Mantra68 Posted September 13, 2008 I see where you are coming from but please let me explain. I am not for an "uninformed" opinion of course. In this case Chris gives his *inside* opinion and Patrick his *outside* opinion, both informed by their vision of the matter. Chris in fact has tried the practice so his "information" comes from inside, so to speak. Patrick has seen a video and has read various comments. He has therefore an outside information. So they are both informed, thou in a different way. Inside information is usually better, with this I agree, but it can be tricky. That's why as I said they have both pros and cons. Let me ask you. Who do you think is in a better position to understand what's going on here: those sitting and experiencing the matter or us watching the video ? http://tw.youtube.com/watch?v=-DylNVUN_3I&...feature=related Best YM YM, I know we don't know each other but I find your logic amazing. In fact, following your logic I would like to give you my opinion of your family. Now, bear in mind that I don't know any members of your family personally, but I have heard some things (I think). I may insult some of them with what I have to say, but that is OK because I am certainly entitled to my outside opinion. Shall we start with your mother? You see, my opinion and your opinion are equally valid,...but only in retard land. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Patrick Brown Posted September 13, 2008 (edited) YM, I know we don't know each other but I find your logic amazing. In fact, following your logic I would like to give you my opinion of your family. Now, bear in mind that I don't know any members of your family personally, but I have heard some things (I think). I may insult some of them with what I have to say, but that is OK because I am certainly entitled to my outside opinion. Shall we start with your mother? You see, my opinion and your opinion are equally valid,...but only in retard land. Yes that's very amusing Mantra but probably counter productive because your argument is flawed. You probably don't know anything about YM's mother but we DO know stuff about Max. In fact all you've done is make people like me want to dig deeper and find out more about Max. There's been several threads here at TTB's that have tried to discredit Max from several different angles and I really do have to wonder if all the info was true. The only way I can know about Max is to do my research. Yes meeting him would be a start but then should I believe everything he says? And one last thing, why is he wearing a funny hat in the movie trailer? Edited September 13, 2008 by Patrick Brown Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Patrick Brown Posted September 13, 2008 OK I found this thread on tribe.net and I'll give it a read although I have to read the Google cache as I'm blocked from tribe.net (I called the admin a c**t which he didn't ban me for but when I left the place he blocked my IP so I was right about him all along! ): http://tibetanbuddhism.tribe.net/thread/fd...10-39a7a7082c24 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Patrick Brown Posted September 13, 2008 (edited) I know it's only someone's opinion but if nothing else it shows how poorly conceived the movie trailer was: I think this is BS. 1) Watch the movie twice. Take a concentrated effort at looking at the faces of the people he is "engaging". The easiest is the last dude in the orange shirt, looks like some bloke off the street. He even takes cue off camera, looking for a translation from english to "hit me with anger". Once you are familiar with the faces... 2) go to the website, and look at a photo of the only 4 people in the world authorized to "teach" this. The same people as in the video! Just like another Chris Angel episode, the "victims" are just actors in a scripted play. source: http://breakfornews.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=3295 Max on MySpace: http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseacti...ideoid=13312251 Edited September 13, 2008 by Patrick Brown Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
YMWong Posted September 13, 2008 YM, I know we don't know each other but I find your logic amazing. In fact, following your logic I would like to give you my opinion of your family. Now, bear in mind that I don't know any members of your family personally, but I have heard some things (I think). I may insult some of them with what I have to say, but that is OK because I am certainly entitled to my outside opinion. Shall we start with your mother? You see, my opinion and your opinion are equally valid,...but only in retard land. Chris, the day you see a video of my mom in a brothel and read articles about her night job I'd be delighted to hear what you have to say. Before that, and before you have the faintest idea if she is still alive or not, I am afraid yours would not be an "outside opinion" but a work of fantasy. Which you can keep and hold on to, of course YM Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mantra68 Posted September 13, 2008 Chris, the day you see a video of my mom in a brothel and read articles about her night job I'd be delighted to hear what you have to say. Before that, and before you have the faintest idea if she is still alive or not, I am afraid yours would not be an "outside opinion" but a work of fantasy. Which you can keep and hold on to, of course YM Now we are getting closer to the truth. Outside opinion and work of fantasy hold hands in this world and are taken as fact by others on the outside. By the way, I was just illustrating a point about your family. I am sure they are great. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
YMWong Posted September 13, 2008 Now we are getting closer to the truth. Yours or mine ? YM Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mantra68 Posted September 13, 2008 I know it's only someone's opinion but if nothing else it shows how poorly conceived the movie trailer was: Max on MySpace: http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseacti...ideoid=13312251 And one last thing, why is he wearing a funny hat in the movie trailer? The Japanese fellow in the video is Kan. He is a chi gung master and from Japan. He is an amazing person and many of you here have met him. Kan has since reached Gold Dragon body as witnessed by a crowd at Starbucks in Japan. Very funny. I guess you could look at the video and think it is fake, but it isn't. People laugh because there is a blissful element to everything Max does. So when you go reeling back it is strong, but the intent is blissful and you feel it. And the hat is what they call a Taoist hat. You see, Max is from a TAOIST tradition. Patrick, I don't dislike you at all, but you come out pissin' and swearin' about things that you just don't understand yet. Give yourself some time bra. Reserve judgement and you will see like others have that everything we have said is true. By the way, you should see the stuff I didn't put in the trailer...it gets freaky. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gendao Posted September 13, 2008 (edited) On the Internet, conflict brings attention. The more eyeballs reading about Max, the better for your cause, even with people saying idiotic things about him and you.And let's face it - all of us here secretly enjoy some conflict and drama - or we wouldn't be here. Debates get awfully boring when everyone agrees.. So, I think people seek a balance of both commonality and conflict in life. Edited August 20, 2012 by vortex Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ToL Posted September 13, 2008 By the way, you should see the stuff I didn't put in the trailer...it gets freaky. Chris, maybe you can put more videos in the site? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Patrick Brown Posted September 13, 2008 Chris, maybe you can put more videos in the site? Perhaps a video uploaded to youtube of Max giving his free seminar might be worth trying? I mean you can always take it down if people get negative. Judging from what I read on many other forums and blogs it might be a good idea to take the movie trailer down. Might do more harm than good in the long run to leave it up. I would like to see some more of Max although I'm really not interested in all the siddhis/energy type stuff as it would just be nice just to hear Max talk. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mantra68 Posted September 13, 2008 (edited) Perhaps a video uploaded to youtube of Max giving his free seminar might be worth trying? I mean you can always take it down if people get negative. Judging from what I read on many other forums and blogs it might be a good idea to take the movie trailer down. Might do more harm than good in the long run to leave it up. I would like to see some more of Max although I'm really not interested in all the siddhis/energy type stuff as it would just be nice just to hear Max talk. I agree. Siddhis don't matter. It is nice to use them to help people but the real objective of what Max teaches is spiritual liberation. I'll see what I can do about uploading more audio. I have hours worth of pretty good stuff. Edited September 13, 2008 by Mantra68 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
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satyagraha Posted September 13, 2008 (edited) HELL YEAH CHRIS TAKE NO PRISONERS!!!! I got your back brother!!! Cover Fire!!! You flank em' Ill Storm these the rebel forces from the rear!! Edited September 13, 2008 by satyagraha Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Spirit Ape Posted September 13, 2008 Mantra, Leave the clip up who cares about what Patrick says here its fine by most of us! Also what other freaky stuff do you have of Max and students care to share some information here? Spirit Ape Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Patrick Brown Posted September 13, 2008 Mantra, Leave the clip up who cares about what Patrick says here its fine by most of us! Also what other freaky stuff do you have of Max and students care to share some information here? Spirit Ape Do you come from Texas? Hmm?! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Disabled Not Broken Posted August 19, 2012 (edited) Nagas Are Saturated In Qi Lore: Started by Disabled Not Broken http://thetaobums.co...ted-in-qi-lore/ I read that i think Max said some of the Daoist methods can be traced to Egypt, can anyone elaborate? Anyone know the lineage of this golden flower how it has survived and how Max learned it? What does it do etc? WYG Edited August 19, 2012 by Disabled Not Broken Share this post Link to post Share on other sites