach him later on down the road. That is his concept of GIRI. So that way he was ALWAYS learning and returning to the "WHITE" belt. what is tenaga dalam Means Inner Power. It is the outcome of Kundalini Activation and breath work. It is part of PENCAK SILAT. a lot of what is in there coincidentally is in KAP. Which is why i like it so much. Its the internal Side of Silat. At its high levels its "ILMU BATIN" or "ILMU KEBATINAN" Its a very refined art of Spirituality, Shakti activation, Devotion to the Creator, Self Defense, Healing, and esoteric Magic, or mysticism. thanks edit hey when you said that you were going back into your cave on your good bye thread did you mean ta mos cave Yes Damos, and also my home I had business and training to tend to. : ) Take care & God Bless, Santiago Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
phore Posted June 22, 2008 thanks for the help the psionicist course looks cool Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vajrasattva Posted June 24, 2008 thanks for the help the psionicist course looks cool Too bad you can not come this week to the Silat Camp. Dr. John Porter is teaching sunday psionics level 1 & guiding the fire walking in the same manner that Glenn Morris used to. Peace Santiago Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
phore Posted June 24, 2008 i didnt even know there was a silat camp. where is it held at. ok so my aikido dojo was part of the ki aikido (the japanede name means aikido with the mind and body unified) but then broke off with the dojo in japan. i have been practicing their aikitaiso or aiki exercises. have you had any experience with any of aikidos qigong exercises Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vajrasattva Posted June 24, 2008 i didnt even know there was a silat camp. where is it held at. ok so my aikido dojo was part of the ki aikido (the japanede name means aikido with the mind and body unified) but then broke off with the dojo in japan. i have been practicing their aikitaiso or aiki exercises. have you had any experience with any of aikidos qigong exercises camp starts tomorrow if you can come in for the weekend portion great! if not there will be a winter one aswell. I have only a little experience with aikido needless to say that person no longer does aikido and is doing silat with me full time. Grant it I am sure there are high level aikido guys I have not met any yet. God Bless Santiago Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jaloo Posted June 24, 2008 thanks for the help the psionicist course looks cool Dr. Porter and Soke Williams have a book available on Psionics through Lulu. http://www.lulu.com/content/1239075 Seems like it would provide a good grounding for the Psionics coursework. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vajrasattva Posted June 25, 2008 Dr. Porter and Soke Williams have a book available on Psionics through Lulu. http://www.lulu.com/content/1239075 Seems like it would provide a good grounding for the Psionics coursework. Its good stuff I read it before it was published. Dr. Porter will be here friday at my house. I can not wait to hang with him Silat camp starts tomorrow. Tenaga dalam, Hoshin tao Chi Kung, silat 8 hours a day! Peace Santiago Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jaloo Posted June 25, 2008 Its good stuff I read it before it was published. Dr. Porter will be here friday at my house. I can not wait to hang with him Silat camp starts tomorrow. Tenaga dalam, Hoshin tao Chi Kung, silat 8 hours a day! Peace Santiago I can't wait for the Winter camp, although I just realized HoshinFest is in October so I may see you before the next Silat camp. Have fun! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vajrasattva Posted June 25, 2008 I can't wait for the Winter camp, although I just realized HoshinFest is in October so I may see you before the next Silat camp. Have fun! Nice! Both should be great. Last year's hoshin fest was excellent. I will post details of the silat camp as we go along this week. We start in about 5 min : ) I will see what i can film and post aswell on youtube. Santiago Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
