Mal Posted October 19, 2008 Do not seek from others They are far distant from me Now I will go on alone Everywhere I encounter him Right now he is me Right now I am not him One must understand this way Only then does one merge with Thusness. Â Tung-shan's Enlightment Verse from The Record of Pointing at the Moon Quoted in Working Towards Enlightenment p 245 Â Getting towards the end of this book, at last Thought people may enjoy this verse. Â I was tempted to change him to it or the true self as I found him a bit exclusive, but as you can see I left it as quoted. There is also a nice little one page explanation that I could run through the scanner if anyone is interested. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shontonga Posted October 20, 2008 Do not seek from others They are far distant from me Now I will go on alone Everywhere I encounter him Right now he is me Right now I am not him One must understand this way Only then does one merge with Thusness.  Tung-shan's Enlightment Verse from The Record of Pointing at the Moon Quoted in Working Towards Enlightenment p 245  Getting towards the end of this book, at last Thought people may enjoy this verse.  I was tempted to change him to it or the true self as I found him a bit exclusive, but as you can see I left it as quoted. There is also a nice little one page explanation that I could run through the scanner if anyone is interested.   Do like that. Thank you Mal . Easy enough to understand weather "He" or otherwise, not exclusive at all, I don't think? sweet verse. Good timing, too, kid. thanks  Shon  You like the book it came from? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mal Posted October 20, 2008 You like the book it came from? Â Yes. Its a difficult read, takes time to digest, but very rewarding. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Procurator Posted October 20, 2008 Â Â I was tempted to change him to it or the true self as I found him a bit exclusive, but as you can see I left it as quoted. There is also a nice little one page explanation that I could run through the scanner if anyone is interested. in this type of "zen" poetry "he" is a metaphor for anything that is external, it is not "true self" or a god, this poem is about removing subject-object dichotomy and was probably garbled in translation to boot. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wayfarer64 Posted October 21, 2008 yeah as noted elsewhere we find the best stuff to sculpt ourselves into/outof...within ourselves- Â but without eachother to share it with it would be pretty lonely and that is sometimes not worth the sadness caused to eachother/ourselves- Â sharing is a pretty fine state of being- tantric sex or silent smiles - we grow together as we LIVE - I think that is important to understand -compassion is painful and instructive but learning is a lonely process that requires scant direction- once you find the path that was meant to be yr life- Â it may never occure to us as we seek but then why do we bother with all of this? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites