mantak chia?

[Vajrasattva]

SO what is 5pb? Did I miss it?

 

 

Its a SECRET CODE : ) If i tell you or if anyone reveals it you will self combust!

 

Just kidding.

 

Its the last thing you learn in KAP 1. It was one of Glenn's strongest things he left us.

 

I will show it to you one day Scott when we meet.

 

Its in Pranic healing aswell but not so focused on. Usually most people over ride it as nothing but its one of the most POWERFUL things you can do for energy.

 

Infact its a big deal in Silat as well & Tenaga Batin.

God Bless

 

Santi

 

 

miami is pretty unforgiving and superficial so you won't catch me sitting in full lotus anytime soon in public but i do believe what you say has some merit and is at the very least worth investigating.

 

Yes i Know i was once arrested for meditating in lotus pose next to a Borders music & Cafe store in Coconut Grove when i was 19 doing the same stupid shit Drew does now....

 

Better to be more ninja about your practices in public. The USA as a whole is not too accepting of energy workers, yogis, etc.

 

 

Drew how old are you?

 

Peace

 

Santiago

Edited July 11, 2008 by Vajrasattva

[Qigong Boy]

I too have had bizarre experiences with female strangers displaying outrageously sexual behavior to me in public, and I wasn't even sitting in full lotus when these events occurred. And I'm not THAT good looking

 

So I too believe Drew is being honest.

[Jedi777]

Its a SECRET CODE : ) If i tell you or if anyone reveals it you will self combust!

 

Just kidding.

 

Its the last thing you learn in KAP 1. It was one of Glenn's strongest things he left us.

 

I will show it to you one day Scott when we meet.

 

Its in Pranic healing aswell but not so focused on. Usually most people over ride it as nothing but its one of the most POWERFUL things you can do for energy.

 

Infact its a big deal in Silat as well & Tenaga Batin.

God Bless

 

Santi

Yes i Know i was once arrested for meditating in lotus pose next to a Borders music & Cafe store in Coconut Grove when i was 19 doing the same stupid shit Drew does now....

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Better to be more ninja about your practices in public. The USA as a whole is not too accepting of energy workers, yogis, etc.

Drew how old are you?

 

Peace

 

Santiago

 

 

THANKS SANTIAGO!!

Edited July 11, 2008 by Jedi777

[Vajrasattva]

I too have had bizarre experiences with female strangers displaying outrageously sexual behavior to me in public, and I wasn't even sitting in full lotus when these events occurred. And I'm not THAT good looking

 

So I too believe Drew is being honest.

 

 

Chi will do that for sure. Drew is not "wrong" he is just how do i put it lightly......"SPACE CADET or carried away".

 

You do not need such extremes to be good with chi. You do not need Lotus pose either. And you certainly do not need to display you are swami lotusdickananda at mc donalds in lotus pose or in public. Infact in esoteric traditions its considered a BIG no no to display your stuff in public and or display asanas etc.

[Qigong Boy]

What if humanity is ready for the esoteric to become exoteric?

 

And Drew's O at Ds are the springboard, LOL

Edited July 11, 2008 by Qigong Boy

[neo]

 

Yes i Know i was once arrested for meditating in lotus pose next to a Borders music & Cafe store in Coconut Grove when i was 19 doing the same stupid shit Drew does now....

 

Better to be more ninja about your practices in public. The USA as a whole is not too accepting of energy workers, yogis, etc.

Drew how old are you?

 

Peace

 

Santiago

santiago, have you experienced an O at a D yourself?

[mantis]

you where arrested for sitting in full lotus? wow

 

it is indeed very possible i've experienced the first two "internal climaxes" drew talks about since he says he does them standing.

Edited July 11, 2008 by mantis

[mjjbecker]

What if humanity is ready for the esoteric to become exoteric?

 

And Drew's O at Ds are the springboard, LOL

 

Why don't you go and put that question to the local religious leaders in your community and see what their reaction is?

 

As per usual I agree with Santiago, so nothing much to add except I've had similar experiences, (except the arrested bit ).

 

Best,

 

Mike

[neo]

you where arrested for sitting in full lotus? wow

 

it is indeed very possible i've experienced the first two "internal climaxes" drew talks about since he says he does them standing.

could you tell if they were mutual?

[mjjbecker]

And it seems to me that peoples attraction to these 'O's at a D' seems to revolve around pleasure seeking, rather than cultivation.

 

So, maybe you should ask yourself what is the purpose of your training? If it is simply power seeking, then I hope you realise there will be consequences.

[Qigong Boy]

If you can get arrested for asking directions, you can get arrested for anything.

[Vajrasattva]

And it seems to me that peoples attraction to these 'O's at a D' seems to revolve around pleasure seeking, rather than cultivation.

 

So, maybe you should ask yourself what is the purpose of your training? If it is simply power seeking, then I hope you realise there will be consequences.

 

 

Exactly. mjjbecker is on the money once again.

[nomad]

My intuition tells me that Drew is 37 years old...

[mantis]

And it seems to me that peoples attraction to these 'O's at a D' seems to revolve around pleasure seeking, rather than cultivation.

 

So, maybe you should ask yourself what is the purpose of your training? If it is simply power seeking, then I hope you realise there will be consequences.

 

well to be blatantly honest my goal is pleasure for now, i think drew said this somewhere as well (that he's just "fooling around"). at this point in my life i don't really want to be enlightened, i'm weird enough as is.

 

neo, i'd say it depends. i don't know if they where getting some type of pleasure from looking at me or bouncing their feet (i'm not a woman) but i've witnessed the behavior drew details is somewhat congruent with what i see.

[neo]

And it seems to me that peoples attraction to these 'O's at a D' seems to revolve around pleasure seeking, rather than cultivation.

 

So, maybe you should ask yourself what is the purpose of your training? If it is simply power seeking, then I hope you realise there will be consequences.

true statement.

 

however, (maybe its only because i have young eyes), it seems like os at a d can be used to relieve personal stress and the stress of others.

 

i guess its one's intention

[Vajrasattva]

santiago, have you experienced an O at a D yourself?

 

 

Please come pay me a visit whenever you wish to see what I have experienced.

 

I would be glad to share with you. Drew the invitation is also extended to you.

 

Peace

 

Santiago

 

you where arrested for sitting in full lotus? wow

 

 

 

they basically escorted me out of the grove! said I was not allowed to do hari krishna shit on public ground!

 

Meanwhile i was just doing Laya Yoga in Lotus pose.

[Smile]

If I was talking like Drew, my teacher would beat me with a stick. And rightly so.

[voidisyinyang]

Well there's a lot of "drew" comments and questions but people seem to forget that the ability to see white light around people is from what the book "Taoist Yoga: Alchemy and Immortality" trans. by Charles Luk calls:

 

Pre-Natal Vitality. It's the product of negative vitality (electrochemical energy) and positive vitality (electromagnetic energy).

 

Pre-Natal Vitality restores health, enables healing others, and promotes longevity.

 

So when you get to about chapter 12 in Taoist Yoga (gave my copies away to coworkers as usual) -- the writer states that at this stage in the practice you will be able to have this "O at a D" ability. It, of course, doesn't explain it with that term. haha. Then the book says that doing this will keep you healthy but that's it. Also the book says don't do this since it will just encourage females to want more of it.

 

That gets to the heart of the matter doesn't it. Qigong master Chunyi Lin told me to focus on just healing myself as healing others was "too dangerous." This might have to do with that after I did my 8 day bigu fast (just half a glass of water and LOTS of full-lotus, small universe, tai-chi, etc.) -- I then was asked to do a healing by this old lady at a Spring Forest Qigong guild meeting. Jim Nance had just asked me to share my bigu experience with the group (this was before he became a qigong master). So anyway I opened up her small orbit and was pulling out the energy blockages after I had broken them up with the sword fingers (no touching). I FORGOT that qigong master Chunyi Lin had said never pull the energy out from the top of the head. I did this accidently, not realizing my strength, in contrast to her weakness. She was sitting and I was standing to her side and slightly to her back -- she couldn't see what I was doing. Right when I pulled from the top of her head by accident I felt this electromagnetic weight come out of the top of her head -- and right when I felt it she started bawling. Not crying but bawling. She kept bawling for at least 15 minutes because someone else took her aside and then the group closed down -- and I met up with a friend of mine who was downstairs in another group meeting. As we left I saw her walking down the hall being comforted by someone and STILL crying. I told my friend, "you're never going to believe what just happened." I saw her later on at another meeting (we never exchanged words after she started bawling). She smiled at me and understood that my intentions were good.

 

So Santiago is correct that these "O at a Ds" are essentially just tension relievers -- yet still a long ways away from the typical modern male abilities in exchange with females. Also it should be noted that the vagus nerve ALSO transduces the anerobic bacteria along with the serotonin. So this energy can go through walls, floors and as far as the eyes can see, etc., but in order to get out of the pineal gland the brain also fills up with not just serotonin but also the smelly crap. It's what I call "full body digestion." Maybe it's why tantriks eat shit. haha. My diet is ghetto grunge so I just eat a lot of garlic and use soap. I plan to switch my saponin source from soap to spinach when I get some "money." After I did my 8 day bigu fast (on just half a glass of water!) I switched to a meat diet; was eating out of dumpsters; then fast-food and recently switched to a sardine diet. I had been vegetarian for 15 years so I'm slowly making my way back. haha.

 

I sit in full-lotus where ever -- I often go to this evangelical Christian drop-in center and have O at a Ds with the females there as well. Having "O at a Ds" with my mom, sisters and neice is a bit taboo but I just sit in full-lotus and the energy flows. Electromagnetic energy out and suck in by the females, electrochemical out of the females and sucked in by the full-lotus. Last time I sat in full-lotus in the back seat of my parent's car and my mom was in front of me. We had a couple O at a Ds and then she gave me $40. haha.

 

On that note I'll quote from my current book (I read a book a day on average).

 

"The difference between men and women I guess. Hell, I'd hand over the keys to the Pentagon for the right piece of ass." -- a U.S. general organizing the seductive downfall of the Prime Minister's associate and assassination of Seychelles Prime Minister France-Alberte Rene, p. 241, "The Secret History of the American Empire" by John Perkins, 2007.

[Vajrasattva]

Well there's a lot of "drew" comments and questions but people seem to forget that the ability to see white light around people is from what the book "Taoist Yoga: Alchemy and Immortality" trans. by Charles Luk calls:

I teach people how to do this in 5 minutes. It requires a "soft Focus" and an ability to relax & use your ajna chakra.

 

People have been viewing auras for centuries and it again has nothing to do with Lotus pose fasting etc. Sure those things can give you side effects but it can be shown and accessedwith out much effort once you know.

 

Chunyi Lin had said never pull the energy out from the top of the head.

 

Pull what energy? your clients? or the person you are doing healing on?

 

What if they have Tumor in brain? What you are not allowed to clean the Crown Chakra?

 

Please be specific here cause sounds like there is something missing or OFF.

 

So Santiago is correct that these "O at a Ds" are essentially just tension relievers -- yet still a long ways away from the typical modern male abilities in exchange with females. Also it should be noted that the vagus nerve ALSO transduces the anerobic bacteria along with the serotonin. So this energy can go through walls, floors and as far as the eyes can see, etc., but in order to get out of the pineal gland the brain also fills up with not just serotonin but also the smelly crap. It's what I call "full body digestion." Maybe it's why tantriks eat shit. haha. My diet is ghetto grunge so I just eat a lot of garlic and use soap. I plan to switch my saponin source from soap to spinach when I get some "money." After I did my 8 day bigu fast (on just half a glass of water!) I switched to a meat diet; was eating out of dumpsters; then fast-food and recently switched to a sardine diet. I had been vegetarian for 15 years so I'm slowly making my way back. haha.

 

It is not difficult at all to connect with females or any being and exchange energy. Again it is not something that comes from YEARS of doing Lotus. I can show you in 5 minutes how to do it.

It all ready happens on a small scale as we interact with the world & its beings.

 

If you know how to circulate chi & breath properly you can exchange energy with ANYONE or anything.

 

Now you better have a strong tummo or transmutation otherwise you may accuire "new" things and not always clean or good. People can have unseen attachments that like to feed on people with energy especially those that do not know how to protect against this.

 

When you circulate chi you are also circulating the karmas and the subtle information so you hve to be careful and its not something you do just to do it or for the pleasure or the power.

 

Better to circulate with the Universe and let the universe decide how your chi is used.

 

We used to give women orgasm on the spot with Dr>morris and I playing around with chi circulations in public but not telling the ladies.

 

It is VERY fun but again I must caution you you are also circulating karma, and both good & the bad so you better know what you are doing. It opens a lot of things and maybe that person is not meant to open up so fast yt..so again you have to be considerate. LET THE UNIVERSE DECIDE . I could give shaktipat to a lot of people But I let the creator tell me who.

Its not something you play around with like a toy. At first you do cause its exciting but this is normal everyone goes through that little kid stage. Eventually you mature energetically.

 

I will only exchange with people if I am doing Tong len or some form of transmutation for them if they can't do it for themselves. Or if the environment is bad or I sense somethiung bad about to happen i will do this to transmute so things go "smoother". But again its not something you do ALL the time. You mess with Karma on a big level so you have to know when to and when not to. Part of the path is also knowing when to step back and let things Be.

 

I also exchange with My KAP & Silat students so they learn faster. Take once Give back twice....

 

That is the best advice i can give you so YOU DO NOT ENDUP OWING ANY UNSEEN KARMA that can creep up on you when you least expect it.

 

I sit in full-lotus where ever -- I often go to this evangelical Christian drop-in center and have O at a Ds with the females there as well. Having "O at a Ds" with my mom, sisters and neice is a bit taboo but I just sit in full-lotus and the energy flows. Electromagnetic energy out and suck in by the females, electrochemical out of the females and sucked in by the full-lotus. Last time I sat in full-lotus in the back seat of my parent's car and my mom was in front of me. We had a couple O at a Ds and then she gave me $40. haha.

 

Drew you should stare into a mirror with a candle to see who also is enjoying this practice of yours...do not be surprised to find you have some attachments. Border line Vampiric & some that are part of the Hungry Ghost realm...

 

 

Peace and come play some day. My training ground is open.

 

Peace

 

Santiago

[宁]

wasn't this the mantak chia thread?

[voidisyinyang]

Yeah Santiago -- I discovered this book last night:

 

http://astore.amazon.com/dream-healer-20/d...5829078-6864820

 

Adam pulls this "green blob" out of this lady's head -- actually his mom! -- and she's immediately healed. haha.

 

Now back to our "main program."

[witch]

Please come pay me a visit whenever you wish to see what I have experienced.

 

I would be glad to share with you. Drew the invitation is also extended to you.

 

Peace

 

Santiago

 

Does that invitation extend to me? I think you could answer a lot of the questions that drew me to this board in the first place.

 

-Marrena

[witch]

Interesting. I didn't know I was restricted, I guess I am--good to know! Just as well, Miami is pretty far away from Boston. With Master Max I was personally frightened, with you I am not allowed.

 

My curiosity is only for information anyhow. You have many pricey DVD courses there on your website. Which one will tell me all about male sexual sixth chakra ability? If you direct me to the right one I will buy it.

[Vajrasattva]

Interesting. I didn't know I was restricted, I guess I am--good to know! Just as well, Miami is pretty far away from Boston. With Master Max I was personally frightened, with you I am not allowed.

 

My curiosity is only for information anyhow. You have many pricey DVD courses there on your website. Which one will tell me all about male sexual sixth chakra ability? If you direct me to the right one I will buy it.

 

 

who said you are not allowed?

 

 

 

Invitation is to anyone sincere who wants to learn or play with energy.

 

Peace

 

Santiago

[witch]

I didn't realize I had a master until this weekend. I guess I do, my Jungian animus is throwing its weight around.

 

Anyhow, I'm pretty handy already with playing with energy. That's why I was confused in the other thread on shaktipat, because on another board I was describing my experiences and the people there said I was pouring out shaktipat, and then all of a sudden I had men offering to fly to meet me to get it, offering to pay me. That flustered me so I left the board, but that was my only exposure to the term so I thought it was a girl thing, especially with "shakti" in the name.

 

Basically what I do is this--I have dozens, sometimes over a hundred vaginal orgasms every day, without ejaculation, and that builds up this huge pulsing ball of energy that rises to the center of my chest. I ejaculate that energy into men's chests or alternately in a form of I guess tantric masturbation, imagining a man's chest as I ejaculate the energy. Doing this sometimes causes me to faint, but it generally triggers an automatic arching of the back, sometimes my whole body is thrown into a bridge if I am lying down, and the center of my chest literally spasms in orgasmic contractions, with the same timing as a normal orgasm. If I don't do this every few days I get the tantric girl equivalent of blue balls. I get really fratchety, my chest starts to hurt, etc. I can make it go away by G-spot stimulation and multiple ejaculations, but that's really hard work.

 

This has been happening to me for the last several years, might be five years now. I have a question about that, I generally have one go-to guy at a time, for fantasy purposes. Do I have to worry that the heart energy is actually going anywhere?

 

But my more pressing question is about the boy equivalent. From what I can glean, energy exchange like this forms a figure 8. Men give sexual energy to women by typical ejaculation during sex, women give men energy back with this sort of heart chakra orgasm, and I'm pretty sure men can return the favor through the forehead, because I've had a very sexual opening up in the middle of my forehead. I'm pretty sure that's a place for receiving energy, it feels really, well, vaginal up there, so I'm assuming that men can ejaculate energy from there into a woman. I want to learn more about this, so if you talk about this on your DVD's or whatnot, I'm buying.

 

The thing that originally brought me to this board was one time when I was aiming for a sixth chakra orgasm I happened to be sitting up at my desk, so instead of having a regular sixth chakra orgasm it oozed out the top of my head, like a bubble trapped underwater escaping. It was interesting but I didn't much care for the experience. Once was enough! I like my self, the loss of self one with the cosmos thing was something to experience, but I'm not in pursuit of it the way most other people are into the crown chakra orgasm thing. But Taomeow answered my questions about that, so I'm reassured.

 

So really it's the male sixth chakra information I want to know, much like a twelve-year-old girl wondering about what boys are like "down there."

Edited July 13, 2008 by witch