Riyue Posted December 14, 2008 confusion about terms ... communication is only then possible if people have the same ideas hearing a term... if you hear the term "god" - and your associations are the term "god" as used in the bible - it is impossible to understand laozi speaking of 神 in ddj #6谷神不死是謂玄牝 , #29 天下神器, #39 神 得 一 以 寧, ...神 無 以 靈, #60 以道蒞天下 其鬼不神 。非其鬼不神 ,其神不傷人 ;非其神不傷人 , Confusion originates in persons using terms in wrong context. bible-god is not 神 in ddj castle-ghost is not 鬼 in ddj ... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mak_Tin_Si Posted December 14, 2008 God in taoism and Ghost in taoism is about energy. God is a stage above immortals in taoism training. You train your own souls to be able to live without the body. Then you go to the other dimension and continue your own trianing with your soul, and that will be combined with universal energy which do not have 5 elements, but only yin and yang energy. With this you become more and more pure, and eventually you reach a stage where you can get rid of yin and yang too, then you are categorized as god. The other type of god in taoism is energy, The "sun" (in chinese) of a body meaning the energy of a person. When you have Jing Sun, that means you are very awake and energized. The "sun" part of the eenrgy of a person can also be trained and combined with the person's soul so the person can also live without the physical body. Ghost are negative because it is a formation of YIN energy. hidden from our eyes. Cannot be seen. You can also say ghost in chinese mean any hidden message or information can be call ghost. In chinese we say people are "ghost ghost rat rat" 鬼鬼鼠鼠 meaning that people are doing things hidden at the back slowly for greeds. Ghost can be in spirits or in people's mind. You can have a ghost heart, which means your heart always think about things and not tell people with greedy thoughts. That is a type of ghost heart too. I am welcome for any questions on this topic which is very benefitcial to all taoism learners too. Many people asked me this before and they are also enlighten by the answers and made themselve more clear on their path in taoism. confusion about terms ... communication is only then possible if people have the same ideas hearing a term... if you hear the term "god" - and your associations are the term "god" as used in the bible - it is impossible to understand laozi speaking of 神 in ddj #6谷神不死是謂玄牝 , #29 天下神器, #39 神 得 一 以 寧, ...神 無 以 靈, #60 以道蒞天下 其鬼不神 。非其鬼不神 ,其神不傷人 ;非其神不傷人 , Confusion originates in persons using terms in wrong context. bible-god is not 神 in ddj castle-ghost is not 鬼 in ddj ... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Riyue Posted December 14, 2008 ... about energy. great illustration...isn't it? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mak_Tin_Si Posted December 15, 2008 Good font, very old style font of the character GOD in chinese. great illustration...isn't it? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites