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[TheWhiteRabbit]

Yeah sure, ill give it a shot.

 

I learned pakua when I was a teenager and then went 'off the path'.

 

I came back to focus on Chikung around 2002 and did it religiously with the concept of ascension in mind till 2005. Around 2004 I learned the Daoist Dream meditations and such. I am not going to go into my credentials and certifications because I dont want to be seen as a teacher here.

 

Im not going into the pakua or magic stuff prior to 2002. Leave it at that.

 

2002 Left to my own devices I began to reconstruct what I remember of chikung and begin practicing on my own this time. I got the same skin crawling sensations as the first times. Et cetera.

2004 It wasnt until this year that on my own my consciousness began to shift into the emotional state and a lot of emotions began to resurface. I began to see a white mist around myself and others for starters.

2005 I met my girlfriend and from her, I naturally began to piece together the stuff I misunderstood from friends and my previous teacher, about feeling. She helped me to learn to communicate with and sense spirits, sense objects. Raise my vibrations.

2006 Went to see a sorcerer in Brazil

2007 Learned a healing technique in a Dream session from a fire spirt on a devic world.

 

That is not even including recent stuff.

To me what is talked about, alchemy, enlightenment is just learning to feel yourself or things outside your body. The smoother your energy through emotions and actions the easier it is.

Everything seems to be about a constant shift in greater awareness.

Recently Im addicted to learning "Go" I believe this game symbolically teaches us to strike a balance between life(centralized protection) and death(attack and spreading influence).

 

So rather than view it as something that can be confirmed, yes it can be. It does exist if thats what you mean. There is so many methods and ways even outside of daoism to do things. I think it is just hard for some to believe it enough to try.

 

If I was to speak in terms of how I accomplish things in this field now. I was a thinker before, proving things by facts and such and using critical thinking.

Now I feel. It is all about emotions and sensation. Turning off everything else but that for the most part is what it is all about. Critical thinking and worrying about not having enough information isnt going to help.

 

Visiting people who have higher energy vibrations has been known to jumpstart progress.

 

Also attempt visiting a vortex suggested by someone with credentials this has also know to spike ones awareness.

 

There are other ways too. Just make sure they are truely certified.

Edited April 5, 2009 by TheWhiteRabbit

[AugustLeo]

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[gendao]

did I spell it wrong again? sorry no that's right just checked it again Maybe tigle?

confirmatory expereinces are holoprojection of the thigle and neuron or blue lights.

 

Thigle establish holoprojection of all internal reality. The Thigle and blue light or spheres

are real things that can be veiwed from the microcosm and or in the macrocosm.

 

the force that unifies the crystal and the mineral is the same as KL energy

When resistance decreases (KL) -ions from the neurons are drawn into the lattice

of the thigle/tigle etc. and its grows becoming en exponential amplifier of the black light

and the thigle become real before your eyes -the crystal world.

What exactly does a tigle look like in real life? As in size, shape and color?

 

Also, are you supposed to see all these with your eyes open or closed?

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[Vajrasattva]

Okay. So far, both Darin and Winpro07 have indicated they've experienced confirmatory phenomena as a result of their inner alchemy practice.

 

Thanks!

 

 

Did you read this?

 

(Is Kundalini Negative or a SCARY experience?

 

Kundalini is only negative when you are not

1) rooted emotional mentally physically & Spiritually

2) Do not do anything to remove blockages or smooth flow of energy.

3) eat a shitty diet

4) Consume Drugs, Smoke or Drink heavily.

5) Do not do Secret Smile.

 

 

KAP as it is today is a SMOOTH ride with a lot of good vibes & Bliss. You will get there before you even realize. And the transition will be smooth. That is the plan.

 

Some may have a day or too of transition and some have a few weeks to transition.

 

For me I spent years with Just Kundalini hitting crown Chakra and also escaping out through crown chakra.

 

1st time I was 18 I was doing meditation with Mozart Music CMASS Requiem. I felt a blast of energy go up spine and I began to cry for no reason uncontrollably. After this anytime I meditated this would continue.

 

on another occasion I was doing some Tantric Kriyas and An energy shot up spine like a lightningbolt it was Gold in color it hit the crown i heard a "pop" as body convulsed and the whole body turned Gold in my 3rd eye. I fell back wards hit my head and kept convulsing. that was scary I couldn't move for a bit. It was as if the energy took over 100% and i lost all body functions.

 

On other occasions I would find myself in Lotus pose and then when I "Awoke" i was on the floor on my side with body SOLID STIFF. Strange stuff.

 

I was having a lot of sambija samadhi. I would fall into states of bliss and ecstasy that would last 24 hours or more but then I would crash and burn, It was much like a "Junkie". I didn't get why and my tantric teacher never explained what was going on. I spent a few years like this. Fits of crying out of pure bliss, body convulsing like seizures etc. Strange heats & Colds etc. Then I met Glenn he showed me to smooth it out expand, increase it, circulate it etc and to merge with the Void in a smooth way.

 

It was easy after this to do things like Phowa and actualy eject the conciousness from crown or any center at will. It felt like i was a "pellet" travelling at speeds that seemed faster than Light. I would end up in Pure consciousness as a light and then dissolve. It happened a few times and yes I WAS SCARED AS HELL : ). Wasnt sure what I was doing to my self. I had experiences where "My Heart" seed could travel at will out through crown and explore the Universe etc. Glen called it the "Happy Hunting Ground" or "the New Real estate".

 

At one point meditating with Glenn in the same room I had something that had never happened before. Energy rose from all 3 channels and circulated into on ring or "Wheel" and again the "Pop" occured high up in crown as Glenn's voice said to me "Keep" going past it all. Things went from Rainbow Color to Bright White/Gold to then pure BLACK. I saw a "Gopala" leading me into a ring of light into the Pure Black so I followed and then completely melted into this. Felt as if everything was a liquid petroleum and no matter if eyes where open or closed that is all I saw and experienced for days. Everything was THIS. Its hard to put in to words but i felt as if I "Died" or "merged" with the Void.

 

I Spent almost 2 weeks in a complete Bliss and Nirbija Samadhi.

 

I felt like whether dead or A Live I was in complete Bliss. This was sometime in 2001 or 2002.

 

After a few weeks the "BLACK" when to another "Stage" of Pure WHITE Liquid and then "GOLD" and then Merged again into Void.

 

Now a days I am in that STATE almost 24/7 . Its just always on. I am usually in meditation no matter what I am doing. Energy is always there even if my body feels "tired" and usually it charges up quick. I can still be in that state regardless of ejaculation control. Even though I control my semen naturally and or pull in the jing even if I let it out. (So I believe that is a MYTH. So did Glenn. Hoarding your SEMEN just makes you more extreme Yang). As some of you noticed in LA i hardly sleep. : ) energy is always ON.

 

My Body will "Vibrate now" and usually energy flows anywhere I will it and there is usually a lot of heat or kinetic energy. if you feel my spine or energy you will sense waves going from bottom (Feet) to top (Head above a few feet) and also from head back down on the other side a downward flow. AS ABOVE SO BELOW.

And there is always a Glow in the Aura.

 

When you root you are able to be very HERE and still be very Connected with "Self".

 

I asked Glenn who had gone through that fully like that . He said only he had & Rob Williams & I. A week Later Tao Semko had the same experience. I know James Alexander also went through this.

 

Since then Some of my students and some of Tao's & Rob's & Glenn's have gone through this type of experience aswell and they have gone through it even smoother and faster. Truth is there is NO RUSH. JUST BE.

 

So what Next?

 

I believe when you go through this you must then learn to BE FULLY HERE & PRESENT & INTEGRATE.

 

After that I felt it was time to "Teach" and "Share" and serve the EARTH, & ENERGY/ & CREATOR of all ENERGY and MANIFESTATION. Some call it TAO, GOD, ALLAH, SHAKTI, SHIVA. it is beyond NAME. And NAMES are just one frequency or "ATTRIBUTE".

 

After I went through this I Spent years Both Expanding out as far as possible UP DOWN LEFT & RIGHT and then also going deep with in as far deep as possible.

 

MACRO/MICRO consciousness.

You never stop. There is always something for you to learn. I believe there are "Degrees" to awakening. And its like MARTIAL ARTS or any ART YOU NEVER STOP. You just keep growing as the Universe Grows. You just follow the ultimate "truth".

 

Peace & I hope this helps We are all on this path regardless of "WAY" or "Religion"

 

I had many experiences with Kundalini since I was 16. I am now 32 and it doesn't stop it just is : )

Dr. Glenn Morris was a CATALYST for me and he really helped me "Get it" together and also understand how to integrate.

 

I am forever grateful to him & to Shakti/GOD.

Peace &

God Bless

 

Love,

 

Santiago Dobles)

[AugustLeo]

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[Vajrasattva]

What exactly does a tigle look like in real life? As in size, shape and color?

 

Also, are you supposed to see all these with your eyes open or closed?

 

 

Its like a "pin" drop

 

Or a droplet of semen.

 

Tiny Tiny you are to see it in Lower DT spinning and Collecting "essence" - & +

 

You can move it around and circulate it in body as if YOU are the one with in the essence it is basically YOU in your most simplest form.

 

I usually just spin it and let it absorb andthen allow it to distribute energy naturally.

 

Good techniques of thigle are in Shou YU Liang's book . it is similar to what I learned in Bon po.

 

& from Glenn Morris.

 

Glenn's terminology was like this

 

"Spin the Fucker"

 

Love

S

 

I read it Santi. And I had already counted you in:I was just waiting, until you chimed in on your own.

 

Edit: Have you experienced Allan's Blue Heaven, or the germinal vesicle?

 

Peace

 

 

Sorry I didn;t see that : ( my bad : (

 

As for the Blue Heaven....

 

Germinal Vesicle i do not know what these are i will research and then answer.

 

I have seen

 

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GATE WAY with Swastica on the right & Something like SHRI Yantra on left

 

Also I have seen 9 swasticas above each other

 

HUM bija move from Heart center out through crown dissolve in to void.

 

(That might explain the small 3 holes in a straight line i have in my skull/crown )

 

I hve also seen some VERY interesting

 

"celestial Kingdoms" as described by the sufis & Quran

 

usually they are "Stations" and are accesed through prayer & Spirals.

 

RESEARCh RUMI.

In my opinion he is a SUFI bagua master : P

 

Confirmations are tricky things. They range between being meaningless to being meaningful only to a particular practitioner.

 

Just to throw one random example at you, one time some Buddhist practitioner had a dream of cutting many many people's heads off. Wow! What a terrible dream. Surely a sign of bad karma, right? The teary-eyed practitioner goes to see his master and master tells him it's an excellent sign. It means he will enlighten many many people. See? Does this mean master is right and student is wrong? Not at all. It means experience is empty of its own essence. It's malleable. It changes based on interpretation and many other factors.

 

 

i have had this a lot. it started with my head and then many other heads

 

and then years later I was taught Chod : ). So ye sits a good sign.

 

It has to do with removal of ego

Edited April 6, 2009 by Vajrasattva

[idquest]

So it is what is called a pill in some sources and pearl in M. Chia?

 

I couldn't find any reference on that in Shou YU Liang's book. I believe you ment this one? Is it in Buddhist Qigong section?

 

Its like a "pin" drop, Or a droplet of semen...

Good techniques of thigle are in Shou YU Liang's book . it is similar to what I learned in Bon po.

& from Glenn Morris.

 

Thanks for clarification.

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[Mal]

Out of all of the thousands of Taobums members, no one else is willing to offer their own confirmatory experiences ... ?

 

Can't offer what I don't have

[Vajrasattva]

So it is what is called a pill in some sources and pearl in M. Chia?

 

I couldn't find any reference on that in Shou YU Liang's book. I believe you ment this one? Is it in Buddhist Qigong section?

Thanks for clarification.

he doesn't say thigle but the practices are there if you dig deep enough in the book : )

 

i think its in the tibetan section.

Edited April 6, 2009 by Vajrasattva

[hagar]

This is probably trivial but for me, confirmatory experiences are deeply personal, and feel that they should be passed over in general, except for guidance purposes in the teacher-student relationship. They may prove to be informative as to discern correct from wrong method or technique. But that also is dependent on what practice or lineage you are in.

 

In the past, I have talked a little about the experiences I have had, but feel that focusing on them are approaching a fetish.

 

Actually, what is passed over in silence, or neglected probably contain the deepest truths in cultivation.

If you bring someone to see a movie, they take something different home with them than you do.

 

The essential danger of focusing too heavily on confirmation, especially based on metaphorical texts from another era, cultural context and language is that the devil is in the details. You change one little speck of info, and the whole map must be re-written.

 

One thing I have learnt is that emphasizing special "experiences" made me think that I was more accomplished than I was. I have been spinning around like a chopper, jumped, crawled, dreamt wake, chanted and yelled, seen lights, fog, etc, etc, without intending to do so, and had all kinds of blissful and hellish experiences, yet they are not real, and not really important.

 

After all that, it really proves nothing.

And I still have dandruff, and on occasion, pimples.

 

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[AugustLeo]

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[AugustLeo]

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[bakeneko]

My 2 cents on the topic:

I think, every system has its own confirmatory sign based on experience.

 

A very short time ago I started with a more "western" system of inner alchemy. And I had the first confirmatory sign already. But this is more in line with hermeticism and "outer" alchemy - at least in the descriptions.

 

Still a interesting ride...

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[Taiji Bum]

seeing the blue lights occurred way before contact with Taoism -like 10 years. I was doing 4thway stuff at the

time and studying Christs precepts. At the moment the blues spheres appeared the world went grey and time stopped.

I was approached by three personages and told that this (my method) was not the way in and that "the way in is to "accept the suffering of the heart". Only this will hold the gate open. As the gate closed I was made aware that I had finally 'knocked at the gate' and was to wait a very long time. !0 years past and I found my self at the deepest level of resign from desire to become anything at all when fate found me

Ever seen the google videos of William Henry and his Stargate series? He talks about glowing blue balls being a great secret or something. I never really understood what he was talking about but I have been reading the blue ball stuff with great interest. (tehe... blue balls )

[Vajrasattva]

Ever seen the google videos of William Henry and his Stargate series? He talks about glowing blue balls being a great secret or something. I never really understood what he was talking about but I have been reading the blue ball stuff with great interest. (tehe... blue balls )

 

 

I have seen the fountains containing Blue Pearls in My wife's central channel.

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