Mak_Tin_Si Posted December 31, 2008 (edited) As requested from the moderator of TaoBum, I have moved to this forum : http://www.daoismworld.com right now. So if you want to talk to me or ask me anything about Taoism, please feel free to go over to this forum and enjoy the new forum. New members for discussion are also welcomed. http://www.daoismworld.com Mak Tin Si Edited January 8, 2009 by Mak_Tin_Si Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
minkus Posted December 31, 2008 (edited) Hey Mak Tin Si, Maybe intresting is this documentary where (around minute 38 in the video) a female Tibetan shaman asks a deity to take over her body so she can heal others by sucking the disease out of the patients body and swallowing it. She says lately she doesnt swallow the disease anymore and spits it out and shows it to the person being healed as they otherwise dont believe her. Very intresting part of this allready intresting docu ! Kind regards ! edit: and the link ffcourse: http://video.google.nl/videoplay?docid=-21...h&plindex=4 Edited December 31, 2008 by minkus Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vajrasattva Posted December 31, 2008 (edited) There are NO god or deities that will get into ANYBODY's body. This is because the energy on the god or deities are too pure and clean, there is no way they can survive in a human's body. This is not true. If they are truly God or a servant of God (Deva/Archangel) they can and have the power to be in any shape form manifestation they will. The real God wont have a problem "surviving". Some of the best shamans in the world use some form of "Aviskara" or Deity Yoga/Guru Yoga to get the "job" done. There is a way to have that true connection so one is not driven by devils/jinn/bad spirits etc. Edited December 31, 2008 by Vajrasattva Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mak_Tin_Si Posted December 31, 2008 (edited) As requested from the moderator of TaoBum, I have moved to this forum : http://www.daoismworld.com right now. So if you want to talk to me or ask me anything about Taoism, please feel free to go over to this forum and enjoy the new forum. New members for discussion are also welcomed. http://www.daoismworld.com Mak Tin Si Edited January 8, 2009 by Mak_Tin_Si Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vajrasattva Posted December 31, 2008 (edited) In Thailand, many of the monks do claim to do this too. But then it is just an illusion to people's eyes. Just hard to argue this point unless one of these people is in front of us now and let's see what happen when we do a fu in front and kick that spirit out of the person right away, see if it is a god or spirit. The god do not have a problem in "surviving" of course but it will not stay in a "dirty" place such as a human body for sure. If not, those who become immortals or god do not have to be so pure to ascend. Also, I am talking about "TAOISM" here agian. Do not go off track. Believe me I am not off track there is only one real GOD/TAO/ALLAH/SHIVASHAKTi etc You are talking about something that is relatively 3,000 years old (Religious Taoism) I am talking about something that influenced your 3,000 year old thoughts or ways that are FAR older on this planet. Do not get stuck in a box Mak tin Si and you can bring as much FU as you would like at the end of the day this will not help if you do not have permission from the TRUTH or the "ONE". Peace & Blessings to you. Happy New Year. Santiago Edited December 31, 2008 by Vajrasattva Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mak_Tin_Si Posted December 31, 2008 (edited) As requested from the moderator of TaoBum, I have moved to this forum : http://www.daoismworld.com right now. So if you want to talk to me or ask me anything about Taoism, please feel free to go over to this forum and enjoy the new forum. New members for discussion are also welcomed. http://www.daoismworld.com Mak Tin Si Edited January 8, 2009 by Mak_Tin_Si Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vajrasattva Posted December 31, 2008 Not much point to argue as I can see from your past post already. So let' just get this over with. I do have my own experience in dealing with these kind of people in my life too. I mean those who claim to haev god and immortals etc, to take over their body. Which is why I am saying this cannot happen. But if you say yours is right, then let it be. Not much point to argue anymore. But for sure here, if ANYONE try to BIU TUNG in taoism, they will surely be punished by the taoism rules sealed in. (none of your business since yours is not taoism) you miss my point. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jedi777 Posted December 31, 2008 you miss my point. I think he misses most points--i have never seen a taoist so Imprisoned by so many rules---wow Im happy Im a Jedi of the Middle path! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vajrasattva Posted December 31, 2008 I think he misses most points--i have never seen a taoist so Imprisoned by so many rules---wow Im happy Im a Jedi of the Middle path! Yes but to each their own. I am happy to follow the "One" So I will gladly become a Zero in order to do that only then can you know the "One". The real ONE does not need "Fu". It is the All Knowing. Does the Tao ban the Taoist from bringing the TAO within his or her heart? Also how come no one has raised an eyebrow yet....Mak keeps talking about Karma......This is a Hindu & Buddhist concept not a pure Taoist Concept..... Peace & Happy New year with out Dogma nor Dogma's Pile of Dookie. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jedi777 Posted December 31, 2008 Yes but to each their own. I am happy to follow the "One" So I will gladly become a Zero in order to do that only then can you know the "One". The real ONE does not need "Fu". It is the All Knowing. Does the Tao ban the Taoist from bringing the TAO within his or her heart? Also how come no one has raised an eyebrow yet....Mak keeps talking about Karma......This is a Hindu & Buddhist concept not a pure Taoist Concept..... Peace & Happy New year with out Dogma nor Dogma's Pile of Dookie. LOL well said! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Billy K Posted January 5, 2009 Well, uh, that`s just basic shamanism, and not even a very hard skill to learn, you just have to ask nicely. It`s very, very exhausting, however. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites