Six stages of Awakening experience

[Sunya]

http://awakeningtoreality.blogspot.com/200...experience.html

 

found this very interesting as it presents the personal experiences of breaking through from ego to transpersonal witness to unity consciousness and then non-dual presence

 

another great article on the same site, quotes from Ken Wilber on the distinction between Witness and Non-Dual

 

http://awakeningtoreality.blogspot.com/200...ity-by-ken.html

[exorcist_1699]

Unfortunately it seems both links are far from Enlightenment.

 

One is still in that pool of still , stagnant water, the "dragon " has not appeared;

 

One is trapped in philosophical reasoning .

[xabir2005]

Edited August 10, 2008 by xabir2005

[exorcist_1699]

Both Buddhism and Taoism target at nourshing something totally new , alive and vigorous from emptiness/nothingness, ie, attaining the Real-Void .

 

It is a status of dynamic , not something stagnant, a ripple-less mindlessness ; Nor is it a very peaceful feeling , passive unity of oneself with the external world/ universe..etc . More likely it is an abrupt openning of an unseen door before you , a sudden appearance of a bottomless hole beneath you ....an unexpected pop-up of another new , powerful Mind ( in Buddhist term: Enlightenment )or Person ( in Taoist term : the divine fetus ) from your body , not always peaceful , sometimes even scaring ; maybe something like a small ,trivial mammal, which originally live among trees , searching for small insects and fruits so as to have itself fed on, one day suddenly wakes up from its dream , and find that itself has become a human being , with a total new consciousness and power.

 

Pseudo-Void ,although giving people good feeling , is unproductive in the end , therefore is the main trap in the Buddhist cultivation.

 

On the other hand, attachment to sex pleasure/practice , or those wonderful feelings of qi arising from our body at the stage of transforming jing to qi , is the main trap in Taoist cultivation.

Edited August 11, 2008 by exorcist_1699

[Patrick Brown]

[mjjbecker]

I personally don't find bottomless pits much fun myself much better to just follow the light and bow to the infinite with great respect.

 

Indeed.

[exorcist_1699]

Comparing with Enlightenment , our present consciousness is just a status of dreaming .

 

In fact , similar to matter, consciousness consists of many layers , or endless layers. Just like peeling off an extreme clear onion's skin , there are many layers to go. And, the deeper you go , the clearer a mind you attain , the more a power you gain...unfortunately , it also means more challenges/ dangers you have to face ; however, if we stick to the right way, not distracted by something evil, then as Confucius said : "those who equipped with high morals are free of worries and fear "

Edited August 12, 2008 by exorcist_1699

[xabir2005]

Edited August 11, 2008 by xabir2005

[exorcist_1699]

In fact, spiritual cultivation does require an ability different from science or arts, maybe you can call those who are especially strong in this area religious talents/ genius.

 

Fortunately, with the establishment of taoist jing-qi-shen framework , people can grasp the steps and identify the phenomena easier , and , there are a lot of guidelines to follow .

 

In Buddhist cultivation , an ability to grasp the core of Awakening in one stroke , skipping all those trivial things ,layers and reasoning , is important .

 

Unlike Taoism , Buddhist way is expressed in many personal experiences , and , they are always subjective and difficult to share with other people ; In most cases, you have to go to a much competent master , tell him what you have experienced spiritually so as to get a proof . Quite the contrast , for example , the completion of transforming jing to qi in Taoist cultivation is clear-cut , you yourself know whether you succeed it or not .

[xabir2005]

Edited August 12, 2008 by xabir2005

[exorcist_1699]

Edited August 13, 2008 by exorcist_1699

[Patrick Brown]

[Patrick Brown]

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