Patrick Brown Posted November 7, 2008 <object width="425" height="344"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r7c-qv2Op2c&hl=en&fs=1"></param><param'>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r7c-qv2Op2c&hl=en&fs=1"></param><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r7c-qv2Op2c&hl=en&fs=1" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width="425" height="344"></embed></object> Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Desert Eagle Posted November 7, 2008 (edited) androgenity, nudity and tantric imagery. using eccentricity for funny political videos is more fun: Â kum4OnWKXRY Â WRTJCIpLV_c Edited November 7, 2008 by Desert Eagle Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pietro Posted November 7, 2008 (edited) Desert Eagle, is that Sai on your pic? Do you play Go?  Pietro   Edited to take away the irrelevant quote. Edited November 7, 2008 by Pietro Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Desert Eagle Posted November 7, 2008 Desert Eagle, is that Sai on your pic? Do you play Go? Â Pietro Edited to take away the irrelevant quote. Â Yes it is, I'm currently marathoning this anime and I like it, the voice acting, the characters and everything else, reminds me of Captain Tsubasa. I do feel more interested in Go but I never played it, I searched for a computer version but it looks like it's not currently possible unlike chess. I wonder about the list of benefits I can get from this game, because I don't really play much games anymore and I'm currently pursuing other interests. I was surprised that students won't be required to attend school if they take up Go, do they have this arrangement in other countries? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Taiji Bum Posted November 7, 2008 At 1:48, is that the same naked chick you got banned for before? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pietro Posted November 8, 2008 Yes it is, I'm currently marathoning this anime and I like it, the voice acting, the characters and everything else, reminds me of Captain Tsubasa. I do feel more interested in Go but I never played it, I searched for a computer version but it looks like it's not currently possible unlike chess. I wonder about the list of benefits I can get from this game, because I don't really play much games anymore and I'm currently pursuing other interests. I was surprised that students won't be required to attend school if they take up Go, do they have this arrangement in other countries? Not that I know off. But I would not be surprised if they did in Korea or China. Â Personally I find Go to be the only game worth being played. And no, it is not possible to write a computer program to play go seriously. (You still can beat a player up to 8 kyu, but this is low amatorial). Â I think there are many connections between Go and Taoism, but so far I could not find any traditional studies of the two compared. Which is funny, as, for example, I could easily represent the 4 energies of Tai Chi in my way of playing Go. This is how versatile it is. Â At 1:48, is that the same naked chick you got banned for before? No Darin, it's her sister. Â Why are you stirring the pot? You are celibate, you keep your desire in check, and then you go looking on a video which will probably include naked women, just to protest. Â This is like the old lady: -policeman, policeman, the man in the house in front is walking naked in front of the window -but milady, he is only naked from the waist up -no, no, climb on the chair, above the table and check. Â But I have another story, true story, in the north sea, at the seaside people are having problems. At the beach east-german, and polish people are fighting with each other. The Polish, very religious and catholic, are protesting because the east german are going around naked at the beach (as it was their use from some years). This offends their sensibility. But also the German are pissed off. They protest that the Polish keep on looking at them, and at their women. Â Who is right? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mal Posted November 8, 2008 At 1:48, is that the same naked chick you got banned for before? Â Hidden in a utube keeps me out of trouble at work And lets me "enjoy" if I want to at home because I personally like the pic's that PB finds. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Taiji Bum Posted November 8, 2008 Porn is evil. I'll stir the pot because I have been here for years and I think I have the right, but I wont stay on a site that has porn! I'll erase my Journal section and leave if it continues. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mal Posted November 8, 2008 (edited) Porn is bad.... but I don't feel that these are porn (I know one mans erotica etc) Should I post some porn for comparison I just don't get a dirty filthy porn feel from these. Â Obviously YMMV Â The desire I feel, if any, has more of a loving feel to it. I especially like the "Wow, thats nice, hang on its a man, weird feeling, wait it's a woman thats o.k." Should it make any difference? Â I could never understand how women find us men attractive! Just came back from swimming and we all look silly naked. Hairy here, bald there and bits hanging off !!! Edited November 8, 2008 by Mal Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Aetherous Posted November 8, 2008 (edited) Nudity isn't porn...but I think there's no decent reason to be posting nudity on this forum which is about Taoism. Â ... Â "Wow, thats nice, hang on its a man, weird feeling, wait it's a woman thats o.k." Â Totally. Edited November 8, 2008 by Scotty Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Taiji Bum Posted November 8, 2008 I fully understand that I am the exception here and so old fashioned I am almost a caveman, but I have principles I wont cross. Some see it as art, but I do not. I understand I may be wrong and the whole world may be right, but I must follow my truth. I am not giving an ultimatum of choose me over Patrick. I am just trying to follow Tao the way my heart leads me. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
froggie Posted November 8, 2008 (edited) Quasi-funny isn't funny, ambiguous isn't quite throught-provokingly.  Generally, i'd much prefer a topic that's 1/10th or less BS than a post that's 9/10th or more BS. Unless it's meant to be funny. And not quasi-funny. Some might say that humor is a matter of taste, but i would like to differ to that socalled opinion    "just because you could doesn't mean you should" - and actually also: just because you can: make careful considerations why you shouldn't. (or likewise should, consider both from time to time.) Edited November 8, 2008 by froggie Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Patrick Brown Posted November 8, 2008 I fully understand that I am the exception here and so old fashioned I am almost a caveman, but I have principles I wont cross. Some see it as art, but I do not. I understand I may be wrong and the whole world may be right, but I must follow my truth. I am not giving an ultimatum of choose me over Patrick. I am just trying to follow Tao the way my heart leads me. Hmm not sure what all the fuss is about as I've posted that vid here several times in the past without any problems. If you feel offended by any of the images in my vid then I'm sorry but I personally get offended by the image of a semi naked dead man on a cross but hey that's just me. Â Watch the vid, don't watch the vid nobodies forcing anybody although I must say again that there is a certain air of oppression building here. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Apech Posted November 8, 2008 Hmm not sure what all the fuss is about as I've posted that vid here several times in the past without any problems. If you feel offended by any of the images in my vid then I'm sorry but I personally get offended by the image of a semi naked dead man on a cross but hey that's just me. Â Watch the vid, don't watch the vid nobodies forcing anybody although I must say again that there is a certain air of oppression building here. Â Â Nothing pornographic about that video - or are we going to call Hindu temples and a lot of classical art pornographic? Â My big problem is this - is chocolate sponge pudding really nice or not? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Patrick Brown Posted November 8, 2008 My big problem is this - is chocolate sponge pudding really nice or not? Yes it's yummy but not as much as spotted dick! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Desert Eagle Posted November 8, 2008 (edited) Personally I find Go to be the only game worth being played. And no, it is not possible to write a computer program to play go seriously. (You still can beat a player up to 8 kyu, but this is low amatorial).  I think there are many connections between Go and Taoism, but so far I could not find any traditional studies of the two compared. Which is funny, as, for example, I could easily represent the 4 energies of Tai Chi in my way of playing Go. This is how versatile it is.  That is what I am looking for so would you please elaborate on it's connection to taoism and energies? I have come to view most games and music as meditational aids, fun intermediatories to achieve the meditative state which aren't really necessary if I can achieve it without them. I have played a lot of computer games especially civilization 1 and heroes 2 because of the mathematics and strategy involved but now I wish I had learned Go instead  Porn is evil. I'll stir the pot because I have been here for years and I think I have the right, but I wont stay on a site that has porn! I'll erase my Journal section and leave if it continues.  Well I agree and prefer no porn at all, but because of ubiquity you have to get use to it unless you can successfully prevent exposure. I would like to erase all social ailments and weed out the evil that causes them but it's not an ideal world yet, I have conditioned myself so that it doesn't affect me too much anymore even if I was in a nudist colony. I haven't tried the ignore button yet, maybe you can try it on Patrick and tell us how it works? Edited November 8, 2008 by Desert Eagle Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Patrick Brown Posted November 8, 2008 Porn is evil. I'll stir the pot because I have been here for years and I think I have the right, but I wont stay on a site that has porn! I'll erase my Journal section and leave if it continues. I wouldn't say it's evil as I don't use such terms as good and evil but it certainly corrupts people and traps them in a mire of desire. I'm personally pretty offended by some of the stuff that's on TV. No I'm no prude with regards to porn but I do take offence when it's available on regular TV channels that any child could watch. I mean children have TV's in there bedrooms these days so it's almost impossible to control what they watch. There even shows on as early as 10pm that have people talking explicitly about group sex and bizarre sexual practices. It's pretty worrying as the kids really are growing up to be sex obsessed. Promiscuity seems to be pretty much the norm these days, which I see as a bad thing, not saying that because I'm moralistic but I'm concerned about the fabric of society. Â Well I agree and prefer no porn at all, but because of ubiquity you have to get use to it unless you can successfully prevent exposure. I would like to erase all social ailments and weed out the evil that causes them but it's not an ideal world yet, I have conditioned myself so that it doesn't affect me too much me anymore even if I was in a nudist colony. I haven't tried the ignore button yet, maybe you can try it on Patrick and tell us how it works? The growth of greed and vanity has fuelled the porn industry to such a point that it's almost an accepted career move to be a porn star! Vanity and greed are aspects of the beast or as I often call it buSINess. The whole world has become pretty much corrupted like an out of control train and we're all guilty. I figure the 'moral majority' are just about keeping it all together although this doesn't mean they're somehow protected from the coming chaos. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sean Posted November 8, 2008 Maybe my tolerance for nudity is higher than the average bear, but IMO this isn't porn, this is Art. Art with a capital A even. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Patrick Brown Posted November 8, 2008 Maybe my tolerance for nudity is higher than the average bear, but IMO this isn't porn, this is Art. Art with a capital A even. Â Well if it's a choice between Darin leaving or me taking the video down then of course I'll take the video down. I would hope though that Darin can accept the general consensus that the video isn't pornographic. Yes some of the images are perhaps close to the bone but I did try my best not to offend anybody when making the video. Â Be a great loss to this community if Darin left so I hope he stays. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shontonga Posted November 8, 2008  Well if it's a choice between Darin leaving or me taking the video down then of course I'll take the video down. I would hope though that Darin can accept the general consensus that the video isn't pornographic. Yes some of the images are perhaps close to the bone but I did try my best not to offend anybody when making the video.  Be a great loss to this community if Darin left so I hope he stays.  thanks for that Patrick. ...would feel bad too, enjoy that kid!  Like the diversity found here at the Bum's Hate to see folks disappear?  See you! Shon   Oh and being single is still frowned upon, lol. I could go on a rant about that but need to go to work instead!  Peace kids! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bum Grasshopper Posted November 8, 2008 Maybe post a warning that the video contains nudity that others might find offensive. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Taiji Bum Posted November 8, 2008 If I am the only one that finds it offensive then it is obviously my problem. Sean doesn't mind it and it is his site so just leave it up. I'll do some thinking about it this weekend. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mwight Posted November 8, 2008 If I am the only one that finds it offensive then it is obviously my problem. Sean doesn't mind it and it is his site so just leave it up. I'll do some thinking about it this weekend. Â Â I don't find nudity offense, but I did find the video rather lame, if its trying to convey some deeper message it's lost on me completely. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Patrick Brown Posted November 8, 2008 If I am the only one that finds it offensive then it is obviously my problem. Sean doesn't mind it and it is his site so just leave it up. I'll do some thinking about it this weekend. Please don't flag it on youtube Darin as I love that vid. I'm honestly not sure how this has gotten so blown out of proportion. And that's not a smutty joke!! Â I don't find nudity offense, but I did find the video rather lame, if its trying to convey some deeper message it's lost on me completely. Yes I would advise all members to not view the vid. And no that's not a smutty joke either!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites