Open Letter To Stigwerd

[Mak_Tin_Si]

Maybe it's not "yuen fun" for you to understand yet. Maybe next time my friend.

[Ryan T.]

Maybe it's not "yuen fun" for you to understand yet. Maybe next time my friend.

 

More and more you seem lesser and lesser.

[Mak_Tin_Si]

Fuk Sung Mo Leung Tin Juen..

 

 

"by the way, where is Gossamer again now after all these replies? he left again???"

[mjjbecker]

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Edited August 26, 2009 by mjjbecker

[johntrevy]

The $300 something was the given "minimum" amount of donation, you can donate more if you want. The minimum is calculated to ensure the effect does work due to karma balancing. If you are going to donate or one of the donors, I would be glad to hear from you.

 

The word donation in Taoism is actually an amount of money given to the temple as a support for the temple to run and help other people.

 

We do require people to give a specific amount of donations for each service as a "minimum" amount. If they like it, they can pay more to get more effect of course. Karma balances.

 

You see this is where ive got a BIG PROBLEM with this. Using Somthing that was created by negativity, corruption and lies (money) for improving negative karma. If anything, it could make things worse.

Please just admit you are selling a product and accept donations on top of that.

 

The way you are wording this, i would NEVER come to you for healing Mak Tin Si, no matter how good you proclaim to be.

[Wayfarer64]

This saga is fast becoming an obviously questionable foray, a foible a farce ... Was it ever else?

[Argentum Corvus]

Let me just say that if Mak Tin Si can truly heal Gossamer it would be well worth it. For me it would mean not having to deal with Gossamer ever again. But I would only want this done with Gossamer's consent.

[nac]

OP: That's a horrible misunderstanding of Karma! Karma has nothing to do with what anybody "deserves". When you see a child (or any other ignorant being) poking a fork into a power socket, you stop them. You don't wait around and find out what "deserves" to happen to them. Lots of people suffer from ignorance, or live in hellish conditions. Why? Because we can't be bothered to do anything about it. "It's not what others do or not do that's my concern. It's what I do or not do that's my concern."

[Stigweard]

It is the Waning Moon, nearly Dark ... time to reflect ... nothing can or should be achieved here right now. A moment for introspection ... letting go of attachments to outcomes ... to regroup one's energy ... to breathe with the flow of the downward/inward cycle.

 

*takes deep breath ... slowly exhales*

 

Here is where we have come:

 

Gossamer came to our lovely little corner of the world laden down with the trauma he brought with him. He was obviously seeking help. He turned to Mak Tin Si for help but was taken aback at the idea of being asked to 'donate' specific amounts of money in exchange for the ceremonies on offer.

 

This is where I stepped in. My intent was three-fold:

 

1. Provide a source of healing for Gossamer

2. Give Mak Tin Si a chance to demonstrate his services

3. Dispell the turbulence that was being created

 

I put out the call for people to donate a small amount each and we all witnessed the phenomenal support that rolled in ... it was truly amazing and I want to once again express my deep admiration and gratitude for all the generous souls who gave so selflessly!

 

Go team!!!

 

Now I will take it as no coincidence that David and his wife where drawn into the circle, I see it as a perfect resonance to the pool of healing that we created. Of course this caused a mini-tornado of stress for Gossamer and I was not at all surprised to see Gossamer flee from the scene.

 

Now admittedly I was starting to feel a little frustrated and my attachments to an outcome nearly caused me to make the error of acting hastily and perhaps inappropriately. Thankfully David himself stepped in and quite correctly said that we needed Gossamer's full consent for the outcome to have integrity.

 

Now Gossamer if you are reading this, however you want to interpret things, David made a move of integrity that was for your highest good. Please my friend, see this as a sign that David wants this whole unfortunate business to be over as much as you do.

 

Now here we are in a new thread with, as I see it, a couple of major obstacles:

 

1. David and his wife are amongst us and Gossamer adamantly holds that they are here with ill-intent and that we are all being duped by them.

2. There is a general, and obviously increasing, sentiment, both from Gossamer and other folks on this board, that Mak Tin Si's view that he doesn't charge for his services and yet insists on a donation with a set minimum amount is contrary to that of an authentic healer.

 

So let us take a moment to reflect on where we have come. Try not to make declarations of who is 'right or wrong'. Let us think creatively for a solution, for a way past these obstacles, that will be of benefit to everyone.

 

Edited March 20, 2009 by Stigweard

[Yoda]

Stigweard,

 

You have the patience of a saint!!! I would have gone psychoballistic long ago!!

 

Maybe pm the donors and just go with what they say?

 

Your pal,

Yoda

[Mak_Tin_Si]

Maybe if Gossammer do not want to get healed, you can just give back the donations to the donors and rewind history, is that even better?

[gossamer]

1. First, I'm *NOT* gonna get into it with Mak Tin Si again, over "donations".

 

 

2. David says when I write about him he finds what I say by searching search engines for his name.

 

Fucking liar.

 

There is a KEYLOGGER on this computer with which he gets a print out of every word that anyone types on it!

 

And you all BELIEVE every word that he says! Are you STUPID or do you just have completely NO spiritual discernment???

 

David is a HACKER/CRACKER, and THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS that St. Vincent's Infirmary FIRED HIM FOR.

 

He SPAMS PORNOGRAPHY FOR A LIVING.

 

See, David already KNOWS ALL OF THIS, it's NOT news for HIM! Or his wife!

 

Here's Stigwerd calling David's wife "Dear"...........gee's, I really appreciate your "NEUTRALITY" Stig!

 

 

OK, I honestly appreciate everyone's HELP, and everyone trying to help ME. I really DO!

 

David and his wife are LYING, you all BELIEVE THEM.

 

Fine, have you ever gone to the 'Original Arkansas Witches' website and actually read about this guy?

 

 

 

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/The_Original...group&slk=1

 

 

 

"Silver Crow"? He's a scumbag, and has been for YEARS. Why does he hack google and take off the bad shit OTHER PEOPLE say about him?? (People who are NOT ME)

 

Because he doesn't want it read!

 

Why did he pretend to be "A Nazarene" and hack my review at Amazon.com?

 

Because he's like A MERCENARY, and will deal his hacking services out to ANYONE.......AS LONG AS THEY *HATE ME TOO*!!!

 

 

And Stig believes all of David's SHIT, and people here say "How grounded" that he and his wife are!

 

What a riot! ROTFLMAO!

 

Do something nice to help SEAN with that money. He's been long suffering through ALL OF THIS. PLEASE, help SEAN.

 

There are at least 100 road blocks to all of this, and they did NOT happen "by accident".

 

Ponder THAT, and help SEAN.

 

gossamer

 

 

 

 

 

It is the Waning Moon, nearly Dark ... time to reflect ... nothing can or should be achieved here right now. A moment for introspection ... letting go of attachments to outcomes ... to regroup one's energy ... to breathe with the flow of the downward/inward cycle.

 

*takes deep breath ... slowly exhales*

 

Here is where we have come:

 

Gossamer came to our lovely little corner of the world laden down with the trauma he brought with him. He was obviously seeking help. He turned to Mak Tin Si for help but was taken aback at the idea of being asked to 'donate' specific amounts of money in exchange for the ceremonies on offer.

 

This is where I stepped in. My intent was three-fold:

 

1. Provide a source of healing for Gossamer

2. Give Mak Tin Si a chance to demonstrate his services

3. Dispell the turbulence that was being created

 

I put out the call for people to donate a small amount each and we all witnessed the phenomenal support that rolled in ... it was truly amazing and I want to once again express my deep admiration and gratitude for all the generous souls who gave so selflessly!

 

Go team!!!

 

Now I will take it as no coincidence that David and his wife where drawn into the circle, I see it as a perfect resonance to the pool of healing that we created. Of course this caused a mini-tornado of stress for Gossamer and I was not at all surprised to see Gossamer flee from the scene.

 

Now admittedly I was starting to feel a little frustrated and my attachments to an outcome nearly caused me to make the error of acting hastily and perhaps inappropriately. Thankfully David himself stepped in and quite correctly said that we needed Gossamer's full consent for the outcome to have integrity.

 

Now Gossamer if you are reading this, however you want to interpret things, David made a move of integrity that was for your highest good. Please my friend, see this as a sign that David wants this whole unfortunate business to over as much as you do.

 

Now here we are in a new thread with, as I see it, a couple of major obstacles:

 

1. David and his wife are amongst us and Gossamer adamantly holds that they are here with ill-intent and that we are all being duped by them.

2. There is a general, and obviously increasing, sentiment, both from Gossamer and other folks on this board, that Mak Tin Si's view that he doesn't charge for his services and yet insists on a donation with a set minimum amount.

 

So let us take a moment to reflect on where we have come. Try not to make declarations of who is 'right or wrong'. Let us think creatively for a solution, for a way past these obstacles, that will be of benefit to everyone.

 

Edited March 20, 2009 by gossamer

[Mal]

[Stigweard]

Thank you for your reply Gossamer Please let me respond carefully to your post ... I have deliberately overlooked the parts that are excessively rancorous and points that, because they can neither be proved nor disproved here, are simply outside of my ability to comment on.

 

1. First, I'm *NOT* gonna get into it with Mak Tin Si again, over "donations".

That is fine ... I have fairly much considered this to be a closed avenue

 

Here's Stigwerd calling David's wife "Dear"...........gee's, I really appreciate your "NEUTRALITY" Stig!

And I have called you my dear good friend ... my neutrality is uncompromised

 

And Stig believes all of David's S..T, and people here say "How grounded" that he and his wife are!

I have dealt with you all as you are ... neither believing nor disbelieving the assertions of either side. I have valued each of your perspectives for what they are.

 

Do something nice to help SEAN with that money. He's been long suffering through ALL OF THIS. PLEASE, help SEAN.

 

There are at least 100 road blocks to all of this, and they did NOT happen "by accident".

 

Ponder THAT, and help SEAN.

 

gossamer

Are we to take this as your final decision? I had something else in mind that would fulfill my originating intent of wanting to do something to truly help you.

 

If you trust me, if you believe in my integrity then I was about to suggest that the donations stay with Sean and that I personally perform such a healing ceremony for you. I have some considerable skill and experience in such matters and I would be more than happy to help you in this way.

 

Neither Mak Tin Si, David nor his wife would be involved. It would be a sacred contract between you, me and the good spirits that guide and watch over us.

 

But the final decision is yours and yours alone. I am here, I am waiting to help you in what ever way I can. All you have to say is "Yes".

 

[gossamer]

Dear Stigwerd,

 

YES, if it's YOU, I'll go along with any kind of healing that you could perform.

 

While I think that you have believed David and his wife, to a certain extent, I also believe in your heart of hearts, that you truly want GOOD for me, and others.

 

It must be remembered that I've hated this guy for years, he's runined large portions of our lives for over SIX YEARS NOW, and he seems to have NO intention of ceasing his stalking me all over the internet.

 

Not to mention that he's cost us somewhere over $6000.00 these last six years.

 

I absolutely meant what I said about the carwreck and David.

 

I have no remorse over this, it'd be a far better world WITHOUT him.

 

That said, YES, I'll go along with YOU doing any sort of healing that you'd choose.

 

If you can deal with all of what I've said, my answer is YES.

 

Peace, gossamer

 

 

 

 

 

Thank you for your reply Gossamer Please let me respond carefully to your post ... I have deliberately overlooked the parts that are excessively rancorous and points that, because they can neither be proved nor disproved here, are simply outside of my ability to comment on.

That is fine ... I have fairly much considered this to be a closed avenue

And I have called you my dear good friend ... my neutrality is uncompromised

I have dealt with you all as you are ... neither believing nor disbelieving the assertions of either side. I have valued each of your perspectives for what they are.

Are we to take this as your final decision? I had something else in mind that would fulfill my originating intent of wanting to do something to truly help you.

 

If you trust me, if you believe in my integrity then I was about to suggest that the donations stay with Sean and that I personally perform such a healing ceremony for you. I have some considerable skill and experience in such matters and I would be more than happy to help you in this way.

 

Neither Mak Tin Si, David nor his wife would be involved. It would be a sacred contract between you, me and the good spirits that guide and watch over us.

 

But the final decision is yours and yours alone. I am here, I am waiting to help you in what ever way I can. All you have to say is "Yes".

 

[Mal]

[Stigweard]

[Stigweard]

I just realised something...

 

IT'S THE EQUINOX !!!!!

 

God I love this incredible Universe ... what perfect synchrony ...

 

Gossamer you get healing for Eostar !!!! YAY!!!

 

[riverheron]

I just realised something...

 

IT'S THE EQUINOX !!!!!

 

God I love this incredible Universe ... what perfect synchrony ...

 

Gossamer you get healing for Eostar !!!! YAY!!!

 

 

 

~ I've observed your good energies throughout this thread, stigweard ~ I'm glad it came around this way, and I'll add my heart for this healing and clearing.

 

love qi to all involved, with sacred sanity within and without.

[Stigweard]

~ I've observed your good energies throughout this thread, stigweard ~ I'm glad it came around this way, and I'll add my heart for this healing and clearing.

 

love qi to all involved, with sacred sanity within and without.

Many thanks to you my friend and the gift of your blessing

[Mak_Tin_Si]

How come we never think about - let's use the donation as a "fundings" saved up for other healings needed in the future? I mean not only have to be healed by me, but just like a "TTB Healing fund" So people who need it can register and we can open discuss to see if people can be approved for the fundings needed for any healings. Wouldn't that be better?

 

Or let's donate it to some charity like sick kids or something, I think it would be even help more people too.

 

The fundings are meant for "healing and health", so I think it would be nice to let it go back to "healings or health" areas, maybe to hospitals or and charities.

 

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One other thing - have you guys ever recieved these "papers" from the hospitals or charities asking if you want to donate money to them? There is always 3 boxes with different amount for you to check and if you want to donate more, you can write in the "other amount" field.

 

That is donations too, with set amount and an extra field saying that if you want to donate more you can do so.

 

My temple's method is just very much the same. Is that more clear now?

 

$30 - body protection FU (you now can checkmark or leave it alone, nobody force you to check it) If you want to donate more you can do so.

 

What is the difference?

[Aetherous]

I've heard great things about this charity: www.smiletrain.org

[gendao]

Edited March 20, 2009 by vortex

[YMWong]

One other thing - have you guys ever recieved these "papers" from the hospitals or charities

 

[...]

 

What is the difference?

 

The difference, apart from the fact that doing charity one is not paying for a service rendered, is that we know where the money is employed as those organizations are officially registered as such

 

http://www.cra-arc.gc.ca/E/pbg/tf/t2050/README.html

 

By the way, since u keep insisting, do you pay taxes for the 'donations' you receive and do you issue an official receipt ?

 

YM

Edited March 20, 2009 by YMWong

[TheWhiteRabbit]

Ha ha! he doesnt even have a paper certification for his linage!

 

(Course I dont either because Im not in one, but only associated with one).