fiveelementtao Posted March 27, 2009 I agree with you fiveelementtao, but I do have to say that sex is included in some of the Tantras (not only in the Vama Marga paths that you mentioned) as a means to awakening. For example the Kashmir shaivite's Vijnana Bharav Tantra. So I understand you point well that 99.999 percent of Tantra has nothing at all to do with sex (at least directly ) but within that tradition there are teachings that use sexual intercourse with a partner as part of the practice that doesn't include digging up corpses and such . I am no expert in this field, but I'm not a total beginner either, that is why I am asking the questions. Thanks for your input and clarification. Yes, you are right. I guess I am just very tired of the new agey "tantric sex" nonsense and was trying to head off the possible deluge of neo-tantric responses. I will now climb off my soapbox... Â Mike, Â In Advanced Yoga Practices (aypsite.org), which I practiced for a while, they talk about the key ingredient of tantra being brachmaya (sp?)- preservation and cultivation of sexual energy, In practice, this involves 'staying ahead' of the orgasm. It is a part of the larger practice of awakening kundalini- those who are very sexually active would be losing too much prana (at least men) and slowing down the process. For myself, I have felt a subjective difference practicing this method when I have retained for a while and when I have not- I go much deeper when I've been retaining, it seems. I wonder what your thoughts on this are? Â I agree. Although I am not familiar with the particular practice you mention, I also practice retention. My first 6 years of SSTT was celibate. practicing celibacy or retention is very helpful in SSTT. It is necessary if one wants to master it... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sahaj Posted March 27, 2009 Yes, you are right. I guess I am just very tired of the new agey "tantric sex" nonsense and was trying to head off the possible deluge of neo-tantric responses. I will now climb off my soapbox... I agree. Although I am not familiar with the particular practice you mention, I also practice retention. My first 6 years of SSTT was celibate. practicing celibacy or retention is very helpful in SSTT. It is necessary if one wants to master it... Â it was a good soapbox..hopefully you chased them away Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
minkus Posted March 27, 2009 This is an intresting article. Â http://www.meditationexpert.com/meditation...ual_tantra.html Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sahaj Posted March 27, 2009 This is an intresting article. Â http://www.meditationexpert.com/meditation...ual_tantra.html cool article thanks.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
