Ya Mu Posted May 8, 2009 Everything from moral choices and destiny, quantum mechanics, space-time continuum, alternate universe, spontaneity versus logic; very Taoist if you look at it from that viewpoint. HIGHLY recommended. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mjjbecker Posted May 8, 2009 (edited) .. Edited July 6, 2009 by mjjbecker Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
三江源 Posted May 8, 2009 I cant wait to see it. But I will be sorely tried, because my loyalties to Kirk And Spock run very deep, and I am mortified that they didnt get Shatner into the film at all. My love for Kirk and Spock is enduring and true. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
宁 Posted May 8, 2009 I'm a Jean-Luc Picard guy, I can't stand Kirk, he's too coky and Spok is not so cool... a matter of taste, heh? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ya Mu Posted May 8, 2009 Won't give anything away, but the casting choices are downright uncanny. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
doc benway Posted May 8, 2009 (edited) ... and Spok is not so cool... SPOCK NOT SO COOL ?!?!?! Surely you jest! Or you're under the age of 40... Edited May 8, 2009 by xuesheng Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
宁 Posted May 8, 2009 Or you're under the age of 40... I am... It took me a really hard time to understand at least one tintsy bit why the heck do all of the old generation love Spok... and cocky Kirk. Jean Luc has style, and noblesse, and prestige... Loved Deanna Troy. And Data. Worf. Right, different taste for a different generation. Sorry if I offended your idols. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ya Mu Posted May 8, 2009 I am... It took me a really hard time to understand at least one tintsy bit why the heck do all of the old generation love Spok... and cocky Kirk. Jean Luc has style, and noblesse, and prestige... Loved Deanna Troy. And Data. Worf. Right, different taste for a different generation. Sorry if I offended your idols. I am old enough to be a trekie of the original but I also liked the "next generation" better. I believe that this movie will satisfy and IMO surpass the expectations of fans of either one. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mal Posted May 9, 2009 Kirk, he's too coky And that's why he will always be my captain But yes, a generation thing, the others were all just faint copies for me, perhaps I also like the less "pc" original. Give me Chekov, Sulu, Uhura, Scotty, McCoy, Spock and James T. any day........ Glad to hear the new movie does justice to the legend. Trek movies are a bit hit and miss Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Owledge Posted May 9, 2009 (edited) When I first read about the movie a few days ago and saw a picture of Kirk and Spock, it though: "If those young actors played their roles very authentic, that would be very unexpected and amazing. As much as I love high quality in acting roles, I hate low quality." A role I really admire due to its authenticity is the teenage Jack O'Neill from that one Stargate episode! (I could begin about dubbing now, but let's only say that German versions of U.S. films have a very different style. They somehow just don't get the whole style replicated.) Everything from moral choices and destiny, quantum mechanics, space-time continuum, alternate universe, spontaneity versus logic; very Taoist if you look at it from that viewpoint. HIGHLY recommended. You know what's also very taoist? ... Everything! Edited May 9, 2009 by Hardyg Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ya Mu Posted May 9, 2009 ... You know what's also very taoist? ... Everything! Sure, but the movie was more fun than some of the other aspects of everything. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
joeblast Posted May 10, 2009 Kirk all the way. Not that Picard was a bad captain, but the old crew was way better. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jak3b Posted May 19, 2009 Im an old trekky from way back.I loved it.This is a great forum by the way.I have been using the search all day. Thanks to everyone Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Taiji Bum Posted May 19, 2009 Casting was amazing! It was the best movie I have seen in years! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Taoist81 Posted May 20, 2009 Kirk all the way. Not that Picard was a bad captain, but the old crew was way better. After the movie, while waiting to see if there were any after credits scenes (there aren't, so don't bother waiting) a older gentleman (the only other person still in the theater) walks up and says "Don't take this the wrong way, but...F#$k Picard!" We had a laugh while talking about how good a job they did with the reworking of the OS. It is not very often that a show/movie series can span generations and bring people together in the way these shows (as corny as they may be at times) do. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Owledge Posted May 21, 2009 After the movie, while waiting to see if there were any after credits scenes (there aren't, so don't bother waiting) a older gentleman (the only other person still in the theater) walks up and says "Don't take this the wrong way, but...F#$k Picard!" I totally understand: By the way, this video is so not my musical taste, but what a creative editing style ... addictive!: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
三江源 Posted June 4, 2009 I just saw it! I went to see it on a huge screen. It was fantastic! I was quite overwhelmed when it turned out to be the old Spock in the snow cave, there to save the young Kirk... really, I was. I didnt know Leonard Nimoy was acting in the film, so it was a revelation to see him, and I love him. And the fact that he was a wise old man in a cave at that point was even better. The fire of youth, the wisdom of age. Or the wisdom of time travel, I guess... As for Uhura having no curves as a young woman - pah, I dont believe that for a second. It was nice to see Spock kissing, but that was a Quinto Spock. The Nimoy Spock wouldnt do such a thing. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
宁 Posted June 5, 2009 I've been watching some of the early episodes of Generations. My votes go to Picard. He has everything Kirk doesn't: style, wiz, authority, compassion. Picard all the way. Immaturity was never in my trends. (Not trying to spoil your party, just call 'em as I see 'em) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Martial Development Posted June 7, 2009 Everything from moral choices and destiny, quantum mechanics, space-time continuum, alternate universe, spontaneity versus logic; very Taoist if you look at it from that viewpoint. HIGHLY recommended. What is Taoist, the script? The characters? I find it hard to believe that anyone who understood and accepted the Daodejing would set out upon a transgalaxy "peacekeeping" mission, i.e. Starfleet. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ya Mu Posted June 7, 2009 What is Taoist, the script? The characters? I find it hard to believe that anyone who understood and accepted the Daodejing would set out upon a transgalaxy "peacekeeping" mission, i.e. Starfleet. As I said, it does depend on one's viewpoint. Either I really just wanted an excuse to post about the movie in a taoist forum and inserted taoist so I could do so OR I see experiential Taoist elements BIG TIME in the movie. All a matter of perspective, though, isn't it? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Martial Development Posted June 7, 2009 As I said, it does depend on one's viewpoint. Either I really just wanted an excuse to post about the movie in a taoist forum and inserted taoist so I could do so OR I see experiential Taoist elements BIG TIME in the movie. All a matter of perspective, though, isn't it? Sure it is, unless words have meanings. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ya Mu Posted June 7, 2009 Sure it is, unless words have meanings. [/quot e] I find it hard to believe that anyone who understood and accepted the Daodejing... These words are meaningless. It is the experience itself that has meaning. If you are looking for a one to one correlation with the words written above, then it may be harder to find; the correlation comes from the experiential and not from a lot of mis-translated books. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites