phore Posted October 19, 2008 So ive read the Law of Attraction, and am working on ask and it is given They seem to be the most practical and simple guides for LoA ive ever come across. Abraham is a spirit guide not Abremelin the mage, the founder of judaism. It teaches you to use your emotions as a guide, to turn every moment of your life into spiritual practice, and of course how to use your mind to create anything you want in your life. It has some great processes like segmenting intent, the creative workshop, and the rampage of appreciation. I love it, and would highly recommend it. Has anyone else had any experience with this. http://www.abraham-hicks.com/lawofattractionsource/index.php 3 book set teachings of abraham on amazon for $26, free shipping Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
i_am_sam Posted October 19, 2008 I read Conversations with God recently, I think it has some good stuff on LoA within. First published 1993(?) wondered if it was the basis for a lot of the work you see around today. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
i_am_sam Posted October 19, 2008 (edited) deleted double post Edited October 20, 2008 by i_am_sam Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vajrasattva Posted October 20, 2008 So ive read the Law of Attraction, and am working on ask and it is given They seem to be the most practical and simple guides for LoA ive ever come across. Abraham is a spirit guide not Abremelin the mage, the founder of judaism. It teaches you to use your emotions as a guide, to turn every moment of your life into spiritual practice, and of course how to use your mind to create anything you want in your life. It has some great processes like segmenting intent, the creative workshop, and the rampage of appreciation. I love it, and would highly recommend it. Has anyone else had any experience with this. http://www.abraham-hicks.com/lawofattractionsource/index.php 3 book set teachings of abraham on amazon for $26, free shipping Its good this is watered down "Ilmu Kebatinan". Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ToL Posted October 20, 2008 Abraham is a spirit guide not Abremelin the mage, the founder of judaism. I didn't read all the books of Abremelin the mage, but does it refer to Abraham the founder of judaism? Maybe I misunderstood.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Taoist81 Posted October 20, 2008 I didn't read all the books of Abremelin the mage, but does it refer to Abraham the founder of judaism? Maybe I misunderstood.. No, the Abraham in the Abramelin book (the alleged author) is not, nor is he claimed to be, the founder of Judaism. He simply shares the name with the father of Isaac. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Yoda Posted October 20, 2008 the wiki has a good writeup on it. It definitely saved my marriage... if something is my fault I'm *much* quicker to forgive. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Law_of_Attraction So LOA basically says "Ask and ye shall receive" and if you can relax, it'll come to you.* My problem with the approach is that only one in a million adults are capable of relaxing. It's easy enough to be relaxed about desiring your next breath or a glass of water, but how about making real spiritual progress or improving something very near and dear? Tougher situation. One channeled source made this their criticism of the LOA and said that you are better off sticking with a tried and true alchemical/magical/spiritual system east or west that has assembled a particular group of practices, rituals, and beliefs which will teach the secret ingredients of loving, relaxing, and allowing. *Strictly speaking, Abraham's LOA says that "Ask and ye shall receive" is literally true. Everyone receives fulfillment of every single desire they ever had, large or small, without exception. But it is often the case that one has to die in order to relax for the desire to be fulfilled. (I'm assuming that the shiny red Camero, prom date, etc doesn't get served up in the afterlife, but the essential energy pf fulfillment and joy does.) PS Abraham was asked why they chose that name and they said that it puts them first in the phone book. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ToL Posted October 20, 2008 PS Abraham was asked why they chose that name and they said that it puts them first in the phone book. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ataraxis Posted October 20, 2008 Abraham just happens to be the more commercial of the spooks that give info, but according to several opinions, mine included, not the least distorted one and not the first one addressing the general public as you can Google Seth +Jane Roberts and find several books dictated by that conciousness trough JR in the 70s. After JR died, a women by the name of Mary Ennis took the stage as she began to channel an entity addressed as Elias who for most is the real deal. www.eliasforum.org Elias clearly states "Thought does NOT create reality, perception does". My 2 cents, hope it helps. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
phore Posted October 21, 2008 (edited) I didn't read all the books of Abremelin the mage, but does it refer to Abraham the founder of judaism? Maybe I misunderstood.. Sorry i must have read that book incorrectly I should have said Abraham maslow the founder of judiasm Is solomon from The lesser and greater key of solomon the same person I dont know if it would be easy to get where your going using only these techniques without meditation. It definitely enhances kunlun, and the Mantra practices i have been using. I have read Gonversations with god. Walsh highly recommends the teachings of abraham series. He wrote the introduction to Law of Attraction I will have to check out this Ilmu Kebatinan. Thanks santiago. Edited October 21, 2008 by phore Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Yoda Posted October 21, 2008 Ataraxis, I'm a huge Esther fan, but she's geared for popular consumption and isn't very up on advanced yoga practices sort of thing. How is your channel on spiritual cultivation practices? Also Esther is famous for valuing selfishness over altruism, as the philosophy of altruism is often a form of social control. She does say that if you are very wise, you'll love all sentient beings as yourself, but it's not her main thrust. How's your girl on that one? Your pal, Yoda Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ToL Posted October 21, 2008 Is solomon from The lesser and greater key of solomon the same person It might be, altough I will give you a little key myself.. I think in hermeticism they say that Solomon can be also: Sol Om On Wich, is 3 different words for Sun. But, who knows? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Yoda Posted October 21, 2008 They address the concept of multiple -linear time- lives called focuses v.s. traditional reincarnation concept, one part of the Shift being us becoming aware of our other focuses (poor, rich, prostitute, monk, African, Latin, etc.) and thus understanding each other better, eliminating Judgement and becoming more emphatic. Also conceiving Karma differently as now is an action you may undertake to compensate in this focus someone you engaged in one of your other focuses. nice perspective! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vajrasattva Posted October 21, 2008 It might be, altough I will give you a little key myself.. I think in hermeticism they say that Solomon can be also: Sol Om On Wich, is 3 different words for Sun. But, who knows? Correct Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Taoist81 Posted October 21, 2008 Is solomon from The lesser and greater key of solomon the same person They are both perported to be by King Solomon of the Bible (proverbs, song of solomon etc.) though the texts likely originated in the Middle Ages. So, yes, the Solomon is the same, though he is likely not the actual author. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
