Everyone post some favorite quotes!

[moment]

 

Judge a person's level of advancement by, how often they are pulled into, meaningless confrontations.

[silent thunder]

The health of the tree is revealed in the quality of its fruit.  ~anon

[manitou]

don't touch your face

[Ekstasis]

"How you do anything is how you do everything."

[silent thunder]

Some folks feel the rain.

Others just get wet.

~Bob Marley

 

 

 

Some folks laugh.

Some folks cry.

 

Some folks busy themselves askin' why!? why!? why?!

~anon

[gatito]

 

“I consider myself a technician. I'm not a guru. I'm not a leader. I have no followers. I want none. I'm a technician. I'm like a mechanic.

I wish you would see me as not a spiritual leader, but rather as a transmission specialist of a sort. I'm working on the transmission of ki, of intention. I'm heir to a legacy that comes down from many generations of Japanese warriors regarding point, or presence, about being centered under fire. I'm not the repository for the entire sum of knowledge on the subject, but I have been close to some good teachers and I do know something about it.

 

- Terry Dobson -

 

[thelerner]

Liminal Luke's post showed me this excellent quote-

 

There is Truth, the truth of the Truth and there is Peace.  The truth is "the boy stole an apple", the truth of the Truth is "the boy was hungry" and Peace is "nobody stole anything, now, give the boy an apple."

 

 -Nachman of Breslov

[silent thunder]

Some time ago, I stopped seeking sanity and disovered contentment.

 

Now, I no longer suffer from insanity... i rather enjoy it.

[silent thunder]

“Is my value based only on your perception?

Or is your opinion of me not my responsibility?”

~Billie Eilish

 

[Geof Nanto]

“But anyone who can stand the animosity of his fellows without being infected by it, and is capable at the same time of examining it critically, cannot help discovering that they are possessed. It is, however, more advantageous and more to the point to subject to the most rigorous scrutiny one’s own moods and their changing influence on one’s personality. To know where the other person makes a mistake is of little value. It only becomes interesting when you know where you make the mistake, for then you can do something about it. What we can improve in others is of doubtful utility as a rule, if, indeed, it has any effect at all.”

 

(C.G.Jung CW9)
 

[moment]

 

By slowing down, we open up and out.

Edited April 15, 2020 by moment

[moment]

 

"This too shall pass"--ancient persian adage

[thelerner]

On 4/12/2020 at 4:58 PM, silent thunder said:

Some time ago, I stopped seeking sanity and discovered contentment.

 

Now, I no longer suffer from insanity... i rather enjoy it.

 

“In this world, you must be oh so smart, or oh so pleasant. Well, for years I was smart. I recommend pleasant.”
― Elwood P. Dowd

 

“I always have a wonderful time, wherever I am, whomever I'm with.”
― Buddha at the bar.   actually- Elwood P. Dowd again.

 

Edited April 14, 2020 by thelerner

[thelerner]

"Everything you've ever wanted is on the other side of fear" George Adair

[neti neti]

"The beast is loose in the streets of Bethlehem, the rats are in the corn."

 

~Mother Abigail, The Stand

[moment]

I talk about the gods, I am an atheist. But I am an artist too, and therefore a liar. Distrust everything I say. I am telling the truth.

--------- Ursula K. Le Guin

 

If you would be a real seeker after truth, it is necessary that at least once in your life you doubt, as far as possible, all things.  

-----------   Descartes
 

[silent thunder]

2 minutes ago, moment said:

I talk about the gods, I am an atheist. But I am an artist too, and therefore a liar. Distrust everything I say. I am telling the truth.

--------- Ursula K. Le Guin

 

If you would be a real seeker after truth, it is necessary that at least once in your life you doubt, as far as possible, all things.  

-----------   Descartes
 

That's a surprising quote by Descartes.  To have insight into the Great Doubt.

 

I have a real respect/despise relationship with the Cartesian paradigm.  Reality reduced to a grand clock that can be disassembled into separate constituent parts and reassembled and understood all by the mind of a man... such preposterousness and assumptive presumptuousness! and yet... still seemingly with his finger on the pulse with his insight into Great Doubt. 

 

Perhaps its true, even a broken clock Descartes can be right twice a day. 

Could it be i wonder, that his doubting led to his certainty... or away from it?

 

I wonder when in his life he wrote that...

[moment]

18 hours ago, silent thunder said:

That's a surprising quote by Descartes.  To have insight into the Great Doubt.

 

I have a real respect/despise relationship with the Cartesian paradigm.  Reality reduced to a grand clock that can be disassembled into separate constituent parts and reassembled and understood all by the mind of a man... such preposterousness and assumptive presumptuousness! and yet... still seemingly with his finger on the pulse with his insight into Great Doubt. 

 

Perhaps its true, even a broken clock Descartes can be right twice a day. 

Could it be i wonder, that his doubting led to his certainty... or away from it?

 

I wonder when in his life he wrote that...

 

While establishing the groundwork for science, Descartes was also overthrowing a system of natural philosophy that was centuries old (Aristotelian physics).

In his "meditations" Rene Descartes uses skepticism as a vehicle to motivate his reader to “discover”.

 

“Doubt is the origin of wisdom”

― Rene Descartes

 

The doubt inherent in the questioning of existence is resolved, in that one can actually "think" and formulate the ability to doubt their own being in the world.  Descartes' statement is profound because it takes nothing for granted, and seeks a structure of certainty within existence.  Descartes uses doubt as a way to find certainty.  He is saying "doubt all things and that which sustains such scrutiny can be considered real."  Descartes uses doubt to establish a dualism between that which is living and nonliving, subjects and objects, Yin and Yang, so to speak.  Doubting is part of what makes his thinking so infallible----in his own mind.  Modern thinkers often critique him because he fails to doubt his own dualism.  But, I think he uses doubt to merely substantiate a structure that he sees as impermeable to doubt.  Through this, one can use Descartes' own penchant for doubt in a larger context, one that questions anything and everything.  Cartesian logic through doubt can be applied to any condition.  

The ability to doubt the certainty of a dualistic mode of being would be a part of this.  

I might also add, that I am just trying to stir up shit on TDB, philosophically speaking that is. 

 

 

Edited April 29, 2020 by moment

[silent thunder]

1 minute ago, moment said:

 

While establishing the groundwork for science, Descartes was also overthrowing a system of natural philosophy that was centuries old (Aristotelian physics).

In his "meditations" Rene Descartes uses skepticism as a vehicle to motivate his reader to “discover”.

 

“Doubt is the origin of wisdom”

― Rene Descartes

 

The doubt inherent in the questioning of existence is resolved in that one can actually "think" and formulate the ability to doubt their own being in the world.  Descartes' statement is profound because it takes nothing for granted, and seeks a structure of certainty within existence.  Descartes uses doubt as a way to find certainty.  He is saying "doubt all things and that which sustains such scrutiny can be considered real."  Descartes uses doubt to establish a dualism between that which is living and nonliving, subjects and objects, Yin and Yang, so to speak.  Doubting is part of what makes his thinking so infallible----in his own mind.  Modern thinkers often critique him because he fails to doubt his own dualism.  But, I think he uses doubt to merely substantiate a structure that he sees as impermeable to doubt.  Through this, one can use Descartes' own penchant for doubt in a larger context, one that questions anything and everything.  Cartestian logic through doubt can be applied to any condition.  

The ability to doubt the certainty of a dualistic mode of being would be a part of this.  

I might also add, that I am just trying to stir up shit on TDB, philosophically speaking that is. 

 

 

you are so appreciated my friend!

 

doubt is perhaps the most valuable of mind's toolbox (for me).

[moment]

5 hours ago, silent thunder said:

you are so appreciated my friend!

 

doubt is perhaps the most valuable of mind's toolbox (for me).

 

I understand, I have a toolbox too!  I try to remind myself, every now and then to look more closely inside, to see if there is anything I need to throw out.

[silent thunder]

“I must not fear. Fear is the mind-killer.

Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration.

I will face my fear. I will permit it to pass over me and through me.

And when it has gone past I will turn the inner eye to see its path.

Where the fear has gone there will be nothing. Only I will remain.”

Frank Herbert

[silent thunder]

“I wish neither to possess nor to be possessed. I no longer covet ‘paradise’. More important, I no longer fear ‘hell’. The medicine for my suffering I had within me from the very beginning but I did not take it. My ailment came from within myself, but I did not observe it, until this moment. Now I see that I will never find the light unless, like the candle, I am my own fuel, consuming myself.”

 

Bruce Lee

[silent thunder]

Some of the thoughts of Marcus Aurelius have been arising in recent days.

 

Your mind will take the shape of what you frequently hold in thought, for the human spirit is colored by such impressions.

 

You always own the option of having no opinion. There is never any need to get worked up or to trouble your soul about things you can't control. These things are not asking to be judged by you. Leave them alone.

 

Waste no more time arguing about what a good man should be. Be one.

 

The universe is change; our life is what our thoughts make it.

 

How much more grievous are the consequences of anger than the causes of it.

 

The best revenge is to be unlike him who performed the injury.

 

How ridiculous and how strange to be surprised at anything which happens in life.

Edited May 3, 2020 by silent thunder

[Toni]

This one is from Epictetus, one of the best greek philosophers of history:

 

"There are things which are within our power, and there are things which are beyond our power. Within our power are opinion, aim, desire, aversion, and, in one word, whatever affairs are our own. Beyond our power are body, property, reputation, office, and, in one word, whatever are not properly our own affairs.

 

Now the things within our power are by nature free, unrestricted, unhindered; but those beyond our power are weak, dependent, restricted, alien. Remember, then, that if you attribute freedom to things by nature dependent and take what belongs to others for your own, you will be hindered, you will lament, you will be disturbed, you will find fault both with gods and men. But if you take for your own only that which is your own and view what belongs to others just as it really is, then no one will ever compel you, no one will restrict you; you will find fault with no one, you will accuse no one, you will do nothing against your will; no one will hurt you, you will not have an enemy, nor will you suffer any harm.

 

Aiming, therefore, at such great things, remember that you must not allow yourself any inclination, however slight, toward the attainment of the others; but that you must entirely quit some of them, and for the present postpone the rest. But if you would have these, and possess power and wealth likewise, you may miss the latter in seeking the former; and you will certainly fail of that by which alone happiness and freedom are procured.

 

Seek at once, therefore, to be able to say to every unpleasing semblance, “You are but a semblance and by no means the real thing.” And then examine it by those rules which you have; and first and chiefly by this: whether it concerns the things which are within our own power or those which are not; and if it concerns anything beyond our power, be prepared to say that it is nothing to you"

Edited May 7, 2020 by Toni

[silent thunder]

"Power is given only to those who are willing to lower themselves to pick it up".

Vikings.  Episode 5-19.