mantis Posted January 12, 2009 (edited) after watching matt furey's chuang shan de gong fu (which is not worth the money, mind you) the guy recommends eating a lot of lamb and he says deer testicles are good for your sexual health. despite the fact i'm only 18 i am positive i have low testosterone and or a "kidney deficiency." in an older topic someone listed some of the symptoms and i have nearly all of them. terrible memory, back pain (which has gone away due to exercise), breast tissue and balding among other things. the western remedies are pretty much either viagra or testosterone, which you will have to take for the rest of your life.  apparently a new zealand company is selling deer testicles under the name of "Deer Pizzle." it's pretty cheap at either $28 a bottle or $23 for 60 pills (depending on the brand). does anyone have any experience with this? i can't visit a western doctor yet due to the fact i currently do not have insurance but i have virtually no libido or desire for anything, no matter what i do. keep in mind i am in great physical shape, running an average of 5-6 miles a week and weights 3x a week.  i've tried everything from jelqing, retention, hanging weights, nothing works.  the websites for the deer pizzle are  http://www.greenhealth.co.nz/deerpizzle.htm http://www.thehealthstore.co.nz/nobots_pro...amp;language=en Edited January 12, 2009 by mantis Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Aetherous Posted January 12, 2009 I thought you were just trying to be celibate for 100 days and couldn't do it? But you have no libido? Â I'd go to an acupuncturist or two. It's hard to say what's actually wrong with you based on self diagnosis, and it's even harder to say what medicine could work for you. Chinese medicine is complicated! Â By the way...it seems obvious to me that doing more sexual practices isn't a good idea...like hanging weights, retention, etc. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
froggie Posted January 12, 2009 (edited) all i know is that in quite some countries all kinds of testicles are eaten and prepared in various ways, and also brains are eaten, cartilage, and so many more things  oh, yes, one more thing .... i have heard of deer antler velvet also, which is supposed to contain many kinds of hormones also, it is when old layers of antlers are shed to make room for new additions, etc. or something like that. and also it is supposed to or at least can be gathered in an animal friendly way. Edited January 12, 2009 by froggie Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mantis Posted January 12, 2009 I thought you were just trying to be celibate for 100 days and couldn't do it? But you have no libido?  I'd go to an acupuncturist or two. It's hard to say what's actually wrong with you based on self diagnosis, and it's even harder to say what medicine could work for you. Chinese medicine is complicated!  By the way...it seems obvious to me that doing more sexual practices isn't a good idea...like hanging weights, retention, etc.  yeah i had my libido back after not masturbating/watching porn for a month. but then i ask, how many people at this age can be celibate for a month  Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
seekeroftruth Posted January 12, 2009 yeah i had my libido back after not masturbating/watching porn for a month. but then i ask, how many people at this age can be celibate for a month    You might not be so abnormal. I'll share some of my experience. As weird as this sounds, I never masturbated till I was about eighteen and a half (I looked at porn for like ten days when I was twelve then stopped cause I thought it was weird). I had wet dreams about every month or so, but I could remain celibate for a long period of time with no problem. In fact, I wasn't very attracted to girls till I was sixteen.  But, after I turned eighteen and a half, I hit a wall somehow, and now I'm just as horny as any other nineteen year old.  Right now, I'd love to go back to the way I was a year ago, I would have a lot more peace of mind.  IMO, there might be something wrong with your sexual health, or maybe you're a little bit different. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mantis Posted January 12, 2009 (edited) You might not be so abnormal. I'll share some of my experience. As weird as this sounds, I never masturbated till I was about eighteen and a half (I looked at porn for like ten days when I was twelve then stopped cause I thought it was weird). I had wet dreams about every month or so, but I could remain celibate for a long period of time with no problem. In fact, I wasn't very attracted to girls till I was sixteen.  But, after I turned eighteen and a half, I hit a wall somehow, and now I'm just as horny as any other nineteen year old.  Right now, I'd love to go back to the way I was a year ago, I would have a lot more peace of mind.  IMO, there might be something wrong with your sexual health, or maybe you're a little bit different.  i'm the opposite  when i was in middle school i was literally going nuts (no pun intended) but now for the most part i don't really care.  another thing i've been looking at is hypothyroidism, which is possibly the western equivalent of the TCM kidney. some symptoms for hypothyroidism include:  * Poor muscle tone (muscle hypotonia) * Fatigue * Cold intolerance, increased sensitivity to cold * Depression * Muscle cramps and joint pain * Arthritis * Goiter * Thin, brittle fingernails * Thin, brittle hair * Paleness * Dry, itchy skin * Weight gain and water retention.[9][10][11] * Bradycardia (low heart rate: less than sixty beats per minute) * Constipation  i either currently experience or have experienced the bold ones. despite the fact i have been working out for almost a year there are people who haven't touched a weight and look fitter than me. i also found this from google  Other symptoms include sweating for no reason. This is due to the lack of energy in the body not being able to properly open and close the pores of the skin. Its okay to sweat when you're nervous or hot , but if you're sweating for no good reason, you may have a Kidney Yang deficiency. Other expressions of this Kidney deficiency is a nocturnal emission without a dream. The Kidneys are said to "secure the lower gates" which is to say, they're in charge of stuff coming out of the urethra (penis in males) and anus. So any inappropriate loss of substances through the penis, urethra or anus is considered a kidney deficiency. These losses can be urinary or fecal, so any incontinence will indicate a Kidney deficiency. This includes sperm incontinence (nocturnal emissions without a dream, or premature ejaculation) as well. The relationship of the kidneys to the bones will manifest as osteoporosis, weak knees, or chronic low back pain. Other examples of systems dominated by the Kidneys are reproductive functions so impotence or loss of libido can be a Kidney issue as well. Finally, the Kidney's relationship to the marrow of the body can give rise to dizziness and headaches that are aggravated by fatigue. Other symptoms of this syndrome include premature greying of the hair or hair loss in females.  this happens to me all the time, i think the western term for it is "swamp ass." even if i'm not hot i'll just start sweating in my groin region for no real reason. Edited January 12, 2009 by mantis Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Stigweard Posted January 12, 2009 Why don't you consider Deer Antler Velvet instead of its gonads? The velvet has many TCM properties with a special focus on Kidney disorders. Â Here is some info: Deer Antler Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
soundhunter Posted January 12, 2009 I'm a woman who went through a number of struggles to become a mother to my three children, related to those struggles I became part of a couple of support groups online for families having problems becoming and or staying pregnant, infertility both male and female etc. Anyways, a herb that is popular with TCM and easily found is Horny Goat Weed which is long known to be helpful for male libido and has helped a few women get pregnant when their husbands previously had low sperm counts. Another excellent herb that is easily found and excellent for libido is Maca though I bought some that was low quality, if you try it do some research to find a good source of it. Maca has also helped some families concieve babies where the male previously had low sperm count and low libido. These two supplements are proven to me personally, because I've seen the results in the form of baby pictures, they definitely helped the fathers become more virile and all. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Aetherous Posted January 12, 2009 The thing is: you shouldn't guess what your condition is. There are all sorts of interrelationships between the 5 organ networks, and if you treat yourself for what seems most likely to be your problem (deficient kidney), it may have the opposite effect and actually do more harm than good. Or have very little effect. Â I don't think it's so easy to mix Eastern and Western medicine. If you have hypothyroidism, it could probably be a few things in TCM...especially since your symptoms are only like half of what's on the list. Â Also, when you get a diagnosis they should check your pulse and tongue at least. That will help back up what they think it could be based on your symptoms. If it doesn't back it up, then it's something else entirely! Â So yeah, it's risky business. Go to a professional. Or at least, if you try something and you're getting bad results, stop doing it! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mantis Posted January 12, 2009 I'm a woman who went through a number of struggles to become a mother to my three children, related to those struggles I became part of a couple of support groups online for families having problems becoming and or staying pregnant, infertility both male and female etc. Anyways, a herb that is popular with TCM and easily found is Horny Goat Weed which is long known to be helpful for male libido and has helped a few women get pregnant when their husbands previously had low sperm counts. Another excellent herb that is easily found and excellent for libido is Maca though I bought some that was low quality, if you try it do some research to find a good source of it. Maca has also helped some families concieve babies where the male previously had low sperm count and low libido. These two supplements are proven to me personally, because I've seen the results in the form of baby pictures, they definitely helped the fathers become more virile and all. Â i've heard of both Maca & horny goat weed but my sperm count is fine, i just have a lower libido. i also want herbs/treatment that treat the cause, not the symptoms (as western medicine does). Â The thing is: you shouldn't guess what your condition is. There are all sorts of interrelationships between the 5 organ networks, and if you treat yourself for what seems most likely to be your problem (deficient kidney), it may have the opposite effect and actually do more harm than good. Or have very little effect. Â I don't think it's so easy to mix Eastern and Western medicine. If you have hypothyroidism, it could probably be a few things in TCM...especially since your symptoms are only like half of what's on the list. Â Also, when you get a diagnosis they should check your pulse and tongue at least. That will help back up what they think it could be based on your symptoms. If it doesn't back it up, then it's something else entirely! Â So yeah, it's risky business. Go to a professional. Or at least, if you try something and you're getting bad results, stop doing it! Â yeah i completely understand what you're saying, i'm going to try to get myself to a western doctor asap and get some blood work done to see where i stand. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sifusufi Posted January 24, 2011 Why don't you consider Deer Antler Velvet instead of its gonads? The velvet has many TCM properties with a special focus on Kidney disorders.  Here is some info: Deer Antler  I guess the Pros must have seen your post!   http://seattle.sbnat...-policy-ped-hgh  http://www.marksdail...r-Antler-Velvet  Who woulda thunk? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheSongsofDistantEarth Posted January 24, 2011 Go see a Western doctor who is experienced in hormonal replacement. DSurprisingly, this may not even be an endocrinologist! You have lots of options short of testosterone injections. Get your free and total testosterone checked, as well as estradiol. At your age, hcg injections twice weekly will raise your test levels nicely by increasing FSH and LH, and will not cause your nuts to shrink like test injections will. Chrysin is an OTC supplement that acts as an aromatase inhibitor and will prevent testosterone from being converted to estrogen. You might just start by taking 'Super Mira-Forte' available from Life Extension Foundation, even before hcg. Â Also, read 'The Four-Hour Body' regarding raising your testosterone levels. Do NOT start taking testosterone in any form at your age. Your levels actually may be normal, but make sure estradiol is not high, in which case there are other things to do. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Trunk Posted January 24, 2011 I'd go to an acupuncturist or two. It's hard to say what's actually wrong with you based on self diagnosis, and it's even harder to say what medicine could work for you. Chinese medicine is complicated! By the way...it seems obvious to me that doing more sexual practices isn't a good idea...like hanging weights, retention, etc. Good advice.  Mantis, from what you've described, you shouldn't be messing around with sexual tonics on your own. Most on the popular market are designed for quick boost of libido (yang tonics) and those would make your situation worse. I'd suggest going to a dr of oriental medicine - but going to any kind of dr would be better than taking a bunch of yang tonics. It'd only burn you out more.  - Trunk Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
torus693 Posted January 24, 2011 Homeopathic HGH by Lidell Lbs works wonders. Â Wolf Berry from Young Living Farms. These berries are the only good source and come from any area still fed by a dragon well -a very limited commodity. Â HGH and Wolf Berry are dangerous in that you empty your self out entirely if you don't know how to contain. So moderate use is best. Â Cordyceps Sinensis too and all mushrooms. Â Search recent chinese and U.S. studies On Ganoderic Acids A, H, S and Z. Ganoderma and the trees it grows on accumulate very rare metals sometime mentioned in very old text. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites