Passing the hat around for Gossamer

[mwight]

I'll chip in $5.00 also

[Stigweard]

Awesome mwight!!!

 

Stigweard $20

Froggie $10

MPWay $5

zanshin $10

dao zhen $20

rodgerj $20

Kate $10

Lostmonk $10

mwight $5

 

Total: USD$110

 

USD$145 to go ...

Edited December 24, 2008 by Stigweard

[rene]

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Edited August 14, 2013 by WhiteMoon

[Stigweard]

Either way, maybe a good idea for you to stay on your meds.

 

Whilst Gossamer may be afflicted with the stress of his ordeal(s) I really don't think such comments are helpful.

[rene]

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Edited August 14, 2013 by WhiteMoon

[Stigweard]

You may have not caught the intent there, mate.

 

Gossamer has spoken openly and often in other forums about all of his difficulties, including dealing with and being treated for post traumatic stress disorder, paranoia, etc.

 

I've seen too many examples of folks that, after a "religious experience" felt that they were now "saved" and/or "cured" - and quit taking medically needed prescriptions. It seems your good efforts, Stigweard, might meet your goal of helping Gossamer obtain the services of Mak Tin-Si. My suggestion for him to keep taking what may be medically necessary is the only contribution I can make towards this effort at this time. Sorry it can't be more.

 

WM

 

I respect your point of view my friend. Your caution is well noted.

[Pero]

I'll give 5$.

[rookie]

I'm in for $20. Merry Christmas

[gossamer]

White Moon

 

I'VE NEVER been prescribed psychiatric medicines.........NEVER.

 

I DO take Clonazepam, for restless legs syndrome.

 

I take it EVERY NIGHT.

 

You can take a flyin' leap mate, if you know what I mean.

 

You, and everyone who believes like YOU.

 

g.

 

 

P.S. I've NEVER been "treated" for PTSD, OR "PARANOIA", I SAID that I THINK that all of this stuff has given me PTSD.

 

It's a PERSONAL VIEW, and that's it, and that's ALL.

 

If I had a $100.00 (which I don't) I'd bet it ALL, that "White Moon" is one of David's former "squeezes" (shall we say), or David Screeton HIMSELF.

Edited December 24, 2008 by gossamer

[rene]

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Edited August 14, 2013 by WhiteMoon

[gossamer]

Maybe it's YOU who needs "some TREATMENT".

 

And I've got one that I'll give you, you have my address, so come on up David.

 

You got it "mate"?

 

g.

 

 

 

My suggestion was genuine and based on your earlier statements regarding your conditions. Your mental health issues are, imo, personal matters that should stay between you and your doctor(s). Maybe some 'treatment' could give you relief.

Edited December 24, 2008 by gossamer

[rene]

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Edited August 14, 2013 by WhiteMoon

[gossamer]

I tell you what, let's just run a trace on your IP Address, and just SEE where it's from then.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I'm not David and your delusion that I am is only making my point. You truly need help; I hope you find some.

[Smile]

$10 from me.

[Mal]

gossamer could be relieved from his problems by simply emptying his mind. what should his possesions and his money matter to him? you can achieve happiness without any of these things. and even if he is being oppressed by 'black magic' he can easily defend himself. he just needs to find the strength that is already inside of him.

 

I agree, however IMHO this will "work" better because :-

Hopefully Mak Tin-si can provide the FUs to exorcise all your demons and the ghosts you see

 

 

Actually, if it was me, I would decline, but depending on the energy of a person, the treatment could be free. It's a matter of tradition, and not a matter of money. The fee has to come from a ready student. If the student is not ready for whatever reason, then they are not ready.

 

I'd love to help gossamer & I'd like to see a FU work & I recon gossamer is more than ready to be rid of this cloud over his life.

 

$10 good quality Aus$ it is

(I'll actually toss in $15AUD, should be close to $10 real money!)

 

please add me to the list Stig

[Stigweard]

Thank you guys ... I think you consideration here is a credit to your virtue.

 

The honour list:

 

Stigweard $20

Froggie $10

MPWay $5

zanshin $10

dao zhen $20

rodgerj $20

Kate $10

Lostmonk $10

mwight $5

Pero $5

Rookie $20

Smile $10

Mal $10

 

Total: USD$155

 

Over half way !!!!!!! Woohoo!!!!

 

USD$100 to go ...

[Stigweard]

Ok gossamer as you can see you are going to get the support you need. I would suggest that notice needs to be given to the comments that if you are not ready for this help then it may not be as effective is it could be.

 

You are the most avid scholar of the Tao te Ching that I have encountered so let's play to your strengths.

 

Choose your favourite translation and recite oit aloud the first chapter 3 times a day for the next 49 days. I would also recommend that you write out copy to keep with you through the day and whenever you feel yourself getting mentally or emotionaly caught in the stress stop and recite this chapter until you regain your balance.

 

I would also suggest you need to draw more natural energy into your life. To do this, again for the next 49 days, get up as early as you can and do some deep breathing with the rising sun. Breathe in the goodness and simply allow any stale energy to flow out with your breath. Don't force it, follow the principle of being natural.

 

You already have Ya Mu's purple light meditation that you have found success with so I would recommend you continue this as well.

 

You are about to plant a new seed in your life my friend; prepare the soil well first and before you know it you will be enjoying the sweet taste of the fruits.

 

[Mal]

Excellent suggestion, I can feel a change a commin'

[Pietro]

I would be happy to support,

but I am unconvinced that this form of support is the right solution.

 

First of all, to me the situation shouts 6th hexagram loud and clear.

 

I don't think the trouble comes from evil spirits, nor from a technical problem. If it was a technical problem you could solve it technically. If it was coming from spirits you would need a Fu. But this is an ethical problem between human beings.

 

So, I wonder, why doesn't our guest follow the istructions of the I CHing, and look for a man that both him and David respect, and they look for a compromise that they both can respect.

 

It seem obvious that "gossamer" received a lot of damage, if his story is true (Don't take my doubts personally, I always doubt of everybody). It seem that also David ended up losing two jobs (he might have legally deserved to lose them, but his inner heart might feel differently). So it seem that both side are harming each other in many different and creative ways.

 

"gossamer" has reached the point of frustration that he is considering killing the other guy. David on the other hand has threatened to kill "gossamer" friends. We also know David name (Because "gossamer" told us), but we don't know gossamer name. In short the situation sounds less unilateral than we are superficially led to believe,

 

So for now I hold upon the money. But I am happy to support a different solution.

[Riyue]

it has good reasons why tele-diagnosis and tele-therapy are condemned as quackery,...

one should not support something that goes in this direction..

[Mal]

My own opinion on this sort of stuff (magical attacks, bullying, "hacking") is whatever you believe will work...works. However if Gossamer does not have faith that it will work, then it won't. A show of faith by doing some sort of lead up exercise like Stig suggested is a good move. And if it takes a FU or whatever I'm happy to toss money at it

 

IMHO I wouldn't worry about "David" as I doubt this is causing him any/much stress. Although that could be a mis-read I find a lot of this sort of stuff tends to be one sided.

 

Like Pietro said, please don't take my doubts personally, I'm just reluctant to take one sides story as "gospel"

[gossamer]

Dear Dao Friends,

 

Tonight, I'll be getting a copy of 'Nine Nights With The Taoist Master' from my wife as a Christmas gift.

 

I'll do the exercise that Stigwerd suggested, if you all determine that is the course that I should take.

 

My real name is Albion, and Stigwerd knows my real last name (I believe) and so does YaMu (for sure).

 

I did NOT get David fired, David got David fired.

 

He had been spamming pornography on the hospital's computers since his early years there, long before he met ME.

 

Not to mention, he was running (literally) his own "telephone company" out of the hospital as well, this too, had gone on for a very long time.

 

Now, hacking private medical records which his job allowed him NO access to, is a violation of the HIPPA Act, and is a felony.

 

Him using *my* Social Security number came directly from that.

 

However, I'd consider some sort of real "Peace Treaty", but the hacking of my computer MUST STOP, and the hacking of my wife's work computer also MUST STOP.

 

As well as the hacking and spamming porn on the literally hundreds of other hospital computers, at the hospital where my wife works.

 

And my personal social security number MUST not EVER be used again, by David.

 

David's "ministry" job was a VOLUNTEER job, so he lost not one dime there.

 

Now, just HOW are any of you gonna verify that this hacking will STOP?

 

This must be addressed before I consider ANY sort of peace treaty.

 

I might add that David's helpers on this forum are agging all of this on as well.

 

One of them from Baton Rouge, Louisiana, especially.

 

Now, that all said, I will do virtually anything to get all of this war to stop.

 

HOW are you going to get David and friend's TO TELL THE TRUTH?

 

They have lied about me, all over the internet, and got me thrown off at least one other forum where I had been since 2001, ALL of this must STOP.

 

There is no way that I know how to get pathological liars to tell the truth.

 

Do any of YOU know how to do so?

 

I may be hurt in my spirit and soul, but I'm NOT stupid.

 

Now there are my conditions for any sort of VERIFIABLE peace treaty.

 

But all of the stuff that I've written about above, must stop forever.

 

And I'm telling you, there is no way to "cure" a socio-path.

 

All of you believe that I'm not wanting to co-operate here, but I told you what I wanted from my very first day here on this forum, and yes, I've gotten angry and blown it a few times, but I really and truly WANT to be helped, and to become well both in body, and in spirit and/or soul.

 

You have my solemn word on that.

 

I'm super tired of this "six year war" and I want it to be OVER with forever.

 

Please forgive my use of caps in this post. Thank you.

 

If I can be of further assistance, you just need to ask me, and I'll go along with any realistic program of healing and protection that you all sort out.

 

I'll start Stigwerd's Tao Te Ching and breathing exercises this evening.

 

Please respond to this post, and we can go from where you all determine.

 

'gossamer'/ Albion

Edited December 25, 2008 by gossamer

[gossamer]

Regardless of how ANY of this turns out, I want to say thank you! to everyone who has given funds, or even energy from themselves, and no funds.

 

You have restored my faith in human kind, and if I had not seen all of this myself, I probably would not have ever believed it.

 

Thank you very, very much to everyone!

 

Peace, gossamer

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Dao Friends,

 

Tonight, I'll be getting a copy of 'Nine Nights With The Taoist Master' from my wife as a Christmas gift.

 

I'll do the exercise that Stigwerd suggested, if you all determine that is the course that I should take.

 

My real name is Albion, and Stigwerd knows my real last name (I believe) and so does YaMu (for sure).

 

I did NOT get David fired, David got David fired.

 

He had been spamming pornography on the hospital's computers since his early years there, long before he met ME.

 

Not to mention, he was running (literally) his own "telephone company" out of the hospital as well, this too, had gone on for a very long time.

 

Now, hacking private medical records which his job allowed him NO access to, is a violation of the HIPPA Act, and is a felony.

 

Him using *my* Social Security number came directly from that.

 

However, I'd consider some sort of real "Peace Treaty", but the hacking of my computer MUST STOP, and the hacking of my wife's work computer also MUST STOP.

 

As well as the hacking and spamming porn on the literally hundreds of other hospital computers, at the hospital where my wife works.

 

And my personal social security number MUST not EVER be used again, by David.

 

David's "ministry" job was a VOLUNTEER job, so he lost not one dime there.

 

Now, just HOW are any of you gonna verify that this hacking will STOP?

 

This must be addressed before I consider ANY sort of peace treaty.

 

I might add that David's helpers on this forum are agging all of this on as well.

 

One of them from Baton Rouge, Louisiana, especially.

 

Now, that all said, I will do virtually anything to get all of this war to stop.

 

HOW are you going to get David and friend's TO TELL THE TRUTH?

 

They have lied about me, all over the internet, and got me thrown off at least one other forum where I had been since 2001, ALL of this must STOP.

 

There is no way that I know how to get pathological liars to tell the truth.

 

Do any of YOU know how to do so?

 

I may be hurt in my spirit and soul, but I'm NOT stupid.

 

Now there are my conditions for any sort of VERIFIABLE peace treaty.

 

But all of the stuff that I've written about above, must stop forever.

 

And I'm telling you, there is no way to "cure" a socio-path.

 

All of you believe that I'm not wanting to co-operate here, but I told you what I wanted from my very first day here on this forum, and yes, I've gotten angry and blown it a few times, but I really and truly WANT to be helped, and to become well both in body, and in spirit and/or soul.

 

You have my solemn word on that.

 

I'm super tired of this "six year war" and I want it to be OVER with forever.

 

Please forgive my use of caps in this post. Thank you.

 

If I can be of further assistance, you just need to ask me, and I'll go along with any realistic program of healing and protection that you all sort out.

 

I'll start Stigwerd's Tao Te Ching and breathing exercises this evening.

 

Please respond to this post, and we can go from where you all determine.

 

'gossamer'/ Albion

[Mal]

Mental note, do not post when tired

 

It's all to do with attitude. If it helps I'll talk about me. People try to kill me every day. Perhaps I should blame them. They are just useless car drivers after all, so brain dead they can't see me approaching (at well over the speed limit!) Idiots!!!

 

Does attributing my reason, change their actions, no.

If I keep reliving the past does it change things, no.

Do I use these events to change my behavior, no.

So why do people try to kill me everyday.......

 

People do this sort of stuff all the time. "D didn't send us a Xmas present AGAIN, she hates us. I think I'll call her and abuse her." Well the reality was the present got droped inside the post office and we didn't get contacted till the 23rd (had to pay $6 postage, they could have sent it for us!) so it's currently still in the mail. But that's my "family member"

 

Do you know I almost wrote a letter to WDQ tonight telling him I'd applied for membership 2x and got nothing back and couldn't download the e book or even get a new password.... turns out my spam filter was eating those emails... lucky I deleted that post before I sent it

 

I've said it before and I'm sorry but couldn't some of these "hacks" just be errors or bugs. Can you consider it as a possibility?

 

Eg. My computer has remembered my password to this site. I don't log in to post here. So I'm confused at how you jumped to. He has hacked me and is following me here because I don't have to log in or use a password.

 

Eg I see you have gossamer running aging, I thought you got locked out and had to use gossamer7. And the sudo problems sound like a password error IMHO.

 

I know it's really annoying but a story from the past just does not help us "fix" things, so many unknown variables. And the past is gone anyhow, it's just our memories.

 

 

Another one. "HOW are you going to get David and friend's TO TELL THE TRUTH? They have lied about me, all over the internet, and got me thrown off at least one other forum"

 

Eg. you said white moon was David, he said he wasn't. Is he telling the truth? Honestly does it really matter?

 

If people are spreading lies about you the best thing to do is just not to be bothered by it. The only other option is to physically stop them. Which action is most helpful........if you want peace it's not the physical one. Getting worked up over it is exactly what people trying to annoy you want. Little effort on their part but big effect on you.

 

So I'm not saying the effect isn't real. If I was as upset as you I'd be at the fireboming houses stage long ago. But if you want peace, then give peace. It's not easy, that's why the world mostly hates. But I think you are strong enough to do it.

 

Despite all the emotion you are still here trying,

People are still trying to help,

It's all good

 

love Mal

[gossamer]

Your a good man Mal.

 

Peace surround you. gossamer

 

 

 

 

Mental note, do not post when tired

 

It's all to do with attitude. If it helps I'll talk about me. People try to kill me every day. Perhaps I should blame them. They are just useless car drivers after all, so brain dead they can't see me approaching (at well over the speed limit!) Idiots!!!

 

Does attributing my reason, change their actions, no.

If I keep reliving the past does it change things, no.

Do I use these events to change my behavior, no.

So why do people try to kill me everyday.......

 

People do this sort of stuff all the time. "D didn't send us a Xmas present AGAIN, she hates us. I think I'll call her and abuse her." Well the reality was the present got droped inside the post office and we didn't get contacted till the 23rd (had to pay $6 postage, they could have sent it for us!) so it's currently still in the mail. But that's my "family member"

 

Do you know I almost wrote a letter to WDQ tonight telling him I'd applied for membership 2x and got nothing back and couldn't download the e book or even get a new password.... turns out my spam filter was eating those emails... lucky I deleted that post before I sent it

 

I've said it before and I'm sorry but couldn't some of these "hacks" just be errors or bugs. Can you consider it as a possibility?

 

Eg. My computer has remembered my password to this site. I don't log in to post here. So I'm confused at how you jumped to. He has hacked me and is following me here because I don't have to log in or use a password.

 

Eg I see you have gossamer running aging, I thought you got locked out and had to use gossamer7. And the sudo problems sound like a password error IMHO.

 

I know it's really annoying but a story from the past just does not help us "fix" things, so many unknown variables. And the past is gone anyhow, it's just our memories.

Another one. "HOW are you going to get David and friend's TO TELL THE TRUTH? They have lied about me, all over the internet, and got me thrown off at least one other forum"

 

Eg. you said white moon was David, he said he wasn't. Is he telling the truth? Honestly does it really matter?

 

If people are spreading lies about you the best thing to do is just not to be bothered by it. The only other option is to physically stop them. Which action is most helpful........if you want peace it's not the physical one. Getting worked up over it is exactly what people trying to annoy you want. Little effort on their part but big effect on you.

 

So I'm not saying the effect isn't real. If I was as upset as you I'd be at the fireboming houses stage long ago. But if you want peace, then give peace. It's not easy, that's why the world mostly hates. But I think you are strong enough to do it.

 

Despite all the emotion you are still here trying,

People are still trying to help,

It's all good

 

love Mal