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Edit: Chad - let me know if you want me to delete this :)

 

 

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The alchemy has to literally be seen. KL by its self wont cause harm. When you 'see' the alchemy and the root and the cauldron these things start to make sense. A good question is "what is kunlun energy? knowing it's nature is knowing it won't cause harm.

 

Winpro & Others,

 

Lets take a look, so we can all see clearly what it is we're talking about. What is Kunlun energy? Lets start with the facts. Kunlun is a mountain range in china.

 

Kunlun: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kunlun

 

If we're going to ask what is Kunlun energy, we have to ask what is Wudang energy? Following up there is Pangu. Zhongnan energy? Song Shan? Tai Shan? Hua Shan? Heng Shan? or even ... Wu Tai? Emei Shan? Putuo Shan? .,.. So again what is Kunlun energy?

 

You see; there are other mountains and ranges in China as well.

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Moun...ranges_of_China

 

I'm getting tired of talking around the things that actually matter while other gurus shifus and "enlightened" mutherfuckers are "selling" forms of art.

 

There are other people on this forum who have taken the time and effort to experience and its a product of effort. (gung) If people want to know they will figure it out. It's right in front of them, and it's all around the world. Go for a walk. What you looking for is right between your legs. When you tune your instrument you can play any song you need. Be free.

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Feng_shui

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Environmental_psychology

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_geodesy

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geodetic_system

 

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Without seeing the energy nothing makes sense.

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Without seeing the alchemy nothing makes sense.

 

There is no need to clarify the name Kunlun. It gives the most accurate depiction.

for may reasons...

 

Please share, there are a lot of dead ends around here lately.

 

Someone needs to get to the point. Noe lone else is sharing it.

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prime_Meridian

 

Lead Follow or Get Out Of The Way.

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I asked a direct question that you sidesteped w/ spiritual slang.

 

What is Kunlun energy?

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kunlun

 

This might help those who are curious to learn for themselves:

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orology

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Relief_precipitation

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Isostasy

 

Another arrow please?

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umm sorry to get in the middle for a second, but whats up with the UFO here? Does this usually happen when you practice your moves? :lol:

been curious about it since it was posted :D

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Winpro,

 

KL by its self wont cause harm. When you 'see' the alchemy and the root and the cauldron these things start to make sense. A good question is "what is kunlun energy? knowing it's nature is knowing it won't cause harm.

 

Once again, I will have to disagree.

 

I think at a certain point, when you're clear enough, then the energy can do no harm...but for some people the clearing will take a lot longer than expected, and it won't be so fun. I'm not just talking emotions, which aren't much of a problem for me...but physical unhealthiness manifesting.

 

So KL by itself CAN cause a little bit of harm if you push it in practice. Once again - this should be known for people who are thinking about trying it out.

 

It was one of Gloria's complaints that Kunlun didn't have enough disclaimers and warnings.

 

I'm very glad you've had such a profound opening and can see the alchemy clearly now, and that it's great for you...but keep in mind that after the purification is over you lose sight of what's it's like during the process. In the same way someone who reaches the top of the mountain easily forgets about the long arduous journey it took to get there.

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More than one.

 

 

One:

 

 

As for RP practice, I don't really like to be a part of an experiment. Very irresponsible.

 

http://www.thetaobums.com/index.php?showto...3829&st=100

 

 

I believe I'm pretty open with everyone about my practices. RP had me go through lots of side effects while it was ok for others. Later I found out, Max added the closing part of PR in the follow up workshops. I didn't learn it in mine. It is an ongoing experiment with Max constantly adding things or removing things. It's not a bad thing. It's just the way it is.

 

 

 

Two:

 

http://www.thetaobums.com/index.php?showto...0lamb&st=40

 

 

 

Three:

 

 

I've been hanging out on Mak Tin Si's forum and have decided to try his practice. Jeremy has been doing the practice and says good things. I'll park Kunlun and discontinue active Red Phoenix. Of course, there's a question of whether or not one can really discontinue Red Phoenix... it's pumping away as I type this, but usually if I discontinue it'll eventually chill out. I have sort of felt too otherworldly with the Max practices and my business acumen has suffered, so I'm expecting a more yangy path might be more appropriate for me for the time being.

 

 

"It's just the way it is?" WTF

 

Could NUMBER 2 and NUMBER 3 have been prevented?

 

Did they get all the kinks out yet?

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Scotty and WinPro - I know it's all semantics - but you're both right in a way. The energy starts with a clearing action - anything that's in the way is cleared out - very fast... This means latent illnesses come and go, getting 'colds' or stuffy sinuses happens often - emotional problems re-surface etc...

 

Yes this does happen. For anyone considering this path - this is not something for relaxation or 'try out for a bit' - it can be but it would be selling yourself short - this path involves real development quickly which certainly does involve going through a 'process' which is often less than comfortable.

 

If you're looking for 'comfortable' - this is not it. Even the bliss is hard to stand sometimes. If you want to stay the same as you've always been - then this isn't for you.

 

We often want all these wonderful things for ourselves - no fear of death, health, creativity - but when it comes to it and we realise we actually must change, must deconstruct the ego that's been keeping us afraid of death, in a state of disease, without any creativity etc... when we come to that point where the shift is inevitable and scary - we're like "hang on a second - I never signed up for this"

 

So there you go - two warnings -

 

1) You will go through cleansing - You will have a 'process' of your own - where you face emotional, physical, mental changes - it can be both blissful and painful.

 

2) If you're striving for spiritual development you will change - most of us abhor any change - it can be frightening and difficult.

 

If you look at Ratu Bagus and his path - it involves spontaneous movement initiated by him - however it's more intense because at his retreat centre because you do the spontaneous form daily, from early morning to night - with food breaks... apparently the 'processes' of some of the people can be very intense - all kind of illnesses show up - lots of vomiting, losing a lot of weight etc... This is a cleansing process and will happen in any decent system - it just how you pace it - you can lengthen the time of the process making it slightly easier in the moment but over a longer period of time (lifetimes even) or you can have it very intense and over a couple of months (of course each person is different and will have their own 'process').

 

Anyway - if anyone has a different perspective - please share! :)

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Jadelily,

 

There is no help. You figure it out for yourself...this is why people are going to other places to find what they need. That is the truth, and if anyone tells you otherwise they're being irresponsible.

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There is a ton of information on this site though you might have to search for it.

There is less information on the Kunlun site but it is much newer and so fewer post have been made

 

It's not working.

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Jadelily,

 

There is no help. You figure it out for yourself...this is why people are going to other places to find what they need. That is the truth, and if anyone tells you otherwise they're being irresponsible.

 

 

"There is no help. You figure it out for yourself...this is why people are going to other places to find what they need. That is the truth, and if anyone tells you otherwise they're being irresponsible."

 

 

IRRESPONSIBLE

 

I have received a ton of help.

 

I am helping

 

 

I AM HELPING

 

IT NEVER HELPED YOUR 3 FRIENDS

 

YOU SATISFIED YOUR NEED TO HELP ONLY

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Winpro,

 

You are able to help others?

 

So what should I do...every time I practice K1, I start to get symptoms of sickness. Tired eyes. Nausea. My intestines are rumbling a lot, and I get a lot of bloating. I get pimples in certain areas. I will wake up feeling really sick.

 

How can I make this go away?

 

If you can solve this issue, I will believe you that you are helping people. But if not, then it'd be good to reexamine how you're helping others. It may not be effective. Ineffective help isn't helpful. ;)

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Winpro is a super guy and he has definitely helped me out. I'm glad to see that he's posting more often... really brilliant.

 

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The issues I was having with Kunlun and Red Phoenix was that I was getting too scattered and otherworldly and have been losing motivation in general.

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I used to post alot here but people get to heavy when it comes to the ego's dissolve

 

When I go to the seminar will I be taught how to get through the worst of it?

 

 

 

The issues I was having with Kunlun and Red Phoenix was that I was getting too scattered and otherworldly and have been losing motivation in general.

 

Is there no one to talk with regarding this issue to offer you real help? Have your already done that? Or it's not an option? Or you don't feel comfortable asking for experienced help? Why go to another teacher and practice? What will they be providing you that you were unable to get with MAX and Kunlun?

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