For dog lovers- becareful!

[dragonfire]

That's the EXACT reason you were given your own personal practice section the forum, so people won't HAVE to read through your "shit".

VERY WELL PUT!

 

I'm defending MTS on any accounts or support him, but there is a thing called

bad luck. Its real. However, I think the bad luck is stepping in poo.

I never really observed my luck afterwards or whether it was tied into

stepping into poo. Again, chinese have many beliefs. Some have merit

while others not.

 

I think the bad luck is really karma. You are

being paid back for stuff you did. Whether your bad luck continues

depends on the extent of your karma. Do good always,

treat people and animals with respect, and you will be ok. There

is truth to the saying.. Shit goes around.

 

Everything happens for a reason, its not random.

 

Dogs are loving creatures, that only want to please you. To me dogs are more

loving than humans in this day in age. I was in asia and saw a truck full

of dogs. I was heart-broken.

[Dean]

Dear Mak Tin Si,

 

I'm sorry you stepped on so many toes. As you probably already know a great deal of people in Western Culture choose to view dogs as part of the family. I myself do not currently have any dogs, but I was brought up with a number of them. By brought up I mean we had 21 dogs at any one time. So I can imagined in your mind this would be bad FU. Mak, Old China is dead, dog's today are viewed as food, etc. Anyhow, you never told me what part your from anyways. You know this stuff already.

 

Anyways, I hope there is someway a Taoist can live in commune with nature. How about, drug sniffing dogs, Search and rescue, and dogs for handicappers.

[YMWong]

I'm sorry you stepped on so many toes.

 

There is nothing to be sorry.

 

Stepping on TOO MANY toes, just like stepping on too many dog poo's, is not bad luck and can only be 'achieved' on purpose.

 

There is a proverb in chinese which sums it all:

 

人串門子惹是非，

狗串門子挨棒槌。

 

[if] One goes from door to door, [one will just] stir up troubles

[just as when] a dog goes from door to door, it gets beaten with (laundry) clubs

 

N'est pas ?

 

 

YM

 

PS: and by the way, dog is an auspicious animal in chinese culture and has been bred and lived with humans for thousand of years. When somebody accidentally steps on dog's poo, just like when somebody gets and unexpected lucky something, people will say "交狗屎運" which means something like "you have been lucky enough to step on a dog's poo". Popularly it refers to the fact that it is not that 'easy' to step on a poo so that person is 'special' or has a 'special day' - the same applies to various european countries.

Edited January 1, 2009 by YMWong

[Dean]

Thank you YM Wong, but I'd be interested in the masters opinion. LOL!!!

[Mak_Tin_Si]

As requested from the moderator of TaoBum, I have moved to this forum : http://www.daoismworld.com right now.

 

So if you want to talk to me or ask me anything about Taoism, please feel free to go over to this forum and enjoy the new forum. New members for discussion are also welcomed.

 

http://www.daoismworld.com

 

Mak Tin Si

Edited January 8, 2009 by Mak_Tin_Si

[YMWong]

Dog Poo is a serious topic in Taoism [...]

 

Hilarious, to say the least ...

 

YM

[rain]

Hilarious, to say the least ...

 

YM

 

 

 

"yeah..well..good thing we didn't step in it, now let's go eat"..

 

http://video.google.com/videosearch?hl=no&...hl=no&emb=0

[Guest sykkelpump]

Ha ha,unbelivable how many stupid posts there is

[宁]

Hilarious, to say the least ...

 

YM

 

大便， 小便 。。。Ai ai ai, tha't no way to speak for a REAL DAOIST

And remember, your quote said Dao is in piss and shit.

这个师傅可能帮助您。。。

Without his case study and example, I may not ever get to that stinky gem of wisdom...

 

对不起,M 师傅, we've learned somethings, you may need to learn one thing also...

Dao may be just a little bigger than your conceptions on it...

 

So, I'll go out to find some Dog Poo to study, to learn more about the Dao...

 

See ya

Edited January 1, 2009 by Little1

[rookie]

Whatever happened to reducing, taking away all that isn't essential, to get to the essential?

"To find truth, retreat from untruth"

 

With all these extra beliefs, it must be crowded in one's head.

Beliefs become lenses that our experience is filtered through.

Most are quite unnecessary.

 

To each their own

 

I thought Daoism was a path of simplicity, or maybe that is my belief

[Baguakid]

Whatever happened to reducing, taking away all that isn't essential, to get to the essential?

"To find truth, retreat from untruth"

 

With all these extra beliefs, it must be crowded in one's head.

Beliefs become lenses that our experience is filtered through.

Most are quite unnecessary.

 

To each their own

 

I thought Daoism was a path of simplicity, or maybe that is my belief

 

 

It's the difference between Religion and Spirituality.

 

Excellent Post.

[Smile]

Whatever happened to reducing, taking away all that isn't essential, to get to the essential?

"To find truth, retreat from untruth"

 

With all these extra beliefs, it must be crowded in one's head.

Beliefs become lenses that our experience is filtered through.

Most are quite unnecessary.

 

To each their own

 

I thought Daoism was a path of simplicity, or maybe that is my belief

 

Brother, Daoism is a path of simplicity. Do not let any amount of dog poo convince you otherwise.

[Mak_Tin_Si]

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Mak Tin Si

Edited January 8, 2009 by Mak_Tin_Si

[Vajrasattva]

Science has found that Cocker Spaniels can smell & Detect Cancer.

 

They can give people early warnings of cancer.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

here is more:

 

http://hubpages.com/hub/Dogs_Detect_Cancer_in_Humans

[Mak_Tin_Si]

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Mak Tin Si

Edited January 8, 2009 by Mak_Tin_Si

[dragonfire]

yes you are right, pets can detecy many things in nature just like us human can do when we can communicate with the pre-heaven stage like in taoism training.

 

Without pets, where would humanity be? I was out at the beach today and almost everyone had a dog. Is

it the dog that gives the owner happiness or is it the owner that gives the dog happiness? or maybe both?

It looked like a mutual benefit to me.

[Mak_Tin_Si]

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Mak Tin Si

Edited January 8, 2009 by Mak_Tin_Si

[Spirit Ape]

Dogs are awesome friends my Dog is like a Son to me, he is my happiness when im sad always there waiting for me to greet me when i come home.

 

Now, you have ancient chinese medicine that kill animals and take out bear bile, tiger bones, deer antlers, etc what is bad luck?

 

Then the japanese killing all the whales in our seas!

 

Dogs bad luck or is it humans that are the bad luck?

 

APe

[Mak_Tin_Si]

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Mak Tin Si

Edited January 8, 2009 by Mak_Tin_Si

[Mal]

I said TAOIST, not all people in china. You guys are really getting out of track here man. I just said about dog poo, now people are so off track to saying dogs are not good? what the..?

 

Look at that you sound like a real person Good stuff

 

This is what we DO here. Take a topic and discuss it from all angles, examine all the implications. Rather than just flooding facts for unquestioning belief. edit my fault you just gave a method to test the poo = bad luck hypothesis.

 

Eg from reading this, I don't believe stepping in dog poo is bad luck, I want to keep pets, therefor I don't want to be a religious taoist in your system

 

Note I didn't just say TAOIST because I feel Taoist is a bit more encompassing than your definition.

[Mak_Tin_Si]

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So if you want to talk to me or ask me anything about Taoism, please feel free to go over to this forum and enjoy the new forum. New members for discussion are also welcomed.

 

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Mak Tin Si

Edited January 8, 2009 by Mak_Tin_Si

[Mal]

Students who really learn under the lineage will automatically FEEL the reason by themselves and know what to do and what to not do. Just like feeling of fire will burn your hands.

Mak Tin Si

 

Very true, definitely no hard feelings. It's cool to talk with you.

 

I hope we work out some sort of posting arrangement that doesn't drive you away. I appreciate your info on your system and beliefs.

[Mak_Tin_Si]

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Mak Tin Si

Edited January 8, 2009 by Mak_Tin_Si

[shontonga]

LOL,

 

Kinda all makes sense.

 

... and buddha(Your holy person here) killed the cow.

 

 

[Mak_Tin_Si]

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Mak Tin Si

Edited January 8, 2009 by Mak_Tin_Si